i2p general thread - general thread about the i2p network

[a pimp named slickback]

what i think about i2p:
1 .i2p seems to have potential to be better than tor because each user is a participant to the network and not be a worthless leech with better encryption,
2. you choose how anonymous you want to be by configuring amount of hops ie choosing between speed or anonymity 3 hops is overkill but enough,
3. ability to configure outproxies to tor,yggdrasil,extensible with plugins,
4.resistance to censorship scales with amount of peers,the more people use it the more glowies, winnie the pooh,putler seethe
5. potential to have a great synergy with torrent protocol and you can do that already by going to tracker2.postman.i2p but there isnt enough torrents.

i2p clients :
i2p java https://geti2p.net : the vanilla version of i2p that consumes 100 mb of ram due to a shitty obese programming language that is java

i2p+ https://i2pplus.github.io/ : slight fork of i2p with benefits to firewalled users and other features

i2pd C++ https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd : lightweight implementation of a i2p router but run by a retarded maintainer that trusts daddy goverment and their shitcoin,your choice to trust this maintainer:

encryption approved by FSB what a fucking joke

forum posts from zzz.i2p/topics/2239

yes dear maintainer the russian goverment are idiots. war with ukraine proofs that.

ItS ReQuIrEd By Laaaaw, nigga you are just asking for your project being forked.

what i currently do to contribute to i2p:
currently i run a node from my phone using mobile operators traffic im a normie and i dont know how to open firewalls without rooting on my phone even with that i still contribute to the network even a small contribution makes a difference.

my favorite sites:
so far my favorite websties are shitpost sites likes of nahui.i2p, amogus.i2p,
and generally personal blog sites that i discover likes of files.arav.i2p
there are more gems that can be dug up.


so kiwis whatta ya think is i2p worth it? what you have aghainst it? id like to know.

 

[BirdUp]

i dont want to give my bandwidth to anyone

 

[Dread First]

Bruh I don't even know that much about I2P as a project in general, but I'm enthralled that I'm not the only autistic faggot who's curious about I2P. The Tor Project can't be the only decentralised darknet!

Also, try looking into Locutus - sister project of Freenet.

 

[PlugsPugs]

Any avenue for decentralized and censorship-proof is a good one.

That said, I've never been able to get I2P to work right on my device. It works well enough, but flakey and slow most of time, other times it's absurdly fast.

It's been some time since I've gone down the freenet rabbit hole.

 

[Dread First]

It's been some time since I've gone down the freenet rabbit hole.

I'm not sure how you feel about Louis Rossmann (especially now that he's a paid employee of FUTO). With this in mind, he conducted an interview with Ian Clarke (creator of Freenet and the Loculus projects) a couple of months back that was surprisingly insightful. Louis even asked some worthwhile questions (i.e. how does Locutus interact with existing software such as Freenet, Tor, ActivityPub, etc).

If you don't want to sit through an hour, the key points of interest with Ian Clarke's latest project boil down to two things:

a) The existing implementations of Tor, Freenet, ActivityPub, among other such projects are flawed because developers who wish to build for those platforms in mind often have to 'reinvent' many things over.

b) Locutus intends to act as 'building blocks' from which you can make larger, more complex programs in the space of whatever decentralised platform you wish to develop on. Official Github page here if you're curious.

 

[Account]

1 .i2p seems to have potential to be better than tor because each user is a participant to the network and not be a worthless leech

This sounds like i2p is massively vulnerable to Sybil attacks. Tor has rules where nodes run by the same people have to be declared to be in the same family. Tor's system doesn't help that much, but i2p doesn't do anything in particular to mitigate these types of attacks, which have successfully deanonymized Tor users before.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole 2]

I don't know anything about it but in my mind I2P is the Limewire of decentralized internets. But what do I know, for the longest time I thought Tiktok was a site where you made rap videos.

 

[DoomSayer]

1 .i2p seems to have potential to be better than tor because each user is a participant to the network and not be a worthless leech with better encryption,

I've been reading this sentence since at least 2009.

 

[bleepy]

I2P is currently suffering from a massive Sybil attack. It seems someone managed to bend the system and faked a bunch of routers with a small number of malicious nodes.

This sounds like i2p is massively vulnerable to Sybil attacks. Tor has rules where nodes run by the same people have to be declared to be in the same family. Tor's system doesn't help that much, but i2p doesn't do anything in particular to mitigate these types of attacks, which have successfully deanonymized Tor users before.

Well now it happened. Java I2P's "Sybil Scan" feature barely does anything and its other feature, the blacklist, can be easily exploited for censorship, e.g: banning all routers from Russia. Thankfully the I2P/I2Pd devs will release a new version next week with a novel exploit detector that doesn't rely on static blacklists.

zzz.i2p/topics/2239

There is absolutely no problem in supporting an alternative encryption method that isn't even the default. While it is likely that GOST R 34.10/11's seeds may be backdoored like the US's NIST P-256, I2Pd itself isn't and it won't even use the algorithms unless you explcitly set it to.

nigga you are just asking for your project being forked.

Yet there has not been a successful fork, which means people with half a brain knows it isn't a problem.

i dont want to give my bandwidth to anyone

You may choose to operate in "hidden mode". It does not route traffic for anyone, you become a filthy leech and additionally, your IP does not get published in the NetDB(think of BitTorrent peer lists)

I'm not sure how you feel about Louis Rossmann (especially now that he's a paid employee of FUTO). With this in mind, he conducted an interview with Ian Clarke (creator of Freenet and the Loculus projects) a couple of months back that was surprisingly insightful. Louis even asked some worthwhile questions (i.e. how does Locutus interact with existing software such as Freenet, Tor, ActivityPub, etc).

If you don't want to sit through an hour, the key points of interest with Ian Clarke's latest project boil down to two things:

a) The existing implementations of Tor, Freenet, ActivityPub, among other such projects are flawed because developers who wish to build for those platforms in mind often have to 'reinvent' many things over.

b) Locutus intends to act as 'building blocks' from which you can make larger, more complex programs in the space of whatever decentralised platform you wish to develop on. Official Github page here if you're curious.

>project discussion on discord, announces on twitter, relying on central big tech
DOA
On a more technical note it's based on freenet's routing scheme which is ridiculously slow to initiate so if they didn't make significant changes it won't be a pleasant experience. Also it seems to be a webapp-centric network, not a low-level overlay network where it routes individual packets like I2P/Tor/Lokinet.

I've been reading this sentence since at least 2009.

There's a consistent small userbase(mostly Russians) but recently druggie newfags have been flooding into the network after Mental Outlaw made his video on I2P and Dread planned to move to it, which is both alarming and exciting since the network is too small to withstand DNMs' traffic properly but we get more routing traffic.

 

[Jotch]

I am very interested in 'hidden' eepsites that aren't tracked by any hosts.txt sites, but are nontheless interesting/active.
i.e. only a b32 address.

Anyone have anything interesting?
No pædo shit please since I know that would count.

 

[lemongol]

Someone on Postman uploaded a Mad at the Internet Archive torrent.

From the description:
Have you ever wanted to download over 400 hours of triple distilled autism?
If so this 78GB torrent may be for you.
I have used ffmpeg to reduce the resolution to 720p and encode with libx265.

The I2PSnark GUI does not seem to appreciate this size of torrent, but it does still work.

This is a archive of [Not sure if I'm able to post links]
If you can I recommend watching it there instead of waiting weeks for this to download. However Odysee's fate is uncertain, so this is out in the meantime.

This infohash will still work for the next year at minimum even if this is taken down or looks inactive.

Also, I want this thread to appear when I search "Invisible Internet Protocol" and "Anonymous Network", so there you go.

 

[The Kommandant]

I have thought about creating my own website on the browser, but I'm too retarded for it.

 

[Jotch]

A decently reputable VPS company that accepts crypto is recently also on I2P. Courtesy of NotBob:

Spoiler: Full review from NotBob

07/07/24

Today's site is privex.i2p.

Private hosted servers? Yes please!


Overview
privex.i2p is a site that rents real servers and VPS servers and accepts crypto as payment. Though, if you want an IPv4 address than that cuts out some of your budget options. Prices start at 99 cents USD a month and go up from there. But, the cheapest option only gives you 256 megs of ram and 5 gigs of disk space.

Double that price and you can get something useful. 512m of ram is good enough to run i2pd and a webserver.






1. Appearance
This is a pro site with a layout to match.
5/5!

2. Quality
I have not used this service, so I can't comment on how good they are. But, from what I can read they offer a fine service at a good price.
5/5!

3. Nitpicks
You must enable javascript for this site to work, and you need to have a working outproxy as there are clearnet resources that must load.
3/5!

4. Refresh
This is not a site you will check often, but would be good if you need a VPS.
3/5!




It's amazing what you can do with very little ram and a small disk if you don't install a GUI.

 

[Ghost of Biden]

I2P was always a glow op by the Canadian government to set up a sting network against pedophiles and dissidents labeled as extremists. I remember there being a case where they used a vulnerability to inject malicious files in attempts to use them as prosecutorial evidence against defendants.

 

[Squishie PP]

I have thought about creating my own website on the browser, but I'm too retarded for it.

It is laughably easy compared to creating a normal website. Here is a guide I found easy to follow: https://archive.is/EajAZ

 

[P R O X Y]

I want i2p to work since I think other darknet networks are valuable. I wish they had a specific browser similar to how Tor has their own browser. Otherwise I've tried configuring i2p and I can't tell if my VPN is fucking up the connection, my browser, or what is causing the issue but I can't tell anymore why I can't connect.

The sites getting knocked offline or just being non operational make it difficult anyways to figure out whats going on. It feels like i2p is a project that is lightly maintained and isn't going to progress honestly.

 

[Squishie PP]

I want i2p to work since I think other darknet networks are valuable. I wish they had a specific browser similar to how Tor has their own browser. Otherwise I've tried configuring i2p and I can't tell if my VPN is fucking up the connection, my browser, or what is causing the issue but I can't tell anymore why I can't connect.

The sites getting knocked offline or just being non operational make it difficult anyways to figure out whats going on. It feels like i2p is a project that is lightly maintained and isn't going to progress honestly.

Yeah, that would be nice if they shipped a pre-configured browser along with it. Would make it easier for people to use, and more non-malicious nodes are always a good thing. If you ever want to try using it again, PM me and I can help you figure it out.

 

[gagabobo1997]

i2p is cool. I asked Null once if he's gonna put the farms on it and he said to make @CrunkLord420 convince him to do it.

 

[Squishie PP]

i2p is cool. I asked Null once if he's gonna put the farms on it and he said to make @CrunkLord420 convince him to do it.

I mainly use I2P for torrents, but there are also some nice little sites scattered around it. It isn't without flaws, but compared to a conventional hosting it offers a lot more resilience for free that you would normally have to pay for yourself.

 

[P R O X Y]

Yeah, that would be nice if they shipped a pre-configured browser along with it. Would make it easier for people to use, and more non-malicious nodes are always a good thing. If you ever want to try using it again, PM me and I can help you figure it out.

I managed to figure it out, I think the proxy settings in Firefox seem to work better than chromium based ones for some reason.

I can see where all this would be overwhelming for most users compared to Tor. So many configuration options and the documentation is kind of all over the place. Even setting up a Tor service more trivial compared to documentation like this:

https://geti2p.net/en/misc/i2ptunnel-services

Anyone had luck getting a service up and running? It doesn't seem impossible to keep the install to cli-only but most of the guides seem to discuss setting it up on the same machine you are browsing from. Any documentation would be helpful. I make the general assumption origin service discovery is mostly the same as an onion site?

Any recommended torrent sites would be helpful.