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The recent events over Ukraine has intrigued me into thinking could the inverse would of happen if the cold war ended in the complete opposite outcome. That being what if western Europe fell under the influence of the Warsaw pact and America broken up into multiple countries during the late 80s or early 90s. Would in this scenario would the Soviet union puppet an independent the midwestern region to spark tensions with the east coast of the former united states? A parallel like that would be unlikely, but the thought intrigue me into thinking if there is anything we take for granted that there is a surviving United States and a dead Soviet Union. Of course a lot would need to happen in order for this change of events to work but it's interesting to speculate.
I despise leftist so of course I think this world would be terrible. However, the comment section of the video bellow intrigues me if there is anyone that could find happiness in such of a world?
The cold war has just as much impact on us today as World War I and World War II and it's always interesting to think of how things would be drastically different if the other side won.
This is an underrated alternate history scenario that I've only ever seen covered in the Red World mod for hoi4.
Here's it's starting date January 1st, 2010 world map for an idea what this world could of look like if the opposite outcome of the cold war happened.
Here's what I think would at least happen:
The Soviets won the cold war but fail to create a international order of communism or achieve autarky. Just like how America so far has failed to completely build a globohomo new world order in our world.
Marxist-Leninism and Maoism would still be the global standard ideology.
Anti-leftist sentiment in the remaining noncommunist world would skyrocket to extremes.
Religion would be persecuted but a much stronger underground religious counter culture would exist.
Islamic terrorism would be focus on trying to take down the soviet union.
Nuclear power would not have the same stigma because Chernobyl did not happen
There is no cultural hegemony in this timeline. The soviets cannot replace America as one as it wasn't one to the warsaw pact countries in our world.
The internet (if it exists) would be more primitive and more divided. Social Media would not exist.
Video games would still exist but would either be Japanese or similar to low quality knock off consoles of our timeline.
There would be less plastic based pollutants.
Much of Americas jewish population would either flee to the soviet union or Israel once America collapsed.
Europe would be unappealing to migrants and refugees (at least for a little while).
Julius Streicher's last words would come true "The Bolsheviks will hang you one day."
The conditions of America's collapse might allow a White ethno state to exist in the northwest part of the united states. But will be seen as a rouge state by the rest of the world.
Any attempts to reunify America would be met with hostility with the Soviet Union.
There would be an alternate space exploration timeline.
Eventually there would be a major rightwing pushback and a possible end to the communist international world order.
I would want to hear what do you think would happen if the soviets achieve victory in the cold war. I'm also very curious if there is anyone on here at kiwifarms that thinks things would be better if they did.
I despise leftist so of course I think this world would be terrible. However, the comment section of the video bellow intrigues me if there is anyone that could find happiness in such of a world?
The cold war has just as much impact on us today as World War I and World War II and it's always interesting to think of how things would be drastically different if the other side won.
This is an underrated alternate history scenario that I've only ever seen covered in the Red World mod for hoi4.
Here's it's starting date January 1st, 2010 world map for an idea what this world could of look like if the opposite outcome of the cold war happened.
Here's what I think would at least happen:
The Soviets won the cold war but fail to create a international order of communism or achieve autarky. Just like how America so far has failed to completely build a globohomo new world order in our world.
Marxist-Leninism and Maoism would still be the global standard ideology.
Anti-leftist sentiment in the remaining noncommunist world would skyrocket to extremes.
Religion would be persecuted but a much stronger underground religious counter culture would exist.
Islamic terrorism would be focus on trying to take down the soviet union.
Nuclear power would not have the same stigma because Chernobyl did not happen
There is no cultural hegemony in this timeline. The soviets cannot replace America as one as it wasn't one to the warsaw pact countries in our world.
The internet (if it exists) would be more primitive and more divided. Social Media would not exist.
Video games would still exist but would either be Japanese or similar to low quality knock off consoles of our timeline.
There would be less plastic based pollutants.
Much of Americas jewish population would either flee to the soviet union or Israel once America collapsed.
Europe would be unappealing to migrants and refugees (at least for a little while).
Julius Streicher's last words would come true "The Bolsheviks will hang you one day."
The conditions of America's collapse might allow a White ethno state to exist in the northwest part of the united states. But will be seen as a rouge state by the rest of the world.
Any attempts to reunify America would be met with hostility with the Soviet Union.
There would be an alternate space exploration timeline.
Eventually there would be a major rightwing pushback and a possible end to the communist international world order.
I would want to hear what do you think would happen if the soviets achieve victory in the cold war. I'm also very curious if there is anyone on here at kiwifarms that thinks things would be better if they did.
