Morality - Objective or Not?

[Getting tard comed]

Curious whether or not you kiwis believe in objective morality or not? Maybe it's all subjective? I have a hard time conceptualizing any objective standard without an outside arbitrator existing to set the standard outside of the game we call life but am open to hearing how it's possible. Or hearing that it's not and there's no there there.

 

[Aurora]

There's a thread for this already, I think.

 

[TwinkLover6969]

Morality is for fags

 

[Hylics]

Objective morality is based.

 

[Penis Drager]

This thread already exists. But to give a short answer:
Morality is a lot like beauty. There might not really be any right answers, but there sure as fuck are wrong answers.

 

[Getting tard comed]

There's a thread for this already, I think.

Could not find it. I'd like to read it.

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

PENIS

 

[DDBCAE CBAADCBE]

Your mum is objectively a whore.

 

[Cold Root Beer]

Morality is largely subjective, I feel. In terms of the objective portions of morality, I feel it depends on your definition of objective.

I think a lot of the morality encoded into us is due to evolutionary factors. For example, incest. The vast majority of people revile engaging in incest, and so do many species of animals. But the species that don't have any natural avoidance of breeding with their offspring are species that don't experience an inbreeding depression. The ones that do naturally avoid incest are the species which do experience an inbreeding depression.

This can be seen in other behaviors as well, like cannibalism, monogamy, and collectivism. So I feel that a lot of morality was naturally conditioned by evolutionary outcomes.

So, it's objective in terms of outcome (breeding with your close relatives is going to lead to offspring with increasingly shitty recessive traits), but it's subjective in that I don't feel that humans always had those instincts as a species, it was just naturally conditioned and reinforced into them over many, many generations, if that makes any sense.

 

[ZombiefiedFerret]

Bruh imagine having moralily lmao

 

[Smug Chuckler]

it's objective if there is a god.

 

[MediocreMilt]

I have a hard time conceptualizing any objective standard without an outside arbitrator existing to set the standard

That's just a morality subjective to the outside arbitrator's perspective.

 

[Just wandering]

we're social creature, I think it natural that we think anti social behavior like murder and thief is amoral

 

[Gun Safety]

I’d like to see a professional academic who believes morality to be subjective say “Well, some people think the holocaust was really bad, others don’t think so, but in the end it’s just your opinion.”

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

Morality is a spook.

 

[TheSkyrimAddict]

Is Truth objective? Yes.
Can morality be objective if truth is subjective? No.

Can morality be subjective when truth is objective?
There's your answer.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

I think it is subjective and situational.

 

[Otterly]

Morality is the response to caused loss. Various smaller things change with culture and time but the main this is don’t cause loss to others.
Loss of property, loss of social standing, loss of loved ones, loss of health, or bodily integrity. Loss of land etc. loss of honor,
It’s all about our response to others causing us loss.

 

[ITK]

Morality is objective and not derived from divine command either.

 

[Lowlife Adventures]

Objective in the sense that there are first principles that majority of the entire world would agree should be followed. Subjective in the sense that these first principles aren't strictly objective i.e. based on some immaterial divine force. Instead it's ultimately based on people wanting to feel good + not wanting to feel bad (so on biology). But that's a really nitpicky way of claiming subjectivity. IMO it is, for practical purposes, objective.