Law Kansas must undo gender changes for trans people in state records, attorney general says - "You can choose whatever name you want. You can choose to live however you want. That does not make you a woman." -Kansas state Sen. Renee Erickson, of Wichita

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BY JOHN HANNA
Published 11:02 PM UTC, June 26, 2023

TOPEKA, Kan. (AP) — A new Kansas law requires the state to reverse any previous gender changes in its records for trans people’s birth certificates and driver’s licenses while also preventing such changes going forward, the state’s conservative Republican attorney general declared Monday.

Attorney General Kris Kobach also said public schools’ records for students must list them as being the gender they were assigned at birth, whether or not teachers and staff recognize their gender identities.

Democratic Gov. Laura Kelly’s office said she disagrees with Kobach’s views, though it did not say whether state agencies under the governor’s control would follow or defy them, setting up the possibility of a court fight. In 2019, a federal judge began requiring Kansas to allow transgender people to change their birth certificates to settle a lawsuit over a no-change policy.

“The attorney general must be off his rocker,” said Omar Gonzalez-Pagan, an attorney for Lambda Legal, which represented the four Kansas residents. “This was a bunch of bombast by an attorney general engaging in politics.”

A formal but non-binding legal opinion issued Monday by Kobach and his statements during a Statehouse news conference confirmed that the new law, if fully in effect, legally would erase transgender people’s gender identities. Opponents predicted as much before the Republican-controlled Legislature enacted the law over Kelly’s veto, but the debate focused mostly on keeping transgender people from using restrooms and other facilities in line with their gender identities.

The new law defines a person’s sex — which can conflict with gender identity — based on a person’s “biological reproductive system” at birth. A female has a system “developed to produce ova” while a male has a system “developed to fertilize” that ova. It says “important governmental objectives” of protecting people’s health, safety and privacy justify sex-segregated spaces.

“You can choose whatever name you want. You can choose to live however you want,” said state Sen. Renee Erickson, of Wichita, one of three Republican lawmakers who joined Kobach during his news conference. “That does not make you a woman.”

If Kansas didn’t allow transgender people to change their birth certificates — its policy before the judge’s 2019 order — it would be among only a few states. Federal judges earlier this month upheld Oklahoma and Tennessee policies against such changes, and Montana could be sued in state courts over a 2022 law.

Micah Kubic, the executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Kansas, said state agencies are not required to adopt Kobach’s views and accused the attorney general of rushing to “impose his own stamp of extremism.”

The state hasn’t provided numbers for how many Kansas residents have changed the gender on either their birth certificates or their driver’s licenses during the past four years. Kobach put the number for birth certificates at more than 100. Kelly’s administration has not said how it will respond to the law.

Adam Kellogg, a 20-year-old transgender University of Kansas student, said Kobach’s views, if adopted by the state, would mean that transgender people who need to verify their identities would see conflicts between their documents and gender identities “get very tangled very quickly.” He said transgender people could be forced to out themselves, jeopardizing their safety.

“This is government imposition in a way that should be more concerning to more people,” Kellogg said.

Kobach stressed that transgender people would not have to surrender documents in their possession. They just wouldn’t be correct, legally.

He said he is not yet pressing for state action on birth certificates to give a federal judge a chance to grant his request to cancel the 2019 order. He argued that the state law takes precedent over what he described as a judge signing off on a legal settlement — an idea others dispute.

“The Legislature has spoken,” Kobach said during his news conference. “The governor’s staff and the governor’s agencies cannot act as if the Legislature did not override her veto.”

In a brief statement Monday, Kelly spokesperson Zach Fletcher said the administration had discussions with Kobach’s office but saw the federal judge’s 2019 order as “the appropriate resolution.”

Fletcher added that the governor’s office would not comment further because of “the impending litigation.” It wasn’t clear whether Kelly’s administration expects to defy Kobach and him to sue, or whether the administration will go to court itself.
 
its 2070 and these systems have a deadname field for keeping track of past records, the IT backend was outsourced to Somalia by the pajeets.

The programming encounters an error where it logically must make these people dead and starts issuing arrest warrants and entering falsified capital punishment judgments into the system for white supremacy dated 10 years back. (Capital punishment having been banned federally by president trump EO in 2025 for all but this one horrific crime)
 
Changing gender on official and medical records is another level on insanity designed exclusively to help criminals get away from the consequences of their actions.
I can agree, and yet, I don't really rejoice at this decision.

I await the inevitable overturn by a federal judge.
I think that's exactly what will happen. And I think that's why this law is misguided. Because some normal people will be on the fence/agree it's unfair. You can take away the opportunity to do so, but taking it back after giving it is harsher.

Who the fuck cares if the man in a dress has a she/her on his ID? They are projecting their mental illness all over, and that's fine with me.

They can play pretend if they want, then make the hard choice they've been delaying for so long.

What I take issue with is them trying to control what I do, say or think of them. Them infiltrating every fucking aspect of my life to remind me of their fetish and try to impose it on me and my offspring without anyone batting an eye.

No matter what is on your ID, I am not going to play into this delusion. And that's my right, just like it's their right is to be insane.

I don't want anything to do with them. I don't want to be force fed acceptance by rich assholes, bullshit organization, schools, entertainment companies, actors, HR, shops, coffee chains etc...

Trannies are allowed to exist, like any other mentally ill people. But where the legislation should really stand is to highlight that this is a mental illness. It should not be celebrated, it should not be taught, it should not be put in the spotlight.

Imagine if all these same people started to push for the acceptance of paranoid schizos and their ideas, let them teach your kids. It would not fly.
 
Who the fuck cares if the man in a dress has a she/her on his ID?
...
What I take issue with is them trying to control what I do, say or think of them.
Are you exceptional? The government has absolute power over you and controls what you can do and say. Raping the government into falsifying documents is how troons exert control over you, it's the big lie from which every other lie flows.

Why isn't any other rubric (obviously aside from the name) subject to [not necessarily frictionless] self-identification? Why is "gender identity" on the documents at all? Why not religion, or highest attained education level, or political compass quadrant, or species, or shoe size, or or minor league team, or standing jump record, or netflix password, or KiwiFarms join date and favorite lolcow? All of these make more sense than the "gender identity" of a newborn baby.
 
Adam Kellogg, a 20-year-old transgender University of Kansas student, said Kobach’s views, if adopted by the state, would mean that transgender people who need to verify their identities would see conflicts between their documents and gender identities “get very tangled very quickly.” He said transgender people could be forced to out themselves, jeopardizing their safety.
Just don't lie and all your problems go away. By the way, everyone you meet already knows that you're a fat woman, "Adam":
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Having a neckbeard doesn't change your female face.
 
Are you exceptional? The government has absolute power over you and controls what you can do and say. Raping the government into falsifying documents is how troons exert control over you, it's the big lie from which every other lie flows.

Why isn't any other rubric (obviously aside from the name) subject to [not necessarily frictionless] self-identification? Why is "gender identity" on the documents at all? Why not religion, or highest attained education level, or political compass quadrant, or species, or shoe size, or or minor league team, or standing jump record, or netflix password, or KiwiFarms join date and favorite lolcow? All of these make more sense than the "gender identity" of a newborn baby.
I absolutely see your point, and I agree.

I just think that it's acceptable to loose a few battles to win the fight.

I don't think this is strong enough of a winner. I want something airtight, not some glitter thrown in my eyes to make me happy for a few months.

This feels like a psy-op in my mind, because there is so much more to be addressed when it come to the tranny issue. ID is fucking irrelevant.
 
Giving back ill gotten gains always feels bad, the solution is not letting you keep it, its you not having stolen them in the first place.
I am just talking about perception with the masses. I obviously agree.
 
Your "identity" documents used to have to be irrefutably, undeniably true. Objective. Serious. "Show us your papers" and all that. And if something changed, like getting married or adopted or whatever, you had to keep them updated or you (or whoever was responsible) would get shit for being lame or lazy. Sometimes in real trouble. If there was any deviation between who you said you were and your documents, (or your credit card back in the day when they were used as quasi IDs and/or when a clerk wanted to compare signatures) eyebrows would be raised. You were suspicious. And no one was obliged to take your word alone on who you were. "Identity theft" (impersonating someone you're not, ahem) is still a crime. But only in certain circumstances now. Now your identifying documentation can say whatever the fuck you want it to in some US states. Permitting Big Mommy "little white lies" in public documentation and public records to soothe and affirm these childish assholes should never have been approved. Good for KS.
 
I can agree, and yet, I don't really rejoice at this decision.


I think that's exactly what will happen. And I think that's why this law is misguided. Because some normal people will be on the fence/agree it's unfair. You can take away the opportunity to do so, but taking it back after giving it is harsher.

Who the fuck cares if the man in a dress has a she/her on his ID? They are projecting their mental illness all over, and that's fine with me.

They can play pretend if they want, then make the hard choice they've been delaying for so long.

What I take issue with is them trying to control what I do, say or think of them. Them infiltrating every fucking aspect of my life to remind me of their fetish and try to impose it on me and my offspring without anyone batting an eye.

No matter what is on your ID, I am not going to play into this delusion. And that's my right, just like it's their right is to be insane.

I don't want anything to do with them. I don't want to be force fed acceptance by rich assholes, bullshit organization, schools, entertainment companies, actors, HR, shops, coffee chains etc...

Trannies are allowed to exist, like any other mentally ill people. But where the legislation should really stand is to highlight that this is a mental illness. It should not be celebrated, it should not be taught, it should not be put in the spotlight.

Imagine if all these same people started to push for the acceptance of paranoid schizos and their ideas, let them teach your kids. It would not fly.
If you can't change your date of birth/age, why should you be allowed to change something as unchangeable as SEX
It doesn't say Gender. It says SEX. If they had two separate categories: Sex (unchangeable) Gender (do whatever) then thatd be fine. But they're bending reality dangerously here.
 
Adam Kellogg, a 20-year-old transgender University of Kansas student
"Adam" was trooned out as a minor (at least 6 years ago per social media history). And her mother is a hideous 60 year old bulldyke.

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"Adam"s deadname is Alexis Jordan Kellogg. The name change was done in 2017 when she was about 13 or 14 years old.

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This all happened a couple years after mom exited heterosexuality in 2012:

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Why do I do this? Autism. Every brick in the wall proving the root of the Problem stacks up and is worth documenting.
 
"Adam" was trooned out as a minor (at least 6 years ago per social media history). And her mother is a hideous 60 year old bulldyke.

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"Adam"s deadname is Alexis Jordan Kellogg. The name change was done in 2017 when she was about 13 or 14 years old.

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This all happened a couple years after mom exited heterosexuality in 2012:

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Why do I do this? Autism. Every brick in the wall proving the root of the Problem stacks up and is worth documenting.
Sigh, this is almost too easy.

An insane lesbian wanted more woke points and had a quack Dr. hack her daughter to pieces.
 
Sigh, this is almost too easy.

An insane lesbian wanted more woke points and had a quack Dr. hack her daughter to pieces.
Groovy Mommy Late Bloomer Dyke, having fucked up and lost control of her own life, started living vicariously through her poor kid after having a midlife crisis. She failed at being a spouse, an adult & a parent. Unwilling or unable to reconcile and address that within herself, she switched her focus to her kid. And projected all kinds of stupid trendy troon shit onto her. Managing and participating in your kid's troon journey is a sweet bonding experience that some mothers can't resist. There's doctors to see, surgeries to have, and Pride marches to attend together. Becoming your kid's troon Life Coach when they hit adolescence stalls the inevitable (and natural) parent-child split. And troon parents deeply fear that split. They know that they may entirely lose their kids to it. Especially when they missed out on bonding and building trust with their child earlier when they were younger because they were too busy stalling their own maturity and/or fucking up their own lives.
 
Sigh, this is almost too easy.

An insane lesbian wanted more woke points and had a quack Dr. hack her daughter to pieces.
And look where she is now, these woke points have much less value than Zimbabwe dollar. It's a miracle then her daughter hadn't pulled an Audrey Tale yet.
 
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