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Falcos_Commisar said:
Washing your hands in lead killer soap 🧼 and washing your range clothes by themselves 2x, once in lead killer detergent and once on normal detergent is what you want.

Or use those anti lead wipes.

Hearing pro.... Double up. Plugs and a basic electronic earmuff should keep your hearing A OK.

I have glasses and the frame arms each make a little hole in the earmuff cups, which is why I jae plugs.

Now if I had the cash for the really fancy in ear mold electric plugs I'd probably just use their but they're $350+ easy
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I've never considered de-leading detergent, does it make a big difference? I'm cooked if it does.
 
Thugnificent said:
I've never considered de-leading detergent, does it make a big difference? I'm cooked if it does.
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If you work at an indoor range or use one more than once every other week or so, yes.

The lead you're getting is actually from the primers going off (they have lead in there) and from the base of FMJ rounds or the base and sides of cast lead rounds.

The best thing you can do for lead is to minimize exposure as best you can and do NOT eat or drink inside and indoor range.

Also, vitamin supplements of vitamin C, calcium, magnesium and iron will keep your bones from sucking lead up.

Note that anyone born in the West after ~1980 has had FAR less lead exposure than anyone born from ~1930 till 1975 due to the absolutely demonic shit known as leaded gasoline.
 
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Polock said:
After reading up on some of the literature posted earlier in the thread I am absolutely convinced that if you are shooting at an indoor range, a suppressor (or at least a linear compensator) is as important for your long term health as hearing protection, washing your hands after shooting, and probably more important than eye protection (if we are playing the odds).

If youre someone who shoots more than 1 box of ammo a year but only have access to an indoor firing range, you should be pretty fucking serious about getting a can.
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Maybe, but also maybe negated by the fact that with many rifles, the silencer means you're getting a nice increase in leaded fumes to your face with every shot.

Also, as a general point and not necessarily directed at you specifically: if you aren't wearing ear plugs under your earmuffs, and if your ear muffs have a NRR under 30dB, you need to take the tactical helmet off and put your thinking cap on. I avoid indoor ranges, but every time I'm at one there are some dipshits wearing low profile electronic earmuffs which are substandard even for hunting.
 
I want ears to ring less and my brain to be less mushy when I'm older. Rifle suppressors are basically a requirement for me to shoot more than a handful of rounds at an indoor ranges now(yes I double up on ear pro). And a lower back-pressure can plus adequate de-leading cuts down on the soot ingestion, when/if I get to the point of significant indoor rifle shooting I'll bring a couple face masks too.

The cool factor of 'gun make loud noise' for anything below .50 BMG wore off years ago.
 
Rabbi Yeshua Moon said:
I don't know how you're getting negrated for this unless these people are only using bolt guns. 11 mags per range trip isn't some insane amount.
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the reason i negrated it was because he was saying why it would not work for him and missing who it could work for, while also throwing in a dumb brag.

if all i wanted a can for was home defense without blowing my hearing out a 3$ printed can could save my hearing, it does not need to be attached to my gun when i train with it. just like i don't only shoot hollow points when i practice .

now that we have 0$ transfers it can make some sense. i also just want to see the number of cans in circulation (even if just on paper) go up. we are getting closer to common use every day.


on the suppressor durability issue, are there actually metal cans that dont last? i dont think i have ever once heard someone refer to a can as a consumable, and lots of mfg's offer great warranty's, my ruggeds have great warranty, will fix them for any reason for free.


i just like having a can for the cool factor, also great for dispatching a possum or coon without waking up the neighborhood
 
BikeLock said:
Hey now, I have a 5946 and its great! One of the best DA only triggers on a handgun that I've ever fired that wasn't a revolver.

But yeah, they would give us those instead of something cool like ASPs, 1006's and 1076's.
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I'm similarly a fan of my 5906. Yeah, it's a hilariously chonky piece of stainless steel, but damn, it's a nice shooting gun with a fantastic DA/SA trigger and absolutely classic aesthetics. Sure - my plastic guns are better as practical guns (particularly for carry), but I'm keeping that 90's action movie gun forever.
 
code123 said:
on the suppressor durability issue, are there actually metal cans that dont last? i dont think i have ever once heard someone refer to a can as a consumable, and lots of mfg's offer great warranty's, my ruggeds have great warranty, will fix them for any reason for free.
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The only one I've seen with an advertised lifespan was a rimfire can that was also rated for 5.56. DeskPop did a burndown on one, they're rated for up to 3 rounds of 5.56 per minute, up to 500 rounds for the lifetime of the can. They ran it with an FRT until it exploded and it still lasted several mags so I think it's probably a conservative rating. Tried to find the video but didn't find it in the two seconds I was willing to invest into looking so I can't tell you the brand/model but at least in the very niche sub-space that suppressor fills it would be considered semi-consumable (presumably it lasts basically forever with 22lr even after the 500 rounds of 5.56)
 
This suppressor talk is really interesting to me as in Finland suppressors aren't regulated. Though even here the culture has been changing more towards the direction of "cans everywhere" which it already had been in the hunting circles, but now with more and more people getting into practical shooting, having a can starts to be a nobrainer decision. Not just because of your own hearing, but because of everyone around you.

I just recently listened to one of those Polenar Tactical podcast videos and Ziga of Polenar talked about this. In Slovenia suppressors became unregulated couple years back and one of the biggest pro-can arguments there was the noise pollution. With towns and villages everywhere and not wanting to disturb the animals and friends in the forests, the places where you could shoot without disturbing anyone would be rare as hell. You don't have to be in Slovenia to see this applying basically everywhere to avoid ornery folk sending complaints about loud popping noises. And this was just the argument concerning people not in the shooting and guns hobby, I don't think it is needed to point out how cans help your friends and your co-shooters to keep their hearing.

Related to hearing protection. I remember reading about an unofficial study done with the Finnish conscripts. The researcher placed bunch of microphones in the room where several dozen conscripts were doing dryfiring drills and the researcher found out that when all of them racked the bolts at the same time, the decibels peaked high enough to be in the hearing damage levels. Now was anything done about this, my understanding is no, but it is a good example how some very simple thing that people just don't think about can cause a bit of harm.
 
TheOtherSideofMakeBelieve said:
The only one I've seen with an advertised lifespan was a rimfire can that was also rated for 5.56. DeskPop did a burndown on one, they're rated for up to 3 rounds of 5.56 per minute, up to 500 rounds for the lifetime of the can. They ran it with an FRT until it exploded and it still lasted several mags so I think it's probably a conservative rating. Tried to find the video but didn't find it in the two seconds I was willing to invest into looking so I can't tell you the brand/model but at least in the very niche sub-space that suppressor fills it would be considered semi-consumable (presumably it lasts basically forever with 22lr even after the 500 rounds of 5.56)
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It's the Griffin Optimus, it's a gimmick imo, unless you plan on throwing it on your .223 bolt action (lol).


SiCo's Switchback is my .22lr can, love the different configs for rifle vs pistol
 
code123 said:
if all i wanted a can for was home defense without blowing my hearing out a 3$ printed can could save my hearing,
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If you had to buy a 3D printer to make the can, it’s not really a $3 can. Not to mention if you had to buy a computer to drive the printer.
code123 said:
the reason i negrated it was because he was saying why it would not work for him and missing who it could work for, while also throwing in a dumb brag.
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1000 round in 3 range trips isn’t really a brag. It’s pretty normal actually. Maybe less normal in the frequency in which I go to the range, but I forgo things that others don’t to make that happen.


On the subject of these plastic cans, I wonder how much microplastics are being inhaled along with the other toxic gasses from running suppressed?
 
Laminated Flooring Panel said:
This suppressor talk is really interesting to me as in Finland suppressors aren't regulated. Though even here the culture has been changing more towards the direction of "cans everywhere" which it already had been in the hunting circles, but now with more and more people getting into practical shooting, having a can starts to be a nobrainer decision. Not just because of your own hearing, but because of everyone around you.

I just recently listened to one of those Polenar Tactical podcast videos and Ziga of Polenar talked about this. In Slovenia suppressors became unregulated couple years back and one of the biggest pro-can arguments there was the noise pollution. With towns and villages everywhere and not wanting to disturb the animals and friends in the forests, the places where you could shoot without disturbing anyone would be rare as hell. You don't have to be in Slovenia to see this applying basically everywhere to avoid ornery folk sending complaints about loud popping noises. And this was just the argument concerning people not in the shooting and guns hobby, I don't think it is needed to point out how cans help your friends and your co-shooters to keep their hearing.

Related to hearing protection. I remember reading about an unofficial study done with the Finnish conscripts. The researcher placed bunch of microphones in the room where several dozen conscripts were doing dryfiring drills and the researcher found out that when all of them racked the bolts at the same time, the decibels peaked high enough to be in the hearing damage levels. Now was anything done about this, my understanding is no, but it is a good example how some very simple thing that people just don't think about can cause a bit of harm.
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Yeah, here in Britain if you have access to firearms you have access to suppressors, and the only guns of mine I don't shoot suppressed are those which don't have threaded barrels.

Once you're getting into big boy it's the polite thing to do. Having been on a firing point next to people shooting with a honking great brake it's fucking obnoxious and I don't want any more TBI than I already have.

I actually have a Finnish can on my .308, ASE Ultra make some good shit.
 
Thugnificent said:
It's the Griffin Optimus, it's a gimmick imo, unless you plan on throwing it on your .223 bolt action (lol).

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Honestly I thought it sounded handy for a farm gun. Not a selling point in and of itself, but if you have a rifle you carry in your truck/ATV to pop bigger pests with you might as well throw it on if you already have it since it's not much more expensive than any other rimfire can. Definitely a useless gimmick for 99% of people but living near a lot of farms I hear gunshots all the time and if getting suppressors wasn't such a pain I'm sure the landowners would use them, and all but one person that I know who actually have them only have rimfire cans
 
Pretend To Imagine said:
If you had to buy a 3D printer to make the can, it’s not really a $3 can. Not to mention if you had to buy a computer to drive the printer.
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you are so fucking retarded bro, what sort of gotcha even is this?

Suppressors are expendable items. Retards like you fall for marketing tactics by companies that want to sell a extremely high margin, low cost to manufacture item as an "investment" because firearms are largely a hobby centered around passive consumption.

3D printing makes the economies of scale work especially for sub-rifle calibers. This isn't an argument it's objective reality and the technology and techniques are only going to improve.
 
TheOtherSideofMakeBelieve said:
Honestly I thought it sounded handy for a farm gun. Not a selling point in and of itself, but if you have a rifle you carry in your truck/ATV to pop bigger pests with you might as well throw it on if you already have it since it's not much more expensive than any other rimfire can. Definitely a useless gimmick for 99% of people but living near a lot of farms I hear gunshots all the time and if getting suppressors wasn't such a pain I'm sure the landowners would use them, and all but one person that I know who actually have them only have rimfire cans
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If you are seriously down this bad, you aren't looking into NFA purchases anyway, especially not when $200 tax stamps were a thing. Everyone else will have a dedicated rimfire suppressor and a dedicated centerfire one, and will never think to mix the two if they value their vision or limbs.

You can also get by on just using a centerfire rifle can for rimfire assuming you don't over-do it and shoot a couple supers through it at the end of the range trip, and it's not like they're impossible to dunk into a supersonic cleaner.
 
888Flux said:
you are so fucking retarded bro, what sort of gotcha even is this?

Suppressors are expendable items. Retards like you fall for marketing tactics by companies that want to sell a extremely high margin, low cost to manufacture item as an "investment" because firearms are largely a hobby centered around passive consumption.

3D printing makes the economies of scale work especially for sub-rifle calibers. This isn't an argument it's objective reality and the technology and techniques are only going to improve.
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I said in my post suppressors are generally a waste of money.

Spend hundreds of dollars on a 3D printer and computer to print literal garbage “because it’s cheap” is peak consumerism as is autistically collecting firearms.
 
Pretend To Imagine said:
I said in my post suppressors are generally a waste of money.

Spend hundreds of dollars on a 3D printer and computer to print literal garbage “because it’s cheap” is peak consumerism as is autistically collecting firearms.
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Autistically collecting firearms you say.... Uh oh 😳 literally me fr fr

Well my collection is carefully planned out and not autistic at all.....

Speaking of autism, every video featuring a new S&W revolver these days has a sperg sperging about revolver QC ... Are they really THAT BAD?

I have a ~2023 production Model 60 and a ~2022/2023 production Model 617 and a ~2023/2024 Model 66 Combat Magnum and they're just fine IMHO....
 
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