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Discuss. I suppose Schopenhauer would have a thread as well.
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He (and Schopenhauer) were famous for their wealth alone.Wittgenstein, OTOH, was a closeted homosexual who used to ride motorcycles and get wasted in dive bars. He would not have an incentive to write books, he would have been famous just for being himself.
We tend to give special treatment to sexual degenerates and serial womanizers, so Wittgenstein, Nietzsche, Augustine and Marx fit the bill, while Engels, Kant and Spinoza might not.I'm fairly certain every philosopher would have a thread.
Nietzsche was a professor of Philology and the son of a Preacher. Not that many cows run in academic / religious circles. At least, not ones we track.
His first book, the Birth of Tragedy, would have come across as a justification for the deviancy we see in society today. I imagine it would have been popular in certain circles, but no one would take it that seriously.
I figure he would have gotten a couple news articles then be overshadowed by some YouTuber. He could not reach the level of cultural influence he had in an age of mass media.
Wittgenstein, OTOH, was a closeted homosexual who used to ride motorcycles and get wasted in dive bars. He would not have an incentive to write books, he would have been famous just for being himself.
He was famously shy.This.
Nietzsche was a star from the outset. A genius in his academic field and the youngest professor of it ever. This sort of person was a minor celebrity in their day long before he began writing his heavy hitters.
Today? This sort of person wouldn't enjoy anything like the recognition or response Nietzche got in his day. He really was a figure operating at just the right time in history, when European thinkers were just starting to become dimly aware of his so called Shadow of God. He was the first to grapple with some of these concepts and their consequences, it's well trodden ground at this point.
Nietzche today would either be an unknown, though talented and successful, academic or Sargon of Akkad. Or possibly even both.
"Marxism is like...big government bro..."I can’t see Nietzsche getting a thread, but Karl Marx would definitely have one. Karl Marx was a NEET that mooched off of his rich friends all while complaining about the evils of capitalism Instead of sensible solutions to abuses workers had to face, such as time off, minimum wage and worker’s compensation, Marx thought the best solution was to make people even more reliant on the government through communism (which usually meant people becoming worse off than they were before, seeing as how many places that have tried communism, but failed to make it sustainable). Nietzsche may have had some odd ideas here and there, but he wasn’t full blown exceptional like Marx was.
Nobody cares what Marxism "really" is because at the end of the day, it's the punchline to one of the biggest jokes in human history."Marxism is like...big government bro..."
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I can tell when someone who claims to be a fan of Nietzsche hasn't actually read Nietzsche if they think he espoused atheism, or was in favour of nihilism. TJ Kirk is an example of this. Anyone who's a fan of Nietzsche would surely agree with things Nietzsche said, and given a huge swath of Nietzsche's entire opus was "nihilism is bad and will destroy humanity," it's not logically possible to be a nihilist and a fan of Nietzsche.Yes, he would. Most of what he wrote would be considered exceptional material if written today. Then factor in people misunderstanding his attacks on atheism which always get ignored due to his attacks on Christianity, mix in depression, meds, and the whole uber/untermensch. There are already lolcow threads that match this description.
I happen to be a fan of Nietzsche but it's due to me disagreeing with him on some of his methodology. He raises some really good, and pertinent questions. And unlike most, he actually takes the the logic of what he talks about to its conclusion.I can tell when someone who claims to be a fan of Nietzsche hasn't actually read Nietzsche if they think he espoused atheism, or was in favour of nihilism. TJ Kirk is an example of this. Anyone who's a fan of Nietzsche would surely agree with things Nietzsche said, and given a huge swath of Nietzsche's entire opus was "nihilism is bad and will destroy humanity," it's not logically possible to be a nihilist and a fan of Nietzsche.
"We have invented happiness." They blinked.I happen to be a fan of Nietzsche but it's due to me disagreeing with him on some of his methodology. He raises some really good, and pertinent questions. And unlike most, he actually takes the the logic of what he talks about to its conclusion.
"God is dead" was not a battle cry. It's the beginning of his lamentations.