Kiwi Farms' User Count is on the Decline - (and why that's a good thing)

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I'm mostly a visitor to Kiwi Farms. I don't often make posts or contribute to any other part of the site. This is because I don't believe I have anything worthwhile to contribute.

I think that I shared this sentiment with most other new users when I first made an account. In fact, I never really progressed beyond the point of needing to "lurk moar" because I believe that keeping a high standard of post quality is much more important to Kiwi Farms than most other forums since this site is constantly fighting an uphill battle against its outside reputation. I personally don't think that I can help repair Kiwi Farms' reputation because I don't possess enough insight into any particular thread to contribute anything relevant or necessary (read: I'm not mentally ill enough to stalk minor internet celebrities unlike the rest of you helpful fuckers.)

As an observer, I can say that this sentiment has all but disappeared from the collective new-user conscience this year, and in the past few months most especially. A sizeable portion of 2022 users join the site expecting to find a dumping ground of useless shitposts where the goal is to out-do the previous post in terms of edginess to rack up more internet points because that is the reputation that has been attributed to the site.

I won't claim to know what the site was like before I started lurking around late 2019, but I'm aware that it was much smaller than it is now. The only people who knew about Kiwi Farms were those who were interested in lolcow gossip, along with those that may have heard its name mentioned in the New Zealand Times. In the current year, everyone and their grandmother knows what Kiwi Farms is, and they know it as a place of vitriol and hatred and racism and all manner of pestilence that only the worst-of-the-worst would ever dare tread. A humorous mischaracterisation, sure, but those who believe the website to be so will treat it as such.

Since the previous URLs were nuked, and after the brief stint of exclusivity on Tor, I've noticed that there seem to be fewer users with a join date from this year, and to the surprise of absolutely no one this seems to have coincided with more effort being put into what is posted. I'd like to think that this is because only the True & Honest fans of Kiwi Farms have bothered to keep up to date on where to find the site and those just wanting to find a place to shit on the current-thing have moved on due to the inconvenience of switching URLs along with having their favourite cow's thread closed (locking the K*ffals-associated threads was the best decision Null made after the recent social media circus, even if locking Lucas' thread gave him exactly what he wanted.)

The site's much more enjoyable to use now as a lurker, despite the intermittent downtime and having to play whack-a-mole with whichever URL to use. Hell, if I had it my way I'd have the site stay exclusively on Tor forever to make it as inaccessible to new users as possible. I'd rather have slow loading speeds if it means whatever's being loaded is actually worth reading.
 
I can see that being a good thing, I was a long time lurker who joined right before, the Chris incest saga happen. With that whole incident I was worried about lolcow culture, (and the farms) and the farms going mainstream. But as 2022 happen with the great troon war and a lot of lolcow coverage channels getting nuked on youtube i dont think that will happen.
 
Both accounts that made the fedposts were 2-3 years old and became active again all of a sudden. These kind of posts also wouldn't be approved under moderation queue either.
It's more a problem of compromised or weak passwords in those cases. Which lends credence to the issue based on the ongoing bruteforce password attacks going on
 
It's a double-edged sword but I feel for the most part its a positive for quality. There is far, far less garbage to sift through in more active sub-sections but I've also seen a good # of older posters not yet make a return. They were people I found quite enjoyable to talk to and riff with as things were posted.

With luck they'll return but that's just something that needs time to determine.
 
It's a double-edged sword but I feel for the most part its a positive for quality. There is far, far less garbage to sift through in more active sub-sections but I've also seen a good # of older posters not yet make a return. They were people I found quite enjoyable to talk to and riff with as things were posted.

With luck they'll return but that's just something that needs time to determine.
The old posters that leave wouldn't want you to suck their dick or lionize them, if anything they'd want you to fill the spot they left behind. And who cares anyways, they're all 30- and 40-something degenerate shitposters on a forum, not Justice League founders.

In response to the OP, if you haven't participated in community acitivities, been invited to back channels or received DMs from people who want to get to know you, you're a dang dirty tourist and doing something wrong. Go post in the Sardines thread and mingle a little, geez.
 
Idk, I don't see where the annoyance comes in. People are doing whatever they're doing, it's fine. If they're acting stupid then tell them they're being stupid.

At this point the only thing that's annoyed me with newer users is an obsession with trendiness, where their attention is dictated more by internet relevance than anything, but that's not even a valid complaint to just put on 2022s a number of older users seem to have gone off the rails with recent happenings and the parties involved (including guys like Destiny and related).

Imo that's not even a huge deal either, it's just that people need to exert a little motherfucking self-control, that's all. I know that's a big ask on the internet.

The old posters that leave wouldn't want you to suck their dick or lionize them, if anything they'd want you to fill the spot they left behind. And who cares anyways, they're all 30- and 40-something degenerate shitposters on a forum, not Justice League founders.

In response to the OP, if you haven't participated in community acitivities, been invited to back channels or received DMs from people who want to get to know you, you're a dang dirty tourist and doing something wrong. Go post in the Sardines thread and mingle a little, geez.
DM chains and w/e feel so weird and intimate and circle-jerky, it feels like it defeats the purpose of an internet forum. The bourgeoisie shouldn't hoard their posts away from the internet proletariat.

Although in my case I think most of my DMs have been from Tommy Tooter raging at me, idk if that counts. I never read most of them though.

I regret to inform you that if I right this ship we will officially jump the shark and our numbers will increase dramatically.
Sir there's no reason to scare us like that.
 
A sizeable portion of 2022 users join the site expecting to find a dumping ground of useless shitposts where the goal is to out-do the previous post in terms of edginess to rack up more internet points because that is the reputation that has been attributed to the site.
In the current year, everyone and their grandmother knows what Kiwi Farms is, and they know it as a place of vitriol and hatred and racism and all manner of pestilence that only the worst-of-the-worst would ever dare tread. A humorous mischaracterisation, sure, but those who believe the website to be so will treat it as such.
When all else fails, I like to think this web comic pretty much replicated real life:

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The old posters that leave wouldn't want you to suck their dick or lionize them, if anything they'd want you to fill the spot they left behind. And who cares anyways, they're all 30- and 40-something degenerate shitposters on a forum, not Justice League founders.
I don't mention them because I feel they're the foundation or the best or some such. I mention them because they were usually people I'd have interesting conversations with, enjoyed hearing their opinions on things, or just found them to be a positive contributor. It's not an incalculable loss that I'll mourn for the rest of my days so much as a mild bummer.
 
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A small amount of them never leave and just use newer account names and join dates, so not every pink name is a total write-off

DM chains and w/e feel so weird and intimate and circle-jerky, it feels like it defeats the purpose of an internet forum. The bourgeoisie shouldn't hoard their posts away from the internet proletariat.
That's a worst-case scenario, most people should pop into Movie Night like once a month if they want to feel included. It's not hard. Well, TamperMonkey's about as hard as TOR I guess.
 
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