Is Null becoming NRx?

[Shoggoth]

First time I heard Null mention the Cathedral was in last stream.
He's also waking up to the problem with libertarians being the handmaidens of the left, and has seen the god shaped hole in our souls.
Next thing we know he'll be wearing an old leather jacket with cat-piss on it and advocating the restoration of the Stuarts.
Hope the answer is yes

 

[WeWuzFinns]

Libertarian pantheon consists of the god of child porn. The god of hedonism. The god of democracy. The god of equality. The god of the path of least resistance.

The societal pressures have herded libertarians to walk the path of degeneracy, because any other path will result to getting bullied. Their compliance stems from their inherit weakness. Their piousness to serve the god of equality renders them blind.

 

[Dustlord]

He strikes me as someone that genuinely cared about "libertarian values" like freedom of speech that became bitter after seeing how fickle these so-called "natural rights" are.

 

[Shoggoth]

Libertarian pantheon consists of the god of child porn. The god of hedonism. The god of democracy. The god of equality. The god of the path of least resistance.
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The societal pressures have herded libertarians to walk the path of degeneracy, because any other path will result to getting bullied. Their compliance stems from their inherit weakness. Their piousness to serve the god of equality renders them blind.

You might like this three part series. Most libertarian arguments are just leftist arguments in disguise, or a useful vehicle for them.

He strikes me as someone that genuinely cared about "libertarian values" like freedom of speech that became bitter after seeing how fickle these so-called "natural rights" are.

Sucks to have principles. Some are libertarian because of a principled position, some because of cummies. Null is the former while Lilith is the latter.
He needs some Hoppe to cure him of "we can all live together". If you want a libertarian social order you have to remove degenerates.

 

[MrAnnoyingDude]

The societal pressures have herded libertarians to walk the path of degeneracy

 

[DumbDude42]

If you want a libertarian social order you have to remove degenerates.

this is true, but removal and exclusion of undesirables is anathema to the 'live and let live' ideology that makes up the bulk of current year libertarianism

 

[Shoggoth]

this is true, but removal and exclusion of undesirables is anathema to the 'live and let live' ideology that makes up the bulk of current year libertarianism

What if they only adopted this ideology as a fig leaf to cover their degeneracy to begin with?

 

[DumbDude42]

What if they only adopted this ideology as a fig leaf to cover their degeneracy to begin with?

yeah a lot of libertarians seem to be just liberals who dislike paying taxes

 

[User names must be unique]

yeah a lot of libertarians seem to be just liberals who dislike paying taxes

Or conservatives who like weed.

 

[WeWuzFinns]

Lolberts don't even understand what they want. NAP isn't natural behavior for humans. True morality is a judgement of what you can get away with, and the world runs on this principle. Some dusty philosopher telling that Kim Yong Un is in the wrong for killing his enemies isn't accurately describing reality. If being ruthless helps him to spread his genes, and isn't too big risk, he is right. If being "moral" leads to the death of his genes, he is wrong.

During anarchy no one would come to the defense of pedophiles. Pedophile killers wouldn't be persecuted, and people would just give them free beer. No one would judge an upstanding member of community for taking out the trash. Lolberts are creatures of modern decadence.

 

[Xarpho]

this is true, but removal and exclusion of undesirables is anathema to the 'live and let live' ideology that makes up the bulk of current year libertarianism

The problem is that libertarians have sold out to the left-wing establishment. I seem to recall Gary Johnson speaking out against the ultimate resolution of the "gay cakes" case, whereas a libertarian that is P.C. but not woke should have concurred that "gay marriage is okay but the religious owners had every right to refuse service", because the argument for gay marriage relates to the government not taking part in marriage at all.

Questioning why they're kowtowing to the left every time is a lot more effective argument than just going go for the ol' "muh roads" meme.

 

[Thomas Paine]

Idk where y'all are getting that the left is associated with libertarians. The left has always hated us with a burning passion.

Talking on the subject of Libertarianism through the shallow lenses of current-year meme culture is retarded. The left and right politifags have spun this tale that we waste votes, we hate gays, we're the reason "X candidate won". It's like asking who farted and someone points at the dog.

All a blue collar libertaretard like me wants is academic/workplace meritocracy, quit taxing me for shit you don't need, and for America to quit policing the world. Of course it goes without saying constitutional rights are the greatest focal point, but it's so hard to fight to voice your opinion on those because the left will call you a wignat 3%er and the right will say you just wanna smoke pot and watch CP.

Washington was right in the end, partisan politics have and will be the death of this republic.

 

[legtard respecter]

nick land (the father of NRx or something) was an order of the nine angles satanist, and those guys were known for being mi5/6 spooks

 

[DumbDude42]

Idk where y'all are getting that the left is associated with libertarians

they're not, they don't give a rats ass about libertarians. it's libertarians themselves who grovel and capitulate to the left at every opportunity, most likely because muh optics

 

[Angry Shoes]

Does NRx stand for 'nigga retarded (extreme)'? If so, yes.

 

[Telecom]

Null is not becoming NRx more that NRx ideas are finally becoming diffused across the culture. Some guy dropped it on Fox news a few weeks ago before Jawsh even used it.

It took about 10 years for NRx terminology to diffuse across the Internet. Then it takes 5 or 6 years for those ideas to enter the mainstream. A lot of NRx stuff but not all started up a few years after the current gender and race ideology sprang up on the fringes of livejournal. Josh and Daddy Jim are good secondary weather vanes for this stuff. I can tell when something is about to break out when they start using it. "Clown world" was the first time I noticed. Jim started spamming it four years after people on rightwing twitter stopped using it regularly. The next thing everyone edgy on twitter is posting a honkler like they're a comedic genius. I wonder when "Amerikwa" will catch on again.

I also think NRx is a bit too inert for Null. Josh is a lot more proactive than Yarvin's "lol. just wait until the breakdown". Moldbug's terminology is useful but he is boring as an ideologue. The only other thing I can imagine attracting Josh is a concept like the patchwork because of that one time he asked why Florida couldn't be a monarchy. He isn't going to start talking about neocameralism or shilling out kiwibuxs for a first edition fanged noumena.

 

[Shoggoth]

Idk where y'all are getting that the left is associated with libertarians. The left has always hated us with a burning passion.

Talking on the subject of Libertarianism through the shallow lenses of current-year meme culture is retarded. The left and right politifags have spun this tale that we waste votes, we hate gays, we're the reason "X candidate won". It's like asking who farted and someone points at the dog.

All a blue collar libertaretard like me wants is academic/workplace meritocracy, quit taxing me for shit you don't need, and for America to quit policing the world. Of course it goes without saying constitutional rights are the greatest focal point, but it's so hard to fight to voice your opinion on those because the left will call you a wignat 3%er and the right will say you just wanna smoke pot and watch CP.

Washington was right in the end, partisan politics have and will be the death of this republic.

If you don't mind, watch the video I linked previously. TL;DR is Libertarian's aims and values are indistinguishible from the left's. Maybe that's why they always lose?

nick land (the father of NRx or something) was an order of the nine angles satanist, and those guys were known for being mi5/6 spooks

Nick Land is the uncle doing meth in China.

they're not, they don't give a rats ass about libertarians. it's libertarians themselves who grovel and capitulate to the left at every opportunity, most likely because muh optics

Oh they do

Does NRx stand for 'nigga retarded (extreme)'? If so, yes.

Absolutely.

Null is not becoming NRx more that NRx ideas are finally becoming diffused across the culture. Some guy dropped it on Fox news a few weeks ago before Jawsh even used it.

It took about 10 years for NRx terminology to diffuse across the Internet. Then it takes 5 or 6 years for those ideas to enter the mainstream. A lot of NRx stuff but not all started up a few years after the current gender and race ideology sprang up on the fringes of livejournal. Josh and Daddy Jim are good secondary weather vanes for this stuff. I can tell when something is about to break out when they start using it. "Clown world" was the first time I noticed. Jim started spamming it four years after people on rightwing twitter stopped using it regularly. The next thing everyone edgy on twitter is posting a honkler like they're a comedic genius. I wonder when "Amerikwa" will catch on again.

I also think NRx is a bit too inert for Null. Josh is a lot more proactive than Yarvin's "lol. just wait until the breakdown". Moldbug's terminology is useful but he is boring as an ideologue. The only other thing I can imagine attracting Josh is a concept like the patchwork because of that one time he asked why Florida couldn't be a monarchy. He isn't going to start talking about neocameralism or shilling out kiwibuxs for a first edition fanged noumena.

Hearing the cathedral mentioned on Fox made me feel uncomfortable in several places.
In a sense, I think n00l would be a lot calmer if he didn't think the US could be saved. If he thought that it was the great devil, a communist nation which should fall so freedom would prevail and that parallel construction was the way to go I think he'd chill.

 

[:gold:]

Bunch of Jews talking shit about beautiful works of art like cathedrals.
Why not the mosque and the bazaar? Or the synagogue and the bazaar?

 

[Jewthulhu]

He strikes me as someone that genuinely cared about "libertarian values" like freedom of speech that became bitter after seeing how fickle these so-called "natural rights" are.

Wasn't a lot of Nrx, at least initially, made up of disillusioned libertarians?

TBH though, Yarvin and neoreaction seems to be both somewhat obscure and fairly polarizing. The terminology tends to get around (like "redpilled" or "the cathedral"), but people don't typically know where it originated from. Those who have heard of it tend to either be all-in on NRX thought or absolutely hate it. I'm typically skeptical of speculating whether anyone is "nrx" for that reason.

 

[Shoggoth]

Bunch of Jews talking shit about beautiful works of art like cathedrals.
Why not the mosque and the bazaar? Or the synagogue and the bazaar?

Because it needs cultural relevance. The whole point in the term, in its un-bastardized form, is the Cathedral is only the concensus making apparatus. It is where the elite worship and rub elbows. Truths emanating from it are ex-cathedra. Don't read too much into it. There's also The Factory, The Fortress, and some other parts.

Wasn't a lot of Nrx, at least initially, made up of disillusioned libertarians?

TBH though, Yarvin and neoreaction seems to be both somewhat obscure and fairly polarizing. The terminology tends to get around (like "redpilled" or "the cathedral"), but people don't typically know where it originated from. Those who have heard of it tend to either be all-in on NRX thought or absolutely hate it. I'm typically skeptical of speculating whether anyone is "nrx" for that reason.

Yarvin himself "was a libertarian until Hoppe cured him of that"
The funny thing with neo reaction is it isn't any positive or prescriptive philosophy. It's just an analysis tool. In a lot of ways it's just reheated post structuralism and italian elite theory. Whatever you do with it is up to you.