Manassas Battlefield being threatened by "Worlds largest Data center" project.

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Should we build massive computing complexes over historical sites?

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The Prince William Digital Gateway project is currently being sued by the American Battlefield Trust to relocate their project, which would be the titular "Biggest Data center in the world".

“The fact that the historic site will now sit in the shadow of the monstrous data centers, along with their associated electrical infrastructure, is a national disgrace,” the 78-page complaint says.
-https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/01/12/prince-william-digital-gateway-lawsuit-virginia-data-centers/

Main concerns are, of course, a fucking gigantic data center looming over an historical American landmark, the massive burden on local electrical infrastructure and damage to the environment.
The Project was rushed, does not adhere to county or state law and is primarily being pushed by private land owners.

County officials and attorneys for the two data center companies — Compass Datacenters and QTS Data Centers — have said an earlier notice was submitted but had mistakenly not been published.

This project was pushed through at the very last meeting county officials had before being replaced.

The Manassas area is historic due to the campaigns and battles that took place there during the American Civil War.
 
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millais said:
I watched the video from the American Battlefield Trust, and it seems like the land that would be used for this project is on the very outside periphery of the battlefield, not the historic battlefield itself. It would ruin the view for sure.

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What the hell is even the purpose of constructing more behemoth data centers except for the benefit of a select few at the top of enterprise, likely for stupid shit like AI thinktanks? Computing hardware development needs to be shifted away from being made for mega servers, aka someone elses computer back to personal computers, but good luck with the people in charge of these things. They want to have all of the computing power and for us to have none.
 
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Once again destroying history for short term gain. I bet they'll demolish the data center before it hits the 50 year mark
 
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I’m torn between hating the data centers because it ruins the battlefield and a beautiful area of the US. On the other hand, I fucking despise the “people” who live in NOVA and having them be more miserable is a small victory.
 
on the one hand, data centers are gay. as far as I can tell, this one isn't even being built for a specific reason, the purpose of this "Prince William Digital Gateway project" is just to arbitrarily stand up data centers in the hopes that tech companies will move in and Create Jobs™. on the other hand, what is really the utility of preserving Civil War battlefields? obviously I understand the purpose of historical preservation generally, but a Civil War battlefield in particular is a shit thing to preserve, it's just a field where a bunch of people died in one of the most wretched wars this country has ever fought. it's fucking shameful, if you want to honor the dead then build a park on it or something, or a library, or literally anything that actually improves people's lives. keep a couple of the ones where people do reenactments, and just bulldoze the rest. we already have statues and museums and artifacts and shit, there's no reason to bind the land itself to that dark memory as well.
 
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on the one hand, data centers are gay. as far as I can tell, this one isn't even being built for a specific reason, the purpose of this "Prince William Digital Gateway project" is just to arbitrarily stand up data centers in the hopes that tech companies will move in and Create Jobs™. on the other hand, what is really the utility of preserving Civil War battlefields? obviously I understand the purpose of historical preservation generally, but a Civil War battlefield in particular is a shit thing to preserve, it's just a field where a bunch of people died in one of the most wretched wars this country has ever fought. it's fucking shameful, if you want to honor the dead then build a park on it or something, or a library, or literally anything that actually improves people's lives. keep a couple of the ones where people do reenactments, and just bulldoze the rest. we already have statues and museums and artifacts and shit, there's no reason to bind the land itself to that dark memory as well.
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We lost some of those statues during the Summer of Love though.
 
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It's a particularly important battlefield historically, but I don't know if it's worth preserving battlefields like that. I've been to many and honestly there isn't much to them. Most of the time the land looks nothing like it would have at the time - erosion, tree growth, and such - surrounded by human civilization and a few plaques up talking about who stood where at what hour. Some of them have a bit more to them, like a monument to it, a recreation of a building, or existing buildings that have been preserved, and usually some shitty little museum. One notable exception would be the Crater where the literal crater is the focus of the story. Or some places with a distinctive hill of infamy (like Little Round Top) or a river (Horseshoe Bend). I feel like we have to be careful picking and choosing what is worth holding up society for. Buildings (often in cities) are more important to me as a rule than making parks out of wilderness. Charleston once threatened to tear down the building where the state signed its Declaration of Independence to put up a gas station in that spot.
 
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