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Bogliacci said:
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Zamn, this really is a pretty gun. Some goober paid $75 to send it back to Ruger to get fixed up and when he got it back decided to just sell it to the shop, picked it up for real decent price.
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Ah a Ruger P series. My old man has one. Eats just about any ammo. If you tell me I have to have a 9mm, it's the P series first and a Beretta 92 second
 
MrJokerRager said:
CA DOJ deciding to recently buttfuck NRA instructors
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it's going to be extremely difficult for CA DOJ to get firearms instructors that don't already exist. 90%+ instructors and armorers in the state (possibly the country) are NRA certified and maintain that, although serious instructors generally have multiple certificates - i am an NRA certified instructor alongside 3 other qualifications. so while annoying, this technically doesn't affect me other than changing paperwork.

regardless of your feelings on NRA leadership politics and Wayne's cuckery, the NRA instructor program, much like the NRA-ILA is legitimately good, reasonable, and offers excellent services and support. leadership in several departments i know are functionally just going to ignore Bonta on this: either they'll continue to use their current certified instructor and change the paperwork on record for a different certification (DCM, FLETC, or one of the many already accredited instructors through the Dept of Consumer Affairs and accredited schools) or they'll sponsor a POST student to complete the armory, instructor, and rangemaster courses, which is already done for specialized trainers for ERT or SWAT. there is nothing from stopping that POST certified instructor from attending training courses hosted by the NRA and passing on the knowledge.

i guarantee you this will increase training fees though since the NRA subsidizes all manner of safety training and charges agreed on rates to LE agencies instead of market rates (or a peace officer's pay scale...).

WelperHelper99 said:
Ruger P
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P85 and P89 will do Cor-Bon +P 9mm ammo all day long. extremely robust pistols, the P95 a little less so, but it's more tolerant of steel cased ammo than the older pistols thanks to modified chamber geometry. shout out to the S&W 3rd and 4th gen autos are on my short list of favorite pistols if i had to narrow down my "gotta get home" pistol to a handful of choices.
 
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Club Sandwich said:
it is if you plan for daily concealed carry. Big Foot belts, Versa Carry, Tony Llama, Galls, Safariland, Aker etc. you want a 1.5" stiff leather belt, tooled, steer hide, et c and go 2" longer than normal if you plan on IWB to go alongside a slightly larger waist size on the pants. the belt must fit and work with your pants and the stiffness is vital since the holster and firearm will ride on the edge of the belt and you don't want it to curl, tear, or sag. generally you want the belt and holster to work with you and supporting your preferred carry and presentation style, don't force yourself into something uncomfortable or unnatural where you have to hesitate to think about it much.
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I endorse separate gun belts. wide, sturdy and comfortable.
 
A quality belt is a game changer weather you carry or not.
I rigid belt also offers support as well as a platform for carrying things
It is much more than just holding your pants up.
I own and wear a Kore Essentials belt everyday.
It's not a cheap belt but how often are you going to be buying them?
Get a good one, cry about the price then get on with your life.
Kore
 
buddy was doing some holiday shooting of 7.62x39mm M67 "Tela Ammo" from Azerbaijan and between 3 experienced shooters it seems interchangeable with Barnaul or Golden Tiger ammo in terms of quality. i hope they get some 5.45x39mm into the market with the same quality. BPS Turkish 9mm 124gr SKU BPS9MM124FMJ seems to be 9mm NATO by another name. regularly hitting 1150+ f/s from full sized handgun barrels. didn't have more than a couple hundred but had a similar "feel" to S&B ammo in terms of function and cleaning.
 
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Pocket Dragoon said:
I think it's even heavier than the wood to begin with, but overall balance & handling was much improved. Which impressed me, because the SKS is already a well-balanced & easy-handling rifle.
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I'm also impressed to hear that, because I handled an SKS in some plastic stock once, don't recall if it was a Ramline or maybe something else, and the gun felt kinda front-heavy. I guess they don't make their stocks as hollow flimsy plastic.

WelperHelper99 said:
If I ever get a SKS that's already been modded, I'll think of installing that
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I've toyed with the idea of digging up some bubba'd SKS somewhere and using that as a base for an AK magazine conversion, then, I don't know, trying make an imitation of the "A-Team" Mini-14 stock out of a chunk of wood and maybe a leftover Vz.58 or FAL folding stock or something. I have no real skills with working wood or metal, so that means either becoming bubba myself or trying to find a craftsman to help me achieve it.

POWER IN MISERY said:
is a belt for carrying worth it?
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A good belt is always worth it in general. For carrying, I think you can get by with just carrying one spare reload kinda however, as long as it's secure on your person. I know that you're statistically unlikely to need more than just a few shots ever if you ever actually had to shoot, but I feel just a single spare magazine or speed loader would easily cover so many statistical outliers without problems.

Club Sandwich said:
shout out to the S&W 3rd and 4th gen autos are on my short list of favorite pistols
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I've always liked them, I should get one some day.
 
ChampFantana said:
Did Beretta ever make a full-size M 9 series variant in Best Millimeter?
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no, but gunsmiths have converted Beretta 96's to 10mm.

Edit: the conversion is done by removing material from the inside of the mag well for a EAA witness 10mm mag to fit because the standard .40 mag is too short. then a new barrel is made and in theory you are good to go.
there are some issues though:
  • the slide does not cycle back far enough for you to top load the chamber and likes to jam on ejection because of the lack of space for the ejecting case
  • the amount of material removed inside the frame may cause weakness
  • 10mm is of course higher pressure than .40 (when loaded properly) and is cutting into the safety margin of the locking block
Beretta could definitely make a 10mm 96 work properly if they wanted to IMO, but it would likely require more than a simple conversion for them to be happy with it. it'd more likely be a new model entirely.
 
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Romulus augustulus said:
no, but gunsmiths have converted Beretta 96's to 10mm.

Edit: the conversion is done by removing material from the inside of the mag well for a EAA witness 10mm mag to fit because the standard .40 mag is too short. then a new barrel is made and in theory you are good to go.
there are some issues though:
  • the slide does not cycle back far enough for you to top load the chamber and likes to jam on ejection because of the lack of space for the ejecting case
  • the amount of material removed inside the frame may cause weakness
  • 10mm is of course higher pressure than .40 (when loaded properly) and is cutting into the safety margin of the locking block
Beretta could definitely make a 10mm 96 work properly if they wanted to IMO, but it would likely require more than a simple conversion for them to be happy with it. it'd more likely be a new model entirely.
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Thanks for the info! I'd LOVE if Beretta made a 96 in Best Mil, but I doubt it will ever happen.
 
ChampFantana said:
Thanks for the info! I'd LOVE if Beretta made a 96 in Best Mil, but I doubt it will ever happen.
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I really wish Vltor would have been able to bring their Bren Ten project to fruition when they were working on it about fifteen years ago. Or at the very least someone would have bought the tooling and had been able to bring it to market. I was bummed when that project went nowhere.
 
The Dude said:
I really wish Vltor would have been able to bring their Bren Ten project to fruition when they were working on it about fifteen years ago. Or at the very least someone would have bought the tooling and had been able to bring it to market. I was bummed when that project went nowhere.
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Oh shit, I never even knew someone was even attempting doing it again. Now I'm sad.

For those to young to remember the 80's
 
LGHDR+ said:
Oh shit, I never even knew someone was even attempting doing it again. Now I'm sad.

For those to young to remember the 80's
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Yeah, about fifteen years ago Vltor had some really nice prototypes at SHOT Show. The plan was to make the classic stainless Bren Ten, a compact model, some blued/black models, and I think even more modern versions with light rails. Offer them in both 10mm Auto and .45 ACP. Then the project died and no one wanted to buy all the R&D, tooling, etc. that Vltor had already put into the project. From what I remember they were nearly ready to go to market and they just needed to work a few bugs out.

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There apparently has been a new development from Kalashnikov Concern in Russia. The AK-22 in 6.02x41mm. Notice the different magazine geometry
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The new 6.02 mm cartridge is the one on the left I believe
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Energy and Speed over distance are said to be much superior than either 7.62 or 5.45
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The Cartridge has also been made to work with a miniaturized version of the SVCh sniper rifle
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The sourcing for all of this is the Russian Language gunblog Kalashnikov.ru, below is a Yandex translated article describing this new development (the headline is in Russian, the body is in English)

Also apparently the Russian's had an experimental 6.8x51 cartridge long before we did?
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Many of you may have seen this video

But have you seen this image?
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Or this myspace post?

I have been informed by a semi reliable (when it comes to these sorts of things0 tripfag, A2Grip, of the illustrious /arg/ of /k/ that the following products will be seen at SHOT 24'
-An updated Vortex Venom MRDS, might be RMR footprint.
-New Tripods from Vortex
-A "Deltapoint carbine optic" presumably from Leupold
-Nightforce NX6 LPVO
-New BCM MCMR Handguard, upgraded mounting method to increase rigidity.

There is a new unbelievably fast varmint cartridge, The .20 Primal. 5000+fps with a 32gr bullet out of a 22'' barrel
 
The Dude said:
Yeah, about fifteen years ago Vltor had some really nice prototypes at SHOT Show. The plan was to make the classic stainless Bren Ten, a compact model, some blued/black models, and I think even more modern versions with light rails. Offer them in both 10mm Auto and .45 ACP. Then the project died and no one wanted to buy all the R&D, tooling, etc. that Vltor had already put into the project. From what I remember they were nearly ready to go to market and they just needed to work a few bugs out.

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I dislike the cross bolt safety in the slide, otherwise this could have been interesting.

I remember CZ Custom did a 97BD in 10mm. I missed that because no way in hell I could afford one. Later when I had some money I looked for a EAA Witness Elite Match in 10mm but those apparently ceased to exist. Hence I had to become a 10mm 1911 faggot.
 
AGPinochet said:
There is a new unbelievably fast varmint cartridge, The .20 Primal. 5000+fps with a 32gr bullet out of a 22'' barrel
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Those are some seriously impressive numbers. Those barrels are going to burn out very quickly with shooting anything close to that velocity. Would be a great varmint gun though if a 22-250 just doesn't have the range you like or drops too much.

Speaking of wildcats and fast cartridges. Anybody got a recommendation for a decent quality single stage press? Already got a Dillon SDB for pistol rounds, but would like to reload some 22-250. Was going to pick up a RCBS Rock Chucker years ago, but never got around to it.
 
Dean Pentel said:
I dislike the cross bolt safety in the slide, otherwise this could have been interesting.

I remember CZ Custom did a 97BD in 10mm. I missed that because no way in hell I could afford one. Later when I had some money I looked for a EAA Witness Elite Match in 10mm but those apparently ceased to exist. Hence I had to become a 10mm 1911 faggot.
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EAA lost the rights to import tangfolio guns so now they are imported by IFG under a different name. but they are the same thing.
here is their importer page.
 
Yandex Captcha Solver said:
Speaking of wildcats and fast cartridges. Anybody got a recommendation for a decent quality single stage press?
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I have experience with two I can recommend: the Redding Big Boss and the Forster Co-Ax. Both are good but I recommend the Forster much more highly if you can afford it. If it's not wildly out of reach I think it's fully worth a stretch, maybe some credit card debt or something.
 
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