How would the president shut down the internet? - And what would happen if they tried?

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We already have political talking heads trying to accuse Trump of doing so - which usually ends up meaning that the Democrats actually pull it off.

Bit how would they do it? The internet is a very redundant network with the ability to reroute around failed nodes almost instantly, and has a complex web of companies that would not cooperate with a shutdown unless forced.

Would they try to EMP the network, or send soldiers to the physical nodes to shut them down, or do something funky to redirect traffic?
 
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His caretakers would gently guide him toward the internet lever in the filthy closet at the back of the Oval Office.
 
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LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV] said:
Why would they shut down the most useful tool for social control? China would die laughin at the mere thought.
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Because they are geriatrics that don't understand the internet. I don't think they even understand how pervasive it is, as even landline phones run on it. Banking, communications, business, everything runs on the internet. Many home tv providers rely on the internet for at least one link in the chain.
 
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They can work with Google who helped censor the Chinese. That was probably a training exercise in hindsight, probably one they were told to undertake so they can do it to us.
 
You could delete ICANN but I don't think that would have an immediate effect. This would cause disruption but there's not really a way to prevent someone else making a drop-in replacement for any critical service you abolish. So by the time it would cause an actual problem someone else would have already fixed it.

Seize the tier 1 ISPs and shut down all their NOCs maybe but I don't think the President has that power. It might be possible under some obscure untested "emergency powers" legislation but would be open to legal challenge that would probably see it stayed by the courts to begin with.

Even then parts of the Internet that don't depend on these links would survive. At best it would be "severely degraded" not "shut down".
 
Betonhaus said:
Because they are geriatrics that don't understand the internet. I don't think they even understand how pervasive it is, as even landline phones run on it. Banking, communications, business, everything runs on the internet. Many home tv providers rely on the internet for at least one link in the chain.
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American boomers doing something that hurts giant megacorps? not in a million years lol.
 
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They'll somehow find a way to pull a Eren Yeager, and kill off 80% of the World's population, leaving the 20% of the World that is illiterate with using the internet.
 
This could be doable but the entire argument reeks of psychotic TDS cope. Do you remember the schizo retard that planted a bomb outside of an IXP in Nashville and blew himself up…for some reason?

Routing traffic for the internet takes place at specialized locations and there are quite a few of them dotted around. You would need to shut down traffic at these internet exchange points at critical locations (BGP can route around dead peers, which is why when that faggot CEO at Cogent wants to throw a hissy fit about a gossip forum he can just kill the connection on his own piece of the Internet and it only affects him, so he can continue choking on the girldick while we’re still sneeding peacefully).

If you took care of maybe half of the IXPs on land and all of the IXPs that connect to the underwater cable network, the rest of the system would struggle to compensate which would lead to a cascading failure.

A lot more than the HTTP side of the Internet would be affected though: SCADA systems, telecommunications, critical infrastructure type things would also be affected. Some things may get out but by and large, most people would be effectively disconnected. People would probably die from the effects of this which is why this isn’t going to happen (I hope…). It’s a nonsensical argument from a clown world journoscum outfit.

If you want a real life example, take a look at the Egyptian internet blackouts during the Arab spring. Once Egypt’s ASN allocations were blocked from announcement, the country was effectively removed from the internet.

This wouldn’t kill the entire internet, just your ability to access it. The problem is that a lot of services on the internet are provided by the US, so the rest of the world would be more affected if Trump (more likely mush-brain Biden and his handlers) hit the big red button. Egypt is less important to the Internet than the United States.
 
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LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV] said:
Why would they shut down the most useful tool for social control? China would die laughin at the mere thought.
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Because they've lost control of it. Oh sure there's always going to be people who buy the narrative and go in lock step. But the reality is the people who matter, dont buy the establishments bullshit anymore.
 
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Because they've lost control of it. Oh sure there's always going to be people who buy the narrative and go in lock step. But the reality is the people who matter, dont buy the establishments bullshit anymore.
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But they didn't. Twitter is the establishment, the o ly good outcome if it dissapears, not that it changes from one billionaire to another. Specially one with globalist technocratic goals and meaty government contracts and government subsidies for his enterprises like musk.

This just proves all it takes to get people on board with slavery and falling for the social media meme is a little PR.
 
Egypt actually shut down their Internet during the 2011 revolution. Just read about that.
 
LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV] said:
But they didn't. Twitter is the establishment, the o ly good outcome if it dissapears, not that it changes from one billionaire to another. Specially one with globalist technocratic goals and meaty government contracts and government subsidies for his enterprises like musk.

This just proves all it takes to get people on board with slavery and falling for the social media meme is a little PR.
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Im not convinced Musk is playing ball. If he's an actor he's a dam good one. Everybody else is such a snake they have to use other snakes to hide how out of touch they are. Musk has the balls to say no to them and look good.

Do I like the brain chips? No. Do I think Musk's number one goal is to get your ass to mars? Yes. He's a very hard man to read, but it seems like he actually gives a shit and thinks about the future.
 
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Michael Wade said:
Because they've lost control of it. Oh sure there's always going to be people who buy the narrative and go in lock step. But the reality is the people who matter, dont buy the establishments bullshit anymore.
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Have they lost control though? From where I'm siting, the Internet has been lobotomized to the point where only the most sqweaky-clean psyop bullshit gets promoted by the handful of social media companies that remain after they've spent the last decade+ consuming each other and whittling away the scale of the Internet for money and power. Prepare for some high-quality autism:

Now Congress is having meetings to discuss how the Internet has been weaponized in order to suppress opinions that the uniparty doesn't like. A judge in Louisiana wants to shut this down, but is overruled by the uniparty.
Reference this: Hearing on the Weaponization of the Federal Government/The Supreme Court Allows Biden To Circumvent The First Amendment, Need I Say More

Degenerate, narrow-minded mouthpieces parroting degenerate opinions on social issues are shoved in the faces of children in order to radicalize them and push them towards an agenda that keeps the cattle fighting amongst themselves while they're being silently robbed of both money and free agency. This insightful guy on twitter named @XJosh dug this up and it pretty much tells you everything you need to know about the state of education in this country, combined with being pushed a message on the Internet that tells the future generation exactly how they're supposed to behave: Public Education in America is Fucked/Is Transitioning your Child Right for You? Of Course it is! The 'Science' Says so Bigot!/If you don't Troon Out, We Won't Let You Play With Us During Recess Anymore!

So in short, they haven't lost control over it. If anything, they've solidified control over the Internet. Why would they want to shut it down? People brainwash each other and all the federal government has to do is gently push the conversation in the direction they want it to and people will blindly follow it. Facebook figured this out over a decade ago, all that was left to be done was to give this power a target and people ran wild with manipulating how people feel, think, and interact with each other. Facebook Started It All Here, Everyone Else Just Copied This Model

Humans are a social species and social media weaponizes the very innate desire to belong in social groups for survival and manages to twist us into doing terrible things to both ourselves and each other, all to fit in a social system that we think we need to belong to in order to continue living.

I have a very mild PL for you
I remember back when I was still in high school and social media was around, but only in the early stages of consolidation and fuckery. We had some assignment where we had to debate whether social media services like Facebook (which was popular at the time, Snapchat, TikTok and other shit like that weren't around yet) were beneficial or harmful to society.

The person I had to argue with wanted to railroad me with whatever bullshit utility these services provided and also that everyone uses it so you might as well get used to it. This was many..many years ago. People were pre-conditioned to accept it even back then and not consider the dangers of consolidating so much authority in the hands of maybe 100 people and the handlers that direct them.

If you want to see the consequences, well, just look around. Is life better now? We're more isolated and bitter as a society then ever before. The services may have been free, but at what cost?
 
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First you have to consider what "The Internet" means to these people. The actual internet people use and Internet the entire computer network as far different things.

Chances are when these people say "internet" they mostly mean taking out Google/Alphabet, Meta/Facebook and Amazon. For a large part of the population that is essentially "The Internet". You could block just 3 sites and they would be fully lost and as good as offline. For a lot of retards this would work. Of course, it would also cause so many problems it would be a shot in the foot for them. Normie can be quite creative if you force them to be, and chances are if WhatsApp goes down they will flip to using a different app.
 
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Do I think Musk's number one goal is to get your ass to mars? Yes.
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Space, the ultimate grift. Also a billionaire pet cause that is closely tied to government contracts and i give two shits about because it won't matter for dick for anyone not a politician or a trillionaire even if its goes according to plan and its not just a huge syphon of capital. Satellite supremacy is also important for totalitarian and globalist ideals.
 
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