How many marks are left?

[Kosher Dill]

Opening this up to the floor: how many DSP fans are left who are genuinely fooled by the act?
Or to put it in wrestling terms: are there any marks or is everyone a smark just keeping up kayfabe?

It seems pretty obvious that the whales know what's up and are happy to fund Phil's gacha habit. The 50-bit bitches have all left so it doesn't matter what they think. The troll tippers obviously know the story. So... who's left? That one guy who was trying to buy a car but spent the money on DSP, I guess? Derich will probably believe anything you tell him, but he barely qualifies as a sentient being and at any rate doesn't tip.

So... is that it? Do we think there are actually any Youtube viewers from Muh Legacy who donate? Is the guy who commissions the K-pop videos sincere? What do you think?

 

[LolCowCentral]

Hate to tell you but there will always be "the silent majority"

 

[clothes in my closet]

Basically the wheelchairs. Jayde, that retard Revolt_Evolve who gave Phil 100 bucks the other night, maaaybe Jaxx. Just a small handful of literal dentheads and im not certain that they even quality as whales technically, they might just be dolphins. Everyone else knows where the money goes and they don't care.

Jaxx, Jeff, Slayer, Guitarplayer1939 are all from the OG youtube days. Slayer used to go by "Hafiz" i believe, and yeah, he's sincerely retarded.

 

[Cyber Bowling]

I think the marks have been gone for awhile now. I wouldn't say it's definitely 0 because there might be one or two tards that really do believe it and just don't donate/chat too often.

But I think most of the active donators right now are aware of Phil's grift and they all have their own various reasons for continuing to donate. None of which really have anything to do with Phil. The loosest Phil connection I'd say is trying to convince themselves they're friends with him. But nobody is doing it because they think Phil is actually in danger of not paying his bills or needing to fix his shower or whatever. I'd even go so far as to say most of them specifically know it's going into Champions.

 

[DerichLovesSSI]

It honestly doesn’t matter. As long as there’s a single whale, Phil will continue to grift. It’s 80-20 in full effect. Every single person could leave and Phil would continue on as long as he’s hitting $150 a stream

 

[Flavius Anthemius]

But I think most of the active donators right now are aware of Phil's grift and they all have their own various reasons for continuing to donate. None of which really have anything to do with Phil.

Phil pointed out recently that after the last Street Fighter stream he did that none of the people who were in chat that night were members. To be fair he's even admitted himself that not a lot of people care for his fighting game kantent as much as they used to, but you would think that out of the 300 or so members he does have (not including socks) that surely some of those members would wanna hop in a live stream and engage with one of their favourite streamers?

 

[Punished Emp]

The game never ends, only thing that changes, are the players

 

[FaXmachine]

If you mean true and honest fans, probably only people on Derich level but even then he's unemployed and tweets at porn stars all day and he can't even stuck out a full stream usually. Kinda says something doesn't it...

 

[Crippled_Retard]

I count one in this thread and that's OP you fat faggot

 

[Tsoliassssssssssssss]

ask not how many dentheads there are, but how many fat wallets.

 

[Kosher Dill]

ask not how many dentheads there are, but how many fat wallets.

Everyone already knows that the small number of whales are a permanent fixture. But what I find interesting is that Phil spends endless hours crafting lies and retcons to keep up the pignosis on maybe only one or two exceptionally naive people who don't even pay him. It's like he's putting on a private show without even realizing it.

 

[clothes in my closet]

Everyone already knows that the small number of whales are a permanent fixture. But what I find interesting is that Phil spends endless hours crafting lies and retcons to keep up the pignosis on maybe only one or two exceptionally naive people who don't even pay him. It's like he's putting on a private show without even realizing it.

I think the lies and retcons are playing double duty. I think Phil crafts these due to his narcissism and ego, but they just so happen to be a critical component of Pignosis. Like you said, at this point, Pignosis only works on handful of legitimately retarded people. If anything, these lies and retcons are more for himself than anyone else, and a couple retards happen to get caught in the autism wave. So to bring it back around the topic at hand, I guess what im trying to say is that the only true marks that are left are the literal retarded people.

 

[We Are The Witches]

There are (at least were recently) genuine fans that contributed to DSP because they genuinely liked the content, at least some of it: an example would be his reaction to the Wings video or other Fredrik content.

From some interactions I've had, they're simply out of the DSP drama. They're not disabled and do earn their money, they're just not following what's discussed here or know enough DSP lore, but are just interested in fun videos.
It doesn't help that Philip gaslights everyone and avoids talking about Champions, and when he does, it's a complete fallacy.

If this type of people (who are not whales) knew about Champions and all that it means as a result, they would probably stop contributing. They'd need to see proper evidence of it though, and probably a back-and-forth conversation to hash out DSP's arguments and how they don't make sense, otherwise you're looking at someone who has the potential of understanding but is unaware or unsure about detractors' claims, and does not willingly search for this stuff.

This is anecdotal, and I'm talking about a probably very small group of people.

 

[Wurstbrot]

For me as a normal human sandwich it seems logical that even the most sincere fan would, sooner or later, realise his big idol is a piece of shit in all aspects.

But logic doesn't drive the world. It seems more realistic to consider the Twilight Zone (mouth drooling edition) as foundation of acting. In other words, lots of people are unfathomable dumb.

Even the most unlikeable person in the world will have at least one sincere supporter. And a gaslighter like Phil will in fact have more than one, because he indoctrinates a twisted worldview in his cult. Losers, outsiders and sheltered individuals have nobody else to talk to, so they're especially likely to just agree with Phil and follow him with their customized speed of their wheelchairs.

But they aren't even important if they have no money.

 

[SupremeVictory]

Has anyone been there longer than Derich who is a legit fan? He's been there since he gave Phil credit.

 

[clothes in my closet]

Has anyone been there longer than Derich who is a legit fan? He's been there since he gave Phil credit.

Lycifer.

I assume guitarplayer1939 has also been around this long. Jaxx and Slayer also appeared around 2010, but they didn't start whaling till much later

 

[The Penultimate Warrior]

There are (at least were recently) genuine fans that contributed to DSP because they genuinely liked the content, at least some of it: an example would be his reaction to the Wings video or other Fredrik content.

From some interactions I've had, they're simply out of the DSP drama. They're not disabled and do earn their money, they're just not following what's discussed here or know enough DSP lore, but are just interested in fun videos.
It doesn't help that Philip gaslights everyone and avoids talking about Champions, and when he does, it's a complete fallacy.

If this type of people (who are not whales) knew about Champions and all that it means as a result, they would probably stop contributing. They'd need to see proper evidence of it though, and probably a back-and-forth conversation to hash out DSP's arguments and how they don't make sense, otherwise you're looking at someone who has the potential of understanding but is unaware or unsure about detractors' claims, and does not willingly search for this stuff.

This is anecdotal, and I'm talking about a probably very small group of people.

Even if they didn't believe or didn't know about Champions, you'd think any ordinary person would wonder why someone who makes so much money is constantly on the brink of financial ruin.

 

[TheTractor]

It's down to 20 retards and the whales. It's been proven he uses bots to boost his viewership ( around 150 ).

 

[Negative Toxic Loser]

It's down to 20 retards and the whales. It's been proven he uses bots to boost his viewership ( around 150 ).

How has this been proven?

 

[Poo Twister]

Before I black holed my Twitter, there was a guy that was a genuine fan. I think his name was Daniel, he looks like a burns victim. Other than Bobby wheels this was the only genuine fan I noticed. Not sure if he's still around.