Is AI causing a new industrial revolution or a bot stagnation?

[Lemmingwiser]

I've been thinking about the role AI is going to play in the coming years.

It seems evident that it'll likely make a lot of human endeavor obsolete, much like the industrial revolution did, where you go from 75% of people farming to 5%. It seems we'll go from having lots of white collar jobs to only a few.

On the other hand, if you look at bots demolishing anonymous message boards and people noticing before it had been proven, you get the same thing as you had happen in the chess world: bots show what is the near perfect path of executing, and even the humans end up trying to be like bots to get there.

AI's are trained on existing knowledge and do not innovate on it. So everything is derivative. Couple that with how much AIs are being gimped like chatgpt being unable to write any story where someone behaves unethically, you get this corporate art blandness that is very antithetical to human experience. It seems like maybe it could be a deep source of stagnation as more and more different humams are replaced by same and same bots.a

1. Is the AI revolution overhyped?
2. Will it displace significant people?
3. Will it usher in a vast array of new possibilities?
4. What damage will it do if it does?

 

[Chilson]

1. Is the AI revolution overhyped?
Yes, always has been.

2. Will it displace significant people?
Only the arts and data entry will likely be truly affected. Anything truly manual (blue collar) or requiring greater cognitive effort in the white collar world will pretty much be fine. These two fields are pretty small relative to the job market and don't hold much actual value to society at large.

A lot of people mistakenly think new technology will replace people, but in reality it just gives people another tool to use. Computers did little to replace workers, it just gave them another tool to learn and hopefully become more efficient. Did it lower the number of people that could do a job? Sure, but it also created entirely new industries for people working specifically with computers. AI is a little bit more tricky on what jobs it will create and we will have to wait and see.

TLDR: It will displace some people, but I doubt in significant numbers or general importance.

3. Will it usher in a vast array of new possibilities?
Probably not. AI isn't really that intelligent and can't handle much complexity. It will certainly help make things progress faster as a useful tool to generate code and parse better answers to simple questions. But I suspect it will not truly create many new possibilities for most people, just make current workers more efficient.

4. What damage will it do if it does?
Same old, same old. Police state shit, tracking people through camera's, accessing information it shouldn't be able to access. Honestly, its dystopian as fuck, but that is where we are headed unfortunately. AI is unfortunately really good at that stuff.

This is all assuming an AI doesn't somehow achieve sentience. A theory I have always had doubts about due to the biological make up of the brain being very different from code and physical computer parts. Because if that happens, fuck if I know what will happen.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

The only thing I have to say about AI is that one of the surprises we've run into is that it turns out many high-skill, high-education jobs - lawyer, doctor, accountant, etc. - are under more threat from automation than many low-skill, no-education jobs (orange picker). It turns out that a huge chunk of those jobs is just empty paperwork that a bot can easily do, so while a human is ultimately necessary, a human with a bot can serve way more customers and so put many people out of work. On the other hand, robots often struggle mightily at anything that involves practical physical problem solving that isn't just screwing the same part in over and over on an assembly line.

 

[Synthetic Smug]

It will affect cognitive reach in the same way radar affected gun laying.

 

[Maurice Maine]

1. Is the AI revolution overhyped?
Yes, always has been.

2. Will it displace significant people?
Only the arts and data entry will likely be truly affected. Anything truly manual (blue collar) or requiring greater cognitive effort in the white collar world will pretty much be fine. These two fields are pretty small relative to the job market and don't hold much actual value to society at large.

A lot of people mistakenly think new technology will replace people, but in reality it just gives people another tool to use. Computers did little to replace workers, it just gave them another tool to learn and hopefully become more efficient. Did it lower the number of people that could do a job? Sure, but it also created entirely new industries for people working specifically with computers. AI is a little bit more tricky on what jobs it will create and we will have to wait and see.

TLDR: It will displace some people, but I doubt in significant numbers or general importance.

3. Will it usher in a vast array of new possibilities?
Probably not. AI isn't really that intelligent and can't handle much complexity. It will certainly help make things progress faster as a useful tool to generate code and parse better answers to simple questions. But I suspect it will not truly create many new possibilities for most people, just make current workers more efficient.

Quite curious. Two years ago nobody would have predicted AI would take over the arts so quickly. No, it was believed it would only do dull, unimaginative work. Yet in a single year that notion was quickly shattered. We have NO idea what's going to happen... but it's gonna be real big.

 

[Meth Kennedy]

A lot of people don't like to admit this but AI-made anything is obvious if you aren't a retard and I don't think it will replace anything.

 

[The Luigi Player]

the bots, they are coming

we must prep for the bots by acting more retarded to their ai tactics

 

[Desu Mountain]

A lot of people don't like to admit this but AI-made anything is obvious if you aren't a retard and I don't think it will replace anything.

You haven't been paying attention and have only looked at the AI equivalent of people's stick figures. The good shit looks really, really good.

 

[Irredemable Retardation]

You haven't been paying attention and have only looked at the AI equivalent of people's stick figures. The good shit looks really, really good.

I paid attention, and honestly even the best AI art still has the noticeable slop "flavor" It's only useful for replacing furry porn "artists"
Seeing how the models to create AI art work made me even more skeptical.

 

[Whatevermancer]

1. Is the AI revolution overhyped?

Absolutely not, this time it's different. For the last decade machine learning has been making great strides and even the average Joe got to enjoy those new developments(better OCR, better translation, AI art, etc.)

2. Will it displace significant people?

Yes. White collar jobs will be easy to replace cause most of them don't involve robotics and all the data is on the computer, so it'll be easy to compile into a dataset for training. Then the newly unemployed will invade the blue collar jobs and cause the wages to fall, and even later they will face competition from robots.

3. Will it usher in a vast array of new possibilities?

Some think that it will allow people to "unlock their creativity", but I think they'll have more important things to worry about when AI displaces them.

4. What damage will it do if it does?

Millions of people will see their quality of life reduced due to no fault of their own.

 

[skykiii]

So when are the robot waifus coming?

 

[Lemmingwiser]

So when are the robot waifus coming?

The first batch was already made, but the people who made it stopped showing up for work so it'll take a decade until a new batch of engineers are ready to make the second batch.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

I think if it got real fucking bad, we'd actually figure out a way to regulate them to prevent them from being abused by bad actors, or worse, or gaining enough sapience to screw humanity over.

Making an AI that's smart enough to think for itself would probably be frowned upon, and possibly made illegal preemptively.