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The National Rifle Association (NRA) now says it will support “additional regulations” on bump stocks, the device that may have allowed Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock to kill much faster, but the gun lobby wants something in return—more guns.

“The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifles to function like fully automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations,” the group said in a statement—a rare pullback that reflects public outcry in the wake of Paddock’s attack.

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But the last line of the NRA statement revealed a continued support for the group’s broader goal: fewer restrictions on gun ownership and use.

“In an increasingly dangerous world, the NRA remains focused on our mission: strengthening Americans’ Second Amendment freedom to defend themselves, their families and their communities,” said the statement, which then called on Congress to pass a bill that would force states to recognize concealed-carry permits issued by others states, even if the state itself does not issue concealed-carry permits.

Such National Right-to-Carry reciprocity, as it is known, “will allow law-abiding Americans to defend themselves and their families from acts of violence,” the NRA added.

Many states and cities have different restrictions on gun carry, some more strict and others more lax. Some states require applicants to show a specific need for a firearm, according to The Trace. Eleven states allow citizens to carry guns without a permit.

Some gun control supporters were pleased by the NRA support for regulations on bump stocks but were cautious about the mixed message.

"It’s progress. I never thought I’d see the day where the NRA supports any commonsense gun control," said Representative Adam Schiff, the Democrat from California who introduced a bill on Thursday that would allow gun violence victims to sue firearms manufacturers. "Defending the sale of these devices was a bridge too far even for the NRA."

He continued: "Nonetheless, the NRA would move one step forward by regulating bump stocks while simultaneously moving the country several steps back with an unrelated bill to undermine state concealed carry regulations."

Bump-stock sales have soared after the Sunday shooting on the Las Vegas Strip, which left 58 dead and hundreds of others injured. The device attaches to a semiautomatic rifle and allows faster fire and more accurately.

In the same statement, the NRA blamed the Obama administration for allowing the sale of bump stocks when it could have banned them. The organization doesn’t even allow the devices on its own firing range, according to Politico.

The right-wing media and President Donald Trump’s counselor Kellyanne Conway had criticized Obama earlier in the day on CNN for supposedly being lax on bump stocks.

“It was President Obama’s...Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms in 2010 that decided not to regulate this device,” said Conway, whose boss was endorsed by the National Rifle Association and has rolled back some gun regulations since taking office in January. “That should be part of the conversation and part of the facts that you put before your viewers.”

The NRA support for bump-stock regulations is a signal to Congress that it would not risk loss of support from the group if it moves forward. The NRA has donated more than $3.5 million to current members of Congress since 1998, according to The Washington Post.

http://www.newsweek.com/nra-seeking-more-guns-even-it-gives-bump-stocks-679148

NRA appears to be wanting nationwide concealed carry in exchange for bump socks.

 

[RG 448]

Makes sense, they need to get something if they’re going to give something up.

 

[escapegoat]

Aren't bump stocks jam-prone garbage anyway?

 

[Splendid]

http://www.newsweek.com/nra-seeking-more-guns-even-it-gives-bump-stocks-679148

NRA appears to be wanting nationwide concealed carry in exchange for bump socks.

This is totally fair. Make everyone go through the same fair process, make that process not unreasonably burdensome, expensive, or otherwise exclusionary, and make the licenses shall-issue, so that sheriff hatesguns in Portland or whatever can't just have them all denied, and we have a process where everyone wins. It replaces an insane patchwork of state laws that can result in heavy prison time and make exercising one's rights while just moving between states impossible with a single clear standard that we can all adhere to, and will increase public safety.

 

[TowinKarz]

Aren't bump stocks jam-prone garbage anyway?

So were most of the things the original AWB went after, like bayonet lugs and barrel shrouds.

This is pretty savvy, since were bound to get more of the same garbage we get after every mass shooting, panicky calls for bans on things that look scary and seem dastardly to someone whose never fired as much as a water pistol and gets thier gun knowledge from movies.

 

[Shugo]

An interview with Tucker Carlson and Chris Cox seems to imply that the NRA's stance is to blame the ATF for rightly ruling that Bump Fire Stocks do not convert semi-automatic firearms into fully automatic firearms. They simply facilitate the ease at which you can pull the trigger.

The NRA is trying to deflect, but Cox specifically says the ATF needs to review what was the correct decision, in my opinion. He stops short of saying that the NRA supports a law for more regulations on bump stocks, but he does say the ATF should review their own decision and regulate these stocks as parts that convert semi-automatics into automatics.

The definition around a fully automatic firearm requires that more than 1 round be fired per each trigger pull. All a bumpfire stock does is make it easier to slide your hand forward and backward quickly, pulling the trigger each time.

I really hope they mean this, because they pissed off a LOT of NRA members with this statement.

 

[Hyperion]

I prefer the current arcane system of gun laws because it's funny seeing people whine about them.

 

[The_Truth]

Aren't bump stocks jam-prone garbage anyway?

yes

You don't even need one of these things to bump fire a rifle, you just bounce in back and forth. These stocks made it easier for people who didn't want to practice.

They're fragile, ackward to hold, and while your bump firing it's very difficult to aim the gun.

Frankly only mall ninjas are into this crap, I don't have the bank to waste my 0.27 per round .223.