I am extremely upset about the David Hogg / Maher interview (Update 2) - Getta load of this guy!

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The more I think about it the more upset I get.

I guess before Hogg started talking about Democrats supposedly being too sensitive and scaring voters off I had a different perspective about people trying to reason with Trump voters and “get them to understand the Democrats are good.” I thought the idea that these people voted for Trump because of economic reasons or because the Democrats weren’t reaching out to their needs patently ridiculous. It was an annoying argument, especially made obnoxious because so many people on this site have bought into it.
No other voter in America is coddled and excused and sympathized with like the Trump voter. White privilege is deliberately voting for a sociopathic traitor to destroy America and have most people on the left explain why they are misguided and Democrats need to do better.

Listening to Hogg’s words? My perspective has changed. I now find the idea that Trump voters need Democrats to address their concerns offensive. I find the idea obscene now.

What do you think the rest of the world thinks about us doing this? We worry about how the rest of the world perceives Republicans, but how do you think the rest of the world is dealing with the fact that the American left is basically making excuses for the voters of the biggest monster in living history?

When Canada and Greenland are talking about being annexed, how do you think those people will respond to the idea that Trump voters are misguided, but good people?

How about that little American girl with cancer who was recently deported? Do you think her family is really all that interested in hearing about economic anxiety?

How about the women Donald Trump sexually assaulted? Do you think they would have sympathy for ANY American voter after they voted for him three times after hearing him admit that on-camera?

How about the Central Part Five? You think they remotely buy the idea that voters are worried about transgender kids playing sports?

The families torn apart during the first administration by separation at the border? Do you think they give a shit about the price of eggs in Wisconsin?

It’s offensive. It’s gross. It’s vulgar.

A lot of people on the left believe Trump will NOT be the end of America. I agree with that. Cautiously, but he’s been throwing his weight around, and not making the footholds necessary to destroy our Democracy yet. But after this is all over we have to look towards ways that this will never happen again.

That’s what Germany did. With the Nuremberg trials and the truth and reconciliation committees, in order to move forward at ALL, Germany needed an honest reckoning for ALL its citizens.

If we are going to come back from Trump, the last thing we should be doing is handing his supporters ready made excuses after the fact. Trump voters are adults. They are not pets. They have their own agency and are capable of making their own decisions. They deliberately chose this. They wanted this. If not the high prices on tariffs, than all of the racism and oppression.

I don’t want to have a dialogue with Trump voters to listen to their concerns. I don’t believe any of them are remotely valid. You think Black people don’t have economic anxiety? Is that the story you’re going with? And yet, how did they vote? If we actually want to go forward (assuming our country survives) accountability is essential. Not just for the criminals in Trump’s Administration and Republicans enablers in Congress. But we need a frank assessment of why so many Americans are racist, mean, stupid, and broken. And that’s something we need to voice to them out-loud instead of patting their heads and giving them a cookie.

And yeah, I’m pissed. And I’m pissed not just David Hogg is giving them cover, but plenty of people on this site are too. That’s not okay, and it’s getting pretty gross at this point.

UPDATE

I don’t put Trump in my tags. Please do not add him back.

UPDATE 2

People have been asking me to add the interview for context and I wasn’t really sure how. Does this link work?

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The Hill piece has the relevant section that made me upset.

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No other voter in America is coddled and excused and sympathized with like the Trump voter.
They were opposed by one party and betrayed by the other for half a century and yet they never gave up faith in the system and in voting. They were so not pandered to that Trump was able to come from totally outside the political world straight to the presidency just by appealing to them — they were a massive voting bloc that was ignored and spat upon by absolutely everyone else in politics. Even today they casually get called maggots by half the country. They got thrown in jail for 4 years the one and only time they protested. Dems are fucking delusional.
 
dealing with the fact that the American left is basically making excuses for the voters of the biggest monster in living history?
The rest of the world knows leftists are the biggest monsters in living history

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I don’t want to have a dialogue with Trump voters to listen to their concerns.
And thats why trump won.
I don’t believe any of them are remotely valid.
they are. Not being able to eat is a valid concern, for example
You think Black people don’t have economic anxiety?
They always have anxiety of some kind because they're idiots.

If we actually want to go forward (assuming our country survives) accountability is essential.
exactly. Thats why criminals were ousted by trump
Not just for the criminals in Trump’s Administration
There arent any
and Republicans enablers in Congress.
ah. Yes, accountability for following the constitution and excercising their constitionally permitted job
But we need a frank assessment of why so many Americans are racist, mean, stupid, and broken.
Many americans arent. Its just you and your faggot friends. Youre in the minority
 
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That’s what Germany did. With the Nuremberg trials and the truth and reconciliation committees, in order to move forward at ALL, Germany needed an honest reckoning for ALL its citizens.
Yeah, and both Worst Germany and Best Germany dialed denazification the fuck back once they realized it was a really bad idea to destroy your professional and military leadership when the world around you was ready to go total war the moment something kicked off.

Those all-caps ALLs make this sound especially obnoxious. I don't like being shouted at.
 
Took half a paragraph before I realized this was without a doubt from the Daily Kos. The aging latte-sipping millennial faggots have sounded like a broken record for the last two decades. The irony of the world changing and passing them by while they themselves become societal outliers is hilarious.
 
They were opposed by one party and betrayed by the other for half a century and yet they never gave up faith in the system and in voting. They were so not pandered to that Trump was able to come from totally outside the political world straight to the presidency just by appealing to them — they were a massive voting bloc that was ignored and spat upon by absolutely everyone else in politics. Even today they casually get called maggots by half the country. They got thrown in jail for 4 years the one and only time they protested. Dems are fucking delusional.
Years ago when I discovered the MovieBob thread, I thought he was a one in a million impotent raging loon to laugh at. Then 2016 happened and it turned out his ghoulish ilk were far more common than I could ever imagine, much to my and everyone else's dismay.
 
"We lost, we know we lost, and we have learned absolutely nothing these last eight years-here's why that's a Good Thing.™️" I'm very thankful that I don't know anyone this aggressively unlikable and miserable in person. I'd have killed such an individual by now (in Minecraft).
 
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Democrats persuasively make the case republicans suck. Republicans persuasively make the case that democrats suck. That’s where I am. Don’t tell me how much Republicans suck. Heard it already. Agree with some points disagree with others but on balance I identify as Republican now because they have democratic elections to pick candidates so I can work to change what I don’t like. The Democrats have elites pick their nominees after the primary. They have racial and gender quotas for party positions and overturn votes if the wrong person wins. They censor my viewpoints out of every forum democrats gather in. It’s not that I’m not being outreached too, I was reached and then shoved out of the party’s Overton window like Sanders supporting Joe Rogan was.

So what does OP want to do if not outreach? Violence? Just rig the next election? I’m not saying they rigged any before but it would be more preferable to beat Nazis that way than to lose to them right? So why SHOULDN’T I suspect that you already did rig? You are the party of superdelegates. You openly buy the idea of overturning election results for the greater good. You have whipped yourself up into an ends justify the means moral frenzy so why shouldn’t I suspect it? You justify race riots to yourself so why couldn’t you justify rigging?

Anybody sane and well informed looking in from overseas will come to the conclusion that you are incompetent buffoons for allowing Trump to defeat you twice. You let court cases go down against an ex-President because the prosecutors went off on fuck buddy cruises together in the middle of it. That’s how you take on Hitler? You have another prosecutor who had apparently committed the same crime she was prosecuting for. You come off as unserious and incompetent.

Don’t worry about what to tell the world about trump. Worry about yourself. Nobody trusts you to run the country or the world because you can’t even run your own fucking party without it being an embarrassing shit show.

Don’t want to outreach to the popular vote winning coalition of Trump voters? Fine, here’s what you do instead: Fuck off forever and never talk about politics again. Let somebody else do it who is smarter, more dedicated, and more likely to win.

American politics does not need Democrats. They are in a toxic co-dependent relationship with Republicans. They don’t want to upset the balance of power in which both of their elites are guaranteed about half of the power no matter what. They aren’t going to fight the civil war you want. Ever. They are rich and living in luxury already. Nancy Pelosi doesn’t want to fight a civil war, she wants the line to go up. Same with Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden and all the rest including the people overseas with economies linked to ours. You can either tell the democrats to fuck off and replace them with someone who will upset the apple cart like you want or you can take more of the same.

Please democrats, please just go fuck off already. The only reason I want your outreach at this point is so I can tell you to your face I don’t want to hear a fucking word from you. You started a war against an online frog in the middle of an important campaign and lost both the war and campaign.

You aren’t our best and brightest. We don’t need you. Fuck off and let someone else try which can’t happen as long as you maintain the duopoly with Republicans.

If your plan to defeat Trump is to have the same failures try the same failed strategies again then it’s really hard to see your presence in politics as anything besides an asset to Donald Trump.
 
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