Is the calendar out of wack? - Should we keep using the calendar we have?

[Alex Hogendorp]

This may sound dumb but I've been seeing many conspiracy theory videos and pictures suggesting we live in a different year whether it be 300 or even 1000 years back, others suggesting a year should have 13 months with 28 days and even people suggesting the new year should start during the spring in the northern hemisphere.

It may sound weird but they do suggest ancient cultures used the 13 month calendar based on the moon (or patterns on a turtle's shell) hence Chinese New Year, Islamic Calendar, etc.

I do remember between the 16th and 20th Centuries countries switched from the Julian Calendar to the Gregorian Calendar though eastern orthodox countries celebrate Christmas on January 6 rather than December 25.

This thread is made to discuss interesting talking points about the calendar whether one person or another agrees or disagrees with whatever setting of the calendar.

 

[The Punished Mitch]

Unfortunately all of us niggercattle are stuck in an endless loop/simulation with no discernable resolution to the hellworld we're forced to endure.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

I know the Jewish calendar is moon based and it's absolutely bullshit adding/deducting days every year, so the regular one is better.

 

[Pedophobe]

That is dumb yes but I believe the current calendar has drifted a bit from reality over time. It makes sense for New Year's Day to occur at the perihelion but it's actually the day before now. So we need to add a day sometime to resynchronise it.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Ultimately your calendar exists because the government says it exists. There are some obscure globalist orgs like BIPM who control the calendar. If you understand history, you'll know that controlling the calendar is a position of great legitimacy and power. Happened in Rome and China. Losing the ability to control the calendar (like China did at various times when their court astronomers sucked) meant losing the state.

I feel the lunar calendar is more conducive long-run because it will be the same for hundreds of millions of years AND also requires constant upkeep by the authorities. It means the government is forced to do something positive for everyone every single year. There will never be retardation where the calendar is days and days out of date like the Julian calendar was and the current calendar will be.

But I think the Maya calendar is the best calendar ever invented because it's capable of being as complex or simple as you need it. They mostly used the Short Count when the Spanish showed up (7,200 day cycle) which is great for daily life. They also recorded dates on the Long Count which are 26 octillion years in the past referring to a symbolic date of creation. So just using the Maya calendar as historically used you can express any date up to 41.3 octillion years in the future and the same principle can go on forever. It also isn't based on a dead Jewish man who wasn't even born in 1 BC or 1 AD.

 

[R00T]

I know the Jewish calendar is moon based and it's absolutely bullshit adding/deducting days every year, so the regular one is better.

I’ll have you know I love our leap years that constantly add a month.

The benefit of a lunar cycle is that it is easier to track in your day to day if you and your tribe are farming all day don’t have this thing called electricity and advanced weather detecting technology or an ability to accurately track astral bodies moving in the sky. The fact that a simplified, fairly accurate version that used the sun was created in the time of the Romans shows how good humans are at figuring things out.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

Should be 2,777 AVC.

RETVRN

 

[Nick Obre]

I recall hearing about Tolkien coming up with a perfect calendar (which is used in the Middle Earth) with I think 13 months of identical length, in which certain days are considered special celebration days counted outside the normal week/month cycle. New Year's, and a few others. Of course something like that could only work if the whole world adopts it, because if the "outside" days aren't counted that way somewhere, the dates would be out of sync between places. Like it'd be Monday here and Tuesday there.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

I recall hearing about Tolkien coming up with a perfect calendar (which is used in the Middle Earth) with I think 13 months of identical length, in which certain days are considered special celebration days counted outside the normal week/month cycle. New Year's, and a few others. Of course something like that could only work if the whole world adopts it, because if the "outside" days aren't counted that way somewhere, the dates would be out of sync between places. Like it'd be Monday here and Tuesday there.

The French had a metric calendar like that. There were 12 months of three 10-day weeks and then there was a five day holiday week tacked on to the end.

 

[Otoya Yamaguchi]

I know the Jewish calendar is moon based and it's absolutely bullshit adding/deducting days every year, so the regular one is better.

It used to not be. The dead sea scrolls revealed that they used to have a solar calendar until the pharisees came and fucked up literally everything

The actual origin of Halloween as a commemorative day of those killed in the flood was also discovered

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But I think the Maya calendar is the best calendar ever invented because it's capable of being as complex or simple as you need it. They mostly used the Short Count when the Spanish showed up (7,200 day cycle) which is great for daily life. They also recorded dates on the Long Count which are 26 octillion years in the past referring to a symbolic date of creation. So just using the Maya calendar as historically used you can express any date up to 41.3 octillion years in the future and the same principle can go on forever. It also isn't based on a dead Jewish man who wasn't even born in 1 BC or 1 AD.

How can it be perfect if it says the world is 26 octillion years old. Also, the Jewish calendar is measured from creation of adam, not jesus

 

[Apustajan apustaja]

Calenders should be personalised, so that everyone is born on a monday. That way there are always people at the bar celebrating (their) friday night.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

How can it be perfect if it says the world is 26 octillion years old. Also, the Jewish calendar is measured from creation of adam, not jesus

The Maya calendar doesn't, but one Maya scholar apparently tried to discover it and came up with the date 13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.0.0.0.0 (20 repetitions of 13, both of which are sacred numbers the calendar is based around) which refers to an August 11 over 26 octillion years ago. That's a very easy to write date using the Long Count but not so easy to write using other calendars. In a way it's easier to write 13.0.11.3.9 (current date 1/2/24) than any alternative. And you really only need to write 0.11.3.9 (at least until the 25th century) and in daily life would only neeed 11.3.9. Perfect system for both people and computers.

The really creepy thing with the Maya calendar is how it correlates to both generations and lifespans. Each k'atun is 20 years, a little less than one generation but enough time to see the world seriously change, and in the Short Count they believed each k'atun had specific attributes and centered on specific cities. The baktun is 394 years which is roughly the length of an era in history. The current baktun (baktun 13) of course started in 2012, and we all know the world went absolutely insane after that. The previous baktun (baktun 12) started on the same day the first major battle in the Thirty Years War (last major European religious war) occurred.