Is the world really THAT doomed?

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I've seen a lot of doomers on this site, and I want to know, is the world really that doomed because of some dumb minority of Marxists, or whatever the heck it is now?

Think about it, we're doing pretty well:
  • Stock market is close to 30,000 points as of February 12th.
  • We're living close to 80 on average in the West, a feat that seemed impossible decades ago.
  • We can treat diseases that were seen as death sentences (cancer, AIDS, etc) not even 20 or 30 years ago with ease.
  • Unemployment in the US is at an all-time low.
I think we're doing pretty well, and I won't let some pink-haired college student tell me otherwise.
 
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The world fell into ruin in 2008
 
Okay so admittedly my take is pretty shit but just to play devil's advocate here:

1. The stock market doesn't mean shit to me so I'll pass this one

2. Average lifespan has actually dropped, and has continued to drop.

3. Yeah medicine has advanced, but access to that medicine is getting tougher. Insulin is still expensive as fuck for no reason.

4. I can't find a proper source for this, but the last I heard full-time jobs are dropping, with the majority of those new jobs being part time or 'gig economy' bullshit.

Of course automation, climate change and ocean acidification are both big issues moving forward.

And while I don't think shit is as bad as what a lot of TDS sufferers make it out to be,I personally consider this decade to be one of the big defining ones of our future.
 
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We're probably doomed in the long run, but I don't think it's because of the Marxists.

It's the global corporations that have created the mess we're in right now.

The Marxists, Anarcho-Communists, and SJW's are merely the useful idiots and unwitting toadies for the neoliberal corporate elites, just like how the Religious Right ended up filling the same niche for the neoconservatives back in the 1990's and 2000's.

Who cares at this point? Nobody lives forever, so enjoy life while you can. Grab a bag of popcorn and your drink of choice, then just sit back and relax while you enjoy the tragically ludicrous and ludicrously tragic shitshow that is humanity.

Humans are naturally self-destructive. If it wasn't climate change, automation, and neoliberalism, it would be something else entirely.
 
Gonna break this one down.

Stock market is close to 30,000 points as of February 12th.

Not really something that the average underclass/working/middle class person can really feel in their day to day life.

Thanks to technology we're also reaching a crisis point; take a look at those new supermarkets Amazon are opening that don't actually require any staff to operate.

The wealthy are going to become wealthier, and while there is a growing population there is going to be an ever-increasing shortage of work. No work means more crime, and more crime means more disorder.

We're living close to 80 on average in the West, a feat that seemed impossible decades ago.

It's actually on the decline in Europe for the lower middle classes and below, I couldn't say about America but it's also on a decline anywhere in the world (particularly the far east) that has adopted a western diet.

We can treat diseases that were seen as death sentences (cancer, AIDS, etc) not even 20 or 30 years ago with ease.

Provided you have the money, and the drug companies often vastly overcharge on these products thanks to the monopolies they hold on them.

Even in countries with universal healthcare this care only stretches so far; PReP is not available to the masses in the UK (subsidized prescriptions are provided to people with spouses who are HIV/AIDS positive or who are such uber sluts it's the only real way to control the spread; not as many as you'd think).

Unemployment in the US is at an all-time low.

That's not quite right

In the latest statistics if you're "Looking for work", you're not actually listed as unemployed in the US. The only reason unemployment is registered as down is because someone has been changing the rules as to what unemployed qualifies as.


I'm not a "Doomer" in the current sense, though I do think humanity or at least civilization in the form we know it will destroy itself with the way the climate is changing now. Efforts to change the damage that is being done are coming too slowly and far too late.
 
Things are pretty good right now. They could definitely be better, there's no doubt about that, but we're far from 'doomed'. Trump is massively cutting back regulations, which is great for us Libertarians; but he hasn't gone nearly far enough in my opinion, there are still far too many laws on the books. Over-regulation is how you get monopolies.
1. The stock market doesn't mean shit to me so I'll pass this one
Well it should. You should be investing your money. Plus, a good stock market is good for everyone; it's basically a snapshot of how the economy is doing, and everyone benefits from a strong economy, I don't think anyone would argue with that.
2. Average lifespan has actually dropped, and has continued to drop.
Mainly due to the opioid crisis and suicide rates of white men & transgenders. If you're not depressed or haven't gone through SRS you're pretty much golden.
3. Yeah medicine has advanced, but access to that medicine is getting tougher. Insulin is still expensive as fuck for no reason.
There are countless options available to people who can't afford their medical expenses.
Of course automation, climate change and ocean acidification are both big issues moving forward.
These issues are not as big as you think they are. People having been freaking out about climate change forever; and guess what, we're still here. The solution is to stop worrying about carbon emissions and building more nuclear power plants; and solar power as well, but only deployed in a way that makes sense, as opposed to, I don't know, putting solar panels under the road or whatever.

So all in all, for the most part, I'm really not worried. Also I couldn't get a fuck less about automation; and this is coming from a guy who's job could be replaced by a trained monkey.

Our biggest problems I think are cultural ones. One's that tell women they don't need men, the nuclear family is obsolete, and you can change your gender. That you don't have to do shit and the government will take care of you. Welfare programs are financial disincentives towards a strong family unit; it's why the black community is failing. Obviously blacks are the most affected by this but you see it in white families too.
 
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There's an old expression that I can't quite remember how it goes, something like "the world is always burning, the world is always dying, yet the sun will still rise." that kind of gets my feeling for how the world is going, Humanity has spent it's lifetime on the knifes edge and we know it, remember armegedon has been around the corner for over 2,000 years and every religion has some prophecy as to the end of the world.
 
World has been doomed ever since human gained sense of being.
By that I mean we all overreact to bad stuff happening.
Can world go to shit? Yes. But Im sure we will survive. Not just talking about people as whole but also as individuals
 
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