Malfoid

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Just want to say I fucking love that the trannies really thought their Petra Parker self inserts were gonna win waifu of the year 2026, and then in comes Malfoid with the chair for the October surprise. Absolutely glorious.
 
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Sigg Kyle said:
I saw a foid that looked like malfoid
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Sigg Kyle said:
Me and my buddy had a soybooru style useless nigger war
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Sigg Kyle said:
nigger war about JK rowling that night
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I feel as though Malfoid is not accurately depicted as a character in the fanon. People will draw the genderbent version crushing over Harry.

I have been reading through the books lately and Malfoy is depicted as a smug child who was unfairly treated by Harry. As shown in a meme posted earlier in this thread from the movie.
Malfoy shows great sadness watching Dumbledore give 200 points to Gryffindor, taking away Slytherin's victory.

Malfoy is extremely toxic within the start of the next book because of this. (Where I am at.) He was much more welcoming to Harry in the first book, only to watch him take away his glory. He goes as far as to using wizard slurs at a young age. This creates a conflict between the two that is shown later in the series, albeit through Harry's biased lens.

I appreciate watching Malfoid and Harry combine their efforts to take down Voldemort and feel as though that moment would've been better. I am pointing out that it is not all sunshine and rainbows, and feel that this is accurately depicted in the Sectum Sempura part where Malfoy is wounded to near death by Harry who later runs away.

I would like to imagine Malfoid's darker conflict with Harry, as opposed to the fantastical romance that is imagined within the fanom.
 
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DYLAN ‘DIELAWN’ VOLK said:
I actually don't think you could. It's a boomer camping fantasy and there are five books of him doing the same dumbass shit. It's a decent book when you're like 8, I liked it a lot as a little girl, but it's not as good as other YA fiction from that time period.
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Worse, it was a boomer camping isekai that was ripping off greatest generation camping fantasy like My Side of the Mountain.
 
Male Idiot said:
Is she that toxic? It is a base bitch tsundere. The idea here is that he would fix Harry's libshittery. He isn't fixing her, she is fixing him.
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To have a tsundere "fix" the MC would lead to incredibly weak characterization and essentially just be a self insert wish fulfillment story.

Bullet Kin said:
I would like to imagine Malfoid's darker conflict with Harry, as opposed to the fantastical romance that is imagined within the fanom.
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I think with the right touch you could have both. Both Malfoid and Harry are flawed in this universe. Neither is ready for a healthy relationship so you can have something that can run too hot at times and then completely falls apart at others.

Nana managed to do something like this between Ren and Nana, but neither character dealt with their issues and it spiralled.

So imo it's also possible for Harry and Malfoid to end up together but not having the relationship between them be completely healthy. I mean, even though they do actually love each other, the damage has been done. But it's too nuanced a take for the HP universe though so a complete redemption suits the story more.
 
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Bullet Kin said:
I feel as though Malfoid is not accurately depicted as a character in the fanon. People will draw the genderbent version crushing over Harry.

I have been reading through the books lately and Malfoy is depicted as a smug child who was unfairly treated by Harry. As shown in a meme posted earlier in this thread from the movie.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=351Aa5q_S98Malfoy shows great sadness watching Dumbledore give 200 points to Gryffindor, taking away Slytherin's victory.

Malfoy is extremely toxic within the start of the next book because of this. (Where I am at.) He was much more welcoming to Harry in the first book, only to watch him take away his glory. He goes as far as to using wizard slurs at a young age. This creates a conflict between the two that is shown later in the series, albeit through Harry's biased lens.

I appreciate watching Malfoid and Harry combine their efforts to take down Voldemort and feel as though that moment would've been better. I am pointing out that it is not all sunshine and rainbows, and feel that this is accurately depicted in the Sectum Sempura part where Malfoy is wounded to near death by Harry who later runs away.

I would like to imagine Malfoid's darker conflict with Harry, as opposed to the fantastical romance that is imagined within the fanom.
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I think the Malfoid switch + romance works best as a blend of both. Malfoy is arguably the most consistent antagonistic force to the main trio across the first three books (not necessarily the biggest antagonist of course, just the one which is a pain in Harry & friends' asses the most) before becoming less important later as Voldemort increasingly steals the show, and I think the story would lose a lot if you change that or sand Malfoid's rough edges down by comparison. Think someone else mentioned it earlier in this thread but Goblet of Fire's Yule ball makes the most sense for the place where this changes & the first real glimpses of any real romance between her & Harry can be allowed to emerge, mirroring Ron/Hermione.

Of the first three books' developments, I think the mess with Buckbeak is the only thing I'd even slightly tweak (since his canonical actions there do make Malfoy too unlikeable for any prospect of a Malfoid reconciliation with Harry, whether purely platonic or romantic in nature, to remain realistic IMO). Other than that - keep Malfoid the chudette jackass and fierce rival to Harry that Malfoy was canonically, any romantic interaction between them at this stage should be kept minimal/nonexistent (and frankly they're still too young to be looking at each other like that in these books anyway).
 
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A lot of these miss the visual language regarding Malfoid’s hairstyle. The movie got Malfoy’s perfectly: his hair combed back lends towards an aristocratic look that implies a time commitment not available to plebeians, but lacking any whimsical elements other, less-blood-focused, wizards would employ. The original image got it right in one. Giving her long hair that would take time and probably another pair of hands to maintain without any bangs to hide an aristocratic forehead is perfect visual storytelling.
 
Chuckwagon said:
Other than that - keep Malfoid the chudette jackass and fierce rival to Harry that Malfoy was canonically, any romantic interaction between them at this stage should be kept minimal/nonexistent (and frankly they're still too young to be looking at each other like that in these books anyway).
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I am personally a big sucker for the sappy love-at-first-sight fairytale sort of thing, but the ages that the story covers leaves a lot of room for ambiguity and back-and-forth IMO.

I tweaked events for their first meeting to set the stage for a very emotional start to a friendship (glossing over the robe shop meeting as a near miss and having Crabbe/Goyle try to steal from the snack cart on the Hogwarts express so they get thrown into a separate compartment and give Harry and Malfoid a chance to meet cute without actually knowing each other yet), but because of the timeframe involved it begins as a lot of unfamiliar and unnamed feelings, a slight change in tone around certain events from 'you are scum and you're beneath me' to 'why do you hang out around scum, they're beneath you', debates over 'why the hell are you like this', and an inexplicable double-standard for a special sort of friend-rival that nobody else understands, which stands as a reliable trigger for performative and contradictory tsundere shenanigans and eventually progresses to the third and fourth years where everyone but them know something is up and they simply refuse to admit to it until it becomes impossible, with a lingering sense of unstable identity to keep major events on track and provide steady conflict.

It probably doesn't play out as well for a full rewrite but at this point I'm just writing cute shorts and I feel like it can work as a warmer and fuzzier sort of tone.
 
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Bullet Kin said:
I appreciate watching Malfoid and Harry combine their efforts to take down Voldemort and feel as though that moment would've been better. I am pointing out that it is not all sunshine and rainbows, and feel that this is accurately depicted in the Sectum Sempura part where Malfoy is wounded to near death by Harry who later runs away.
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Also on this specific note, I've been reminded that Harry & Malfoy actually have an only slightly less bloody confrontation much earlier in the sixth book before the infamous Sectumsempra scene, where Malfoy petrifies Harry after catching him eavesdropping in the Invisibility Cloak and stomps on his face to break his nose. Harry's not really the type to keep grudges and IIRC doesn't even think about this incident when he nearly kills Malfoy in the bathroom later, but in general their rivalry is at its worst & most violent in Half-Blood Prince, and in a sense he gets (more than) even with Malfoy for the train episode in their fight. If anything, Malfoid stepping on him with high heels might motivate him to put real malice behind his spell before he realizes what it actually does, lmao.

I'm also in the camp that doesn't expect Harry x Malfoid to be a perfectly happy fairytale romance with only nonconsequential tsun-tsun fighting between the pair, all in all. Especially in the 6th book, they do a fair bit of brutal shit to each other that they'll both have to awkwardly acknowledge & apologize for later (as opposed to ignoring, out of pride or any lingering sense of rivalry/hatred) if they're going to sincerely reconcile on friendly terms, much less romantic ones. I can still see it working out in the end, but their road there gets a lot rockier late in the series and will require developing a willingness to humble themselves before the other a bit & confess 'yeah I was a huge asshole that time, sorry' on both characters' sides.
 
Chuckwagon said:
I'm also in the camp that doesn't expect Harry x Malfoid to be a perfectly happy fairytale romance with only nonconsequential tsun-tsun fighting between the pair, all in all. Especially in the 6th book, they do a fair bit of brutal shit to each other that they'll both have to awkwardly acknowledge & apologize for later
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Exactly. It would be a relationship that follows the character's own growth. The immature, infatuated tsundere malfoid and younger harry relationship could fizzle out and be a kind of failure to launch, because that kind of thing is really unsustainable. You could then write a more serious kind of rivalry as they get older.
 
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