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With most pistols with 1911ish grip angles, I can practically get sights on target with my eyes closed. It's just muscle memory
its more than muscle memory. The 1911 was designed as a cavalry pistol which meant it needed to point extremely well since you aren't aligning the sights at a gallop. The Single action army had the same requirements and its the most natural feeling and balanced handgun ever made.
 
They almost universally recommend against .38 +p+ as there is still not, and probably never will be a standard set down by SAAMI. Most +p+ loads in .38 special are equal to proof loads.
Are there any +p+ .38s outside of the old treasury load (and its associated variants)? I know one Californian Agency adopted a specific revolver specifically for the load (Model 68).
 
Are there any +p+ .38s outside of the old treasury load (and its associated variants)? I know one Californian Agency adopted a specific revolver specifically for the load (Model 68).
As far as i can recall most manufacturers offered a +p+ load due to demand from the law enforcement market. As bullet tech progressed the need for high velocities to ensure expansion from 2 inch barrels lessened. development of the +p+ started because the standard hollow point of the day, the 158gr LSWCH had (and has) excellent performance of criminals out of service size revolvers (4 inch barrels or more) but did not expand at all when fired out of the Snubs that the treasury department issued. Whichester built on the early experimentation of Super-vel and came out with the Q4070 loading for treasury. the boxes had a interesting disclaimer on the flaps:
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Winchester still makes this load under the RA3811HP sku under the Ranger line. the info in the pick above still stands. its 15-20% higher than +p pressures. here is the spec sheet for the current load:
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New Springfield PDW. Imported from Croatia, apparently. Proprietary mags, but they're supposed to be twenty-five bucks a pop. They're aiming for about a grand.

Might be great, might be shit, but it's nice to see more delayed-blowback PCCs coming out.
The press embargo has been removed and all the videos are dropping at once, so we're getting the first views since SHOT. It's a sequel to the Hellion drop in that it's going to be everywhere for roughly 24 hours.
 
New Springfield PDW. Imported from Croatia, apparently. Proprietary mags, but they're supposed to be twenty-five bucks a pop. They're aiming for about a grand.

Might be great, might be shit, but it's nice to see more delayed-blowback PCCs coming out.
it might be cool. it's priced to compete with those MAC MP5 clones and that roller delay will outperform something like 9mm AR. that magwell and proprietary magazine looks gross to me though
 
It confuses me how pathetic the velocity and energy figures are, for a +P+ load. Snubs make even standard factory load .38s sound obnoxious, so I wonder how many miles away one could hear this round being discharged.
.38 is really pitiful in the velocity department hence why many loads have trouble with expansion. Looking at the Lucky Gunner testing, it appears the Treasury load does a lot better out of a service revolver (1110 in a 4" vs. 972 in a 2") than it does a snub, comparatively most other .38 +p loads get anywhere from the low 800s to mid 900s out of a 4 inch. Interestingly the second fastest load was a 110gr Hornady +P at 1058. Makes me wonder if Hornady is really pushing the limit of "+P" or if the Treasury load needs even more barrel length to reach optimum velocity (iirc the model 68s had a 6" barrel).
Edit: The Lucky Gunner tests in question.
 
It's time for gun store bingo!

✅ No in store inventory online or online ship to store portal
✅ No information on online transfers
✅ Physical store is open weird hours or by appointment only
✅Call and they say they have one (it's a lie)
✅ Go into the store for the gun you're looking for and they don't have it
✅Old guy talks your head off with common knowledge and misconceptions. Thinks that you know nothing
✅Told you don't really want the gun you're shopping for anyway
✅"Well we can order it but it would be insane markup from MSRP or you can order it online and our transfer fee is $60. It'll take months if you order from us btw"

Yeah, I am just going to have to order it from some dealer on gun.deals to the cheapest transfer cost local shop. I don't have the fucking time to be calling around and driving to every single gun store to look for something that isn't some boutique special thing. I hate gun stores so much it's unreal.

:null: Woe iz me I am but a small bisness ownah. I can't compete wif dose big badguys. PWEASE PAY $500 FOR A $400 GUN. WHERE ELSE WILL YOU GET YOUR OVERPRICED AMMO AND MAGAZINES (we only carry Glock and Sig mags btw those are $60 for a p365 magazine)
 
It's time for gun store bingo!

✅ No in store inventory online or online ship to store portal
✅ No information on online transfers
✅ Physical store is open weird hours or by appointment only
✅Call and they say they have one (it's a lie)
✅ Go into the store for the gun you're looking for and they don't have it
✅Old guy talks your head off with common knowledge and misconceptions. Thinks that you know nothing
✅Told you don't really want the gun you're shopping for anyway
✅"Well we can order it but it would be insane markup from MSRP or you can order it online and our transfer fee is $60. It'll take months if you order from us btw"

Yeah, I am just going to have to order it from some dealer on gun.deals to the cheapest transfer cost local shop. I don't have the fucking time to be calling around and driving to every single gun store to look for something that isn't some boutique special thing. I hate gun stores so much it's unreal.

:null: Woe iz me I am but a small bisness ownah. I can't compete wif dose big badguys. PWEASE PAY $500 FOR A $400 GUN. WHERE ELSE WILL YOU GET YOUR OVERPRICED AMMO AND MAGAZINES (we only carry Glock and Sig mags btw those are $60 for a p365 magazine)
A store near me is offering the INSANE BLAZING DEAL of $650 for 1k rounds of PMC bronze 223. That's before tax and tip. They sell a single box for $15.
 
A store near me is offering the INSANE BLAZING DEAL of $650 for 1k rounds of PMC bronze 223. That's before tax and tip. They sell a single box for $15.
One time during covid I was looking for 32ACP. I knew I wouldn't find any. I had the audacity to walk into this guy's shop, ask him, he said he doesn't, I make a small comment about how it's not as common anymore and he spergs out. He starts quizzing me on what is a common caliber and how 32acp is just as common as 9mm. I just sort of stared at him and said he's got a nice place and I'd never been in before. Another mistake, he now starts sperging out about how people from our of state come here and he's super popular and has the largest selection in the area (it's basically a medium sized manufactured outbuilding in his backyard). When I say sperging I legitimately mean it. Anger and all.

I actually went back a couple times because his transfer fees were low. He was the nicest dude the next time. Then the time after looked at me like an alien because I said red dots aren't perfect dots for me when I asked to look at one and seemed suspicious of me. I think he's autistic
 
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