Before you label me as a Chud, let me explain my perspective. Historically, identifying signs of societal collapse is challenging due to various sociological and psychological factors. Perhaps we will merely be a brief chapter in the broader narrative of humanity. From a future standpoint, our society might be viewed as analogous to the medieval dark ages, especially given the potential lack of advanced technology and cultural understanding. For instance, ancient Romans had a relatively accepting view of homosexuality, in stark contrast to the negative perceptions held by Christian Western societies until the early 2000s. As Hegel wisely noted, "We learn from history, yet we fail to learn from history." So what will be our ultimate fate, and when might our society crumble after a few centuries? In the words of T.S. Eliot, "Everything ends with a bang or a whimper."
At this point it would be really impressive if anyone knows what's going to be going on in 10 years let alone a few centuries.
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Historically, identifying signs of societal collapse is challenging due to various sociological and psychological factors. Perhaps we will merely be a brief chapter in the broader narrative of humanity.
"Our modern society with enlightenment and technology so advanced people in the past would think is magic is ackshually just like the medieval dark ages, because someone 5 million years from now will think we are not advanced at all, for example, the Romans thought that fucking other men ass was hecking based and chunguspilled, now it's seen as a bad thing thanks to retrograde Christianity (because only Christians think that fucking other men in the ass is bad and this is a measure of civilizational progress)."
They did not. The thing is that the (some) roman elites were homosexuals and used their power and influence to influence how their faggotry was precieved by the public. There's a good video about this
As Hegel wisely noted, "We learn from history, yet we fail to learn from history." So what will be our ultimate fate, and when might our society crumble after a few centuries? In the words of T.S. Eliot, "Everything ends with a bang or a whimper."
I guess the ability to land a probe on Mars and put a computer in your hand that also makes phone calls isn't advanced technology. The west isn't falling that badly yet. We aren't in diesel punk 1940s tech regression.
The Roman Empire fell when it was Christian, which led to many historians like Gibbon making the equally fallacious argument that this made them too soft. History isn't a moral lesson. Don't be too fatalistic about our current society or you'll just become part of a self-fulfilling prophesy. After all, the Eastern Romans lasted another thousand years after Rome itself fell.
Our civilization is not nearing a decline; it is in its most rapid growth and development in recorded history. But turmoil goes hand in hand with the greatest leaps; so don’t confuse turmoil with collapse.
Why did Rome and Ancient Egypt fall? No one challenge or even convergence of challenges. The real question is, why was this empire eventually unable to weather problems that it previously overcame?
I believe it's endemic to any government being so long lasting and so huge. Bureaucracy, inefficiency, inflexibility, and too many short-sighted decisions. We humans are doomed to repeat this process, we can't consistently sacrifice short term gains for long term stability. There's too many self interested, greedy, foolish, or outright sociopathic people out there drawn to positions of power.
Any solution you can think of to keep these people in check relies on trusting someone else with power. America's success is a testament to its ability to keep these factors in check for a long time, but it won't be permanent. No empire is eternal.
Sometimes, it's really that simple, I hate redditors trying to sugarcoat shit with kosher politics and walls of text.
This is my "go to" explaination for why big empires fall, despite them being very "powerful".
I think it's in a similar manner what we are seeing today. You got a system, it was designed for a certain "minimum bar" of intelligence/common sense to make people accept and to work with it. Then it expands into geographical areas that had demographic groups that was below this "minimum bar", so you go first from diminishing returns (still rolling) for this to later become a net negative for the whole system (then it's too late... collapse is imminent).
This is the problem with the concept of "globalism", you try to have one system for all kinds of different people. It's imposible (and always will be) to combine Europeans, Asians and African negroids (and their respective mutts) into one united system (unless you got built in segregation). You can make it work within a continent, Europe and Asia is proof of that. But as soon you go intercontinental, you will have a problem. A system is only as stable and coherent as its people.
A lot of people (especially Marxist) will say something a long the line of: "Well, just start a system that does have EVERYONE in mind, make the minimum bar extremly low so it doesn't crack".
To that, first you have already scared away the most productive people away from said "future" system, if this is your pitch idea. Second, if you are trying to pander to everyones interests, you will eventually pander to nobodys interests. Some groups just don't want to even be associated with some other group, and yet alone to share stuff with them! This resentment will build up and too much resources will got to reduce internal conflictsall the time, which will eat up a lot of your budgets to just keep people away from killing each other in the end. So now you got a lot ofconstant internal conflicts, good luck with that....
Globalism is a meme.
This is what the Romans tried to do, they thought that said system that worked for mediterraneans would work on Northerners (germanic tribes + scandinavians, remember that they were very uncooperative, even after a defeat) and Arabs (pretty much Med./Indian/African mutts, I think it actually stems from the word "miscegenation" in some old language). The Roman empire had a tough geographical area to work with when they expanded. Demographically speaking, you got the middle east to the south east, and Germanic tribes in the north. So their bureaucracy couldn't handle all those conflicts at the same time maintaining their own shit at the same time.
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They all failed because they tried the globalism meme. This is exactly what we are seeing today.
Who the fuck thought importing niggers into Western nations, having sexual liberalism and feminism while having poojets maintaining tech and chinks producing all our tech while having Jews, Brits and scandinavians overlooking the "finances"... was a "good" idea!? I'm looking at Brazil in horror! Because the future is worse than that.
Yes, the whole world is undergoing a birth crisis which roman Empire also had undergone. Overtime they had to IMPORT outsiders and replenish the ranks of the military and workforce with the said migrants.
Of course this turned into a complete disaster and led to the collapse of the western roman empire where population decline was a prevalent problem unlike the Eastern empire.
Trump and his cohort is probably the only way to correct this decline. That comes with changing the constitution, and possible kingship.
