Mega Rad Gun Thread

[Polock]

Hmmm... why?

For reasons that don't matter - they're esthetically really ugly. You can tell that there was an attempt at trying to salvage the esthetic aspect of them, its not a purely utilitarian design but it still ends up ugly.

Side profile of their XPS and 55X are gross. The (E)XPS has a gunt and while the 55X looks better on its own, when its on a gun it usually clashes with the lines of said gun. You have this weird beveled log that's floating over your aggressive looking rails and handguards.

Actually looking through the sight, over 50% of what you're looking at is the emitter housing and frame for the glass with these big buttons like it's some sort of arcade cabinet.

Lets be clear, I'm not autistic enough to let this influence my decision making...too much. A lot of optic designs are ugly imo, but they also really depend on what they're attached to. I would still choose a quality ugly optic over one that I thought looked nice. I think the Ultra Dot Pan AV is peak design but I would never seriously run one. ACOG on a carry handle I probably would, that's pretty peak too.

 

[AncientPhosphur]

BCM, SOLGW, and Geissele have good reputations. No one is exempt from QC issues sadly.

My uppers are all BCM. Only issues I’ve ever had were mag related or user retardation

Their piston JAKL rifle also has many issues. Any video I've seen from any guntuber who isn't a shill has mentioned problems with their JAKL, even if they still liked the rifle overall.

I’ve only seen them once or twice at a match and I’m grateful for the people who bring them because they almost always have issues during stages

 

[Pretend To Imagine]

My uppers are all BCM. Only issues I’ve ever had were mag related or user retardation


I’ve only seen them once or twice at a match and I’m grateful for the people who bring them because they almost always have issues during stages

Interestingly the rifles I see with the most issues are AKs.

 

[AncientPhosphur]

Interestingly the rifles I see with the most issues are AKs.

Only thing I’ve seen with AKs is the user not managing to seat the mag or fire on an empty chamber. Last match I went with everyone decided to game the match due to poorly written rules about mag changes and dude just fucked his reload up pretty bad on the move it cost him time

 

[societyguy01]

This is a good point and not something i had thought about, selling guns feels like some sort of blasphemy to me the thought has never crossed my mind, i would probably become homeless and sleep under my gun safe if times where tough.

You never know when your collection just might be the thing that ends up saving your hide when things get tough. Depending on the size you could easily fund anything you'd want from a new car, to a land purchase or a vacation. While attachment at the end of the day is understandable if you're in debt and can sell 10% of your guns to wipe it all away then it may not be so blasphemous after all. To that end would you rather spend $5000 dollars on many PSA rifles that dealers won't touch, or would you rather spend that money on a few DDs, 4 quality import AKs or a fully kitted out MR556A4 that the right person will buy if you cut them a little slack?

 

[TheOtherSideofMakeBelieve]

Interestingly the rifles I see with the most issues are AKs.

Only thing I’ve seen with AKs is the user not managing to seat the mag or fire on an empty chamber. Last match I went with everyone decided to game the match due to poorly written rules about mag changes and dude just fucked his reload up pretty bad on the move it cost him time

Factory ones that I've seen are generally fine but I think more people than would be willing to admit it fall for the 'Hadji built this in a cave! With a box of scrap!' meme and end up with something only a couple of steps above that cursed AK that Brandon Herrerra rescued after trying to build their own. Maybe it has straight lines but nothing is really within the proper tolerances and they got too frustrated to keep working on it after finally getting it to mostly run

 

[Taser Confetti]

Interestingly the rifles I see with the most issues are AKs.

Because every commercially available AK on the market is a shitbox unless you’re willing to drop used Honda Civic money on a Rifle Dynamics or Krebs.

 

[DocAwe]

Just get a Galil.

 

[Boney]

Lets be clear, I'm not autistic enough to let this influence my decision making...too much.

Heh. Eotech is my favorite optic to actually use. They are far more fragile and finnicky then people seem to think. Still, very cozy optic that has spent plenty of time on real battle fields.

Interestingly the rifles I see with the most issues are AKs.

Uh, yeah, but dude look at it shoot with a ham sandwich crammed in the action after I take the dust cover off. This means they are good or reliable or something.

 

[The Dude]

To be honest, I really hate the EOTech but it 100% fits on the Vector and its what I'm going to use as well. I haven't decided what the base platform is going to be, whether I get the carbine version and wait to get the tax stamp when its free, or just go for the SBR first. I definitely want to get a can for it too.

I also kinda like the carbine with the barrel shroud but there's no way I would run a suppressor on that.

How cheap we talking? Are we talking ammo you bought from some vaguely brown guy that came loose in a plastic bag or are we talking name brand but still FMJ?

Yeah they're kinda expensive normally. I wonder if you can run them in a Glock or if the spring is going to be too strong and will mess with things. They advise to get a reloading tool.

I personally like the EOTech, especially with the green reticle. I've got one of those Vortex AMG holosights on my Origin 12 that I like, but I like the EOTech more personally.

Getting the factory SBR model is like $1900. That's why I went with the pistol version and just Form 1'd it. The pistol variant was under $1400.

By cheap ammo I'm talking Browning Training & Practice 100rnd packs and Federal red box 50rnd boxes, all brass case FMJ. The kind of stuff you can get for $12 for 50rnds.

I think the mags should work in GLOCK pistols, but I don't own one to try. I have no issues loading 39rnds into the mags with my thumbs, but that last round is a real bitch and probably does need a mag loader to get it in. Again, I don't currently own a mag loader since I've really never needed one. I just typically load 39rnds into them. I do want to get some normal GLOCK 17 mags and some 33rnd GLOCK 18 mags. The smaller mags will just be for target shooting at the range, but I want to test the 33rnd mags against the 40rnd extended Vector mags to see if there is any reliability differences between the two. The 33rnd G18 mags will probably be easier to use in magazine pouches and less likely to get hung up when pulling them out to reload.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

Just get a Galil.

The "Fuck You, Got Mine" AK crowd shitting themselves when their tournament got creamed by a guy with a GALIL ACE is priceless

 

[Pretend To Imagine]

Eotech is my favorite optic to actually use.

I personally like the EOTech, especially with the green reticle.

The dot only Eotech are my favorite. I have 6 of them.

The "Fuck You, Got Mine" AK crowd shitting themselves when their tournament got creamed by a guy with a GALIL ACE is priceless

I want to enter that competition with a CMMG mutant because is direct impingement.

There was a funny article years ago about the Direct Impingement Conversion Kit for AKs. “Put a DICK in your rifle.”

 

[God's drunkest driver]

Yeah its autism alright but maybe not the kind I was hoping for.

Many such cases. Agreed that ARs are probably the best mid caliber solution and that a two rifle solution can do it all.

However, on the flipside, in the last 30 years, mainstream pop culture has pretty much entirely capitulated on the idea that big corporations or the government are even capable of providing anything at all. i dont think the public has had one iota of trust in any public institution or corporation in the last decade, people walk around with the assumption that they're cutting every corner possible and going out of their way to screw individuals over. A surplus firearm is a victory over the state's incompetency not the providence of government policy

The gun industry is just going to continue to fall for the same old wealth extracting faggot executive problem that every other industry has been falling to, it's not special. Hopefully the sig problem will shake more gun people's faith in brandfagging and make more people "I evaluate every gun based on its merits" types, but wishful thinking.

 

[Sirius]

may I ask how exactly sig fucked up the p320 so hard in the first place? to my understanding it's just a striker-fired descendant of the p250 which (while fairly obscure) didn't seem to get shit on as much. a striker-fired polymer-framed pistol isn't exactly anything new anymore either, and sig (while now incompetent) hasn't always been that way.
I kinda understand how the drop fire stuff started, I mean mistakes (even really big and stupid ones) unfortunately do happen. but even with that upgrade program in 2017 they still didn't fix it and that was 8 fucking years ago.
is it because the design flaw is so deeply rooted in the engineering that you'd have to basically start from scratch in order to fix it? because clearly the band-aid solution hasn't worked.

 

[big pauper]

is it because the design flaw is so deeply rooted in the engineering that you'd have to basically start from scratch in order to fix it?

yes. nobody has ever made a gun like it before. the serialized part is a removable trigger and rail module, which slots into the frame of the gun like some kind of modular sci-fi tokarev. this is also why the gun is cool but it may also be introducing a lot of stacking tolerance problems that are difficult to diagnose because what used to be 1 part is now 5 and those smaller parts are being manufactured in india.

 

[God's drunkest driver]

In addition, the below.

may I ask how exactly sig fucked up the p320 so hard in the first place? to my understanding it's just a striker-fired descendant of the p250 which (while fairly obscure) didn't seem to get shit on as much. a striker-fired polymer-framed pistol isn't exactly anything new anymore either, and sig (while now incompetent) hasn't always been that way.
I kinda understand how the drop fire stuff started, I mean mistakes (even really big and stupid ones) unfortunately do happen. but even with that upgrade program in 2017 they still didn't fix it and that was 8 fucking years ago.
is it because the design flaw is so deeply rooted in the engineering that you'd have to basically start from scratch in order to fix it? because clearly the band-aid solution hasn't worked.

They stuck a striker-fired fire control group in a little frame in what is basically an adapted hammer fired gun's chassis, while trying to avoid similarity to other guns on the market which almost all feature trigger safeties and plunger style striker safeties that are actuated by the trigger bar. The sear engagement is also limited.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

may I ask how exactly sig fucked up the p320 so hard in the first place?

Adding to the above, Sig is notorious for not completing their designs before production. Updates are performed throughout the lifespan of a product resulting in uncertainty when seeking parts for repairs.
The P320 was definitely half-baked like all of their other designs hence it going off without warning starting in 2016, two years after it was released.

 

[Seafarer]

Viet Cong handmade Luger

 

[big pauper]

sig ? ... heh , nothing personnel , kid . the real big dogs dont win military contracts ...

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[WhoBusTank69]

I feel the paralysis of analysis with ARs specifically because there's just so many manufacturers, and because of that there's all sorts of splitting of hairs about it.

I don't have the means to go into this kind of detail. I don't know if my build is completely in spec or whatever, it feels unnerving compared to my pistols. How much does it cost for someone to do a proper QC anyway?

I think it's come up before, and he possibly brings it up between his nitpicking "optimization" or whatever, but this amount of autism is unwarranted unless it impacts the primary functions of the rifle. He annoys me so much and is a massive negative impact on shooters.