MPs vote in favour of measures to decriminalise abortion in move to make biggest law change in more than 50 years - "Women will no longer face prosecution for aborting their own baby for any reason and at any stage up to birth under the proposed legislation, which was backed by 379 votes to 137 on Tuesday night. "

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MPs have voted in favour of measures to decriminalise women terminating their own pregnancies in the biggest change to the law on reproductive rights for half a century.

Women will no longer face prosecution for aborting their own baby for any reason and at any stage up to birth under the proposed legislation, which was backed by 379 votes to 137 on Tuesday night.

Tonia Antoniazzi, the Labour MP who put forward the amendment, said it will remove the threat of 'investigation, arrest, prosecution, or imprisonment' of any woman who acts in relation to her own pregnancy.

She told the Commons the current 'Victorian' abortion law in England and Wales is 'increasingly used against vulnerable women' and said her amendment was a 'once-in-a-generation' opportunity to change the law.

Ms Antoniazzi's amendment will be the biggest change to the law concerning women's reproductive rights since the 1967 Abortion Act.

It will alter the 1861 Offences Against the Person Act - which outlawed abortion - meaning it would no longer apply to women aborting their own babies.

MPs and pro-choice activists welcomed the abortion vote and said it will finally put an end to the prosecution of vulnerable women for ending their own pregnancies.

But anti-abortion campaigners and MPs opposed to the reforms said the move allows women to end the life of their unborn child right up to birth, and for any reason, without facing repercussions.

Under Ms Antoniazzi's amendment women will no longer be prosecuted for an abortion when it relates to their own pregnancy, even if they abort their own baby without medical approval or after the current 24-week legal limit.

However it maintains criminal punishments for doctors who carry out abortions beyond the legal limit and abusive partners who end a woman's pregnancy without her consent.

Ms Antoniazzi listed examples of women who have recently been investigated or prosecuted for having an abortion, adding: 'Just what public interest is this serving? This is not justice. It is cruelty, and it has got to end.'

'Women affected are often acutely vulnerable victims of domestic abuse and violence, human trafficking and sexual exploitation, girls under the age of 18 and women who have suffered miscarriage,' she said.

Six women have appeared in court in the last three years charged with ending or attempting to end their own pregnancy - a crime with a maximum sentence of life imprisonment - while others remain under investigation.

Tory MP Rebecca Paul said she was 'disturbed' by the decriminalisation amendment, which will mean that 'fully developed babies up to term could be aborted by a woman with no consequences'.

'The reason we criminalise late term abortion is not about punishment. It's about protection,' she added. 'By providing a deterrent to such actions, we protect women.

'We protect them from trying to perform an abortion at home that is unsafe for them. We protect them from coercive partners and family members who may push them to end late term pregnancies.'

Conservative MP Rebecca Smith told the Commons she the amendment risks 'creating a series of unintended consequences which could endanger women rather than protect and empower them'.

'If offences that make it illegal for a woman to administer her own abortion at any gestation were repealed, such abortions would de facto become possible up to birth for any reason, including abortions for sex selective purposes.'

Meanwhile Dr Caroline Johnson, a Tory MP and consultant paediatrician, said the proposed legislation creates a 'situation where a woman is able to legally have an abortion up until term if she wants to'.

She tabled a separate amendment that would have made it mandatory for women seeking an abortion through the at-home 'pills by post' scheme introduced during the pandemic to have an in-person consultation with a doctor before they are prescribed the drugs.

However this was rejected last night as 379 MPs voted against it - the same number who backed decriminalising abortion.

Another amendment, put forward by Labour MP Stella Creasy, had also sought to repeal sections of the 1861 Act, decriminalise abortion up to 24 weeks, and ensure that late-term abortions did not result in prison sentences.

Ms Creasy's amendment would have gone go further in making it a human right for women to access abortion so that parliament could not, in future, roll back abortion rights as has happened in other countries.

However, Sir Lindsay only selected Ms Antoniazzi's to be debated by MPs this evening, which had more than 170 backers last night - compared to over 110 for Ms Creasy's.

During a Westminster Hall debate earlier this month, justice minister Alex Davies-Jones said the Government is neutral on decriminalisation and that it is an issue for Parliament to decide upon.

Though the Government took a neutral stance on the vote, several high-profile Cabinet ministers, including Energy Secretary Ed Miliband, were among the MPs who backed the amendment in the free vote.

Abortion in England and Wales currently remains a criminal offence but is legal with an authorised provider up to 24 weeks, with very limited circumstances allowing one after this time, such as when the mother's life is at risk or the child would be born with a severe disability.

It is also legal to take prescribed medication at home if a woman is less than 10 weeks pregnant.

Efforts to change the law to protect women from prosecution follow repeated calls to repeal sections of the 19th-century law the 1861 Offences Against the Person Act, after abortion was decriminalised in Northern Ireland in 2019.

The measures to decriminalise abortion, which still need to complete their legislative journey through both the Commons and the Lords before they can become law, were welcomed by leading abortion providers and physicians.

Heidi Stewart, chief executive of the British Pregnancy Advisory Service, BPAS, described it as a 'landmark moment for women's rights in this country'.

She said: 'There will be no more women investigated after enduring a miscarriage, no more women dragged from their hospital beds to the back of a police van, no more women separated from their children because of our archaic abortion law.'

It was welcomed by the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists, with its president Professor Ranee Thakar describing the vote as a 'victory for women and for their essential reproductive rights'.

And the British Medical Association also welcomed the vote as a 'significant and long overdue step towards reforming antiquated abortion law'.

But Alithea Williams, from the anti-abortion campaign group the Society for the Protection of Unborn Children (SPUC), said she was 'horrified that MPs have voted for this extreme and barbaric proposal'.

She added: 'This change has been made after only a few hours debate, with little notice. It was not in the Government's manifesto, and it certainly doesn't reflect public opinion.

'We call on the Lords to throw this undemocratic, barbaric proposal out when it reaches them. We will never accept a law that puts women in danger and removes all rights from unborn babies.'

How using medicines led to charges under 'outdated and harmful' laws​

Six women have appeared in court charged with ending or attempting to end their own pregnancy in the past three years.

These included Nicola Packer, 45, who was cleared last month by a jury of 'unlawfully administering' herself with abortion pills at home during lockdown in 2020.

Under emergency legislation in the pandemic, which has since been made permanent, the law was changed to allow the tablets to be taken in a system known as 'pills by post'.

This let women access the medicine with no visit to a clinic up to a legal limit of ten weeks, compared to the normal limit of 24 weeks when assessed by two doctors.

Ms Packer had taken prescribed abortion medicine when she was about 26 weeks pregnant. She told a court in London she did not realise she had been pregnant for more than ten weeks.

The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists said Ms Packer's trial demonstrated 'just how outdated and harmful' that existing abortion law was.

Another of these women is Carla Foster, 47, who was found guilty in June 2023 of illegally obtaining abortion tablets when she was between 32 and 34 weeks pregnant.

Ms Foster, from Staffordshire, was given the pills after claiming in a remote lockdown consultation she was only seven weeks pregnant.

A court heard she had lied to a nurse on the phone about how far along she was to obtain the drugs, after searching online: 'I need to have an abortion but I'm past 24 weeks.'

She pleaded guilty to a charge under the 1861 Offences Against the Person Act and got a 28-month sentence, with half to be spent in jail.

This was reduced to a 14-month suspended sentence on appeal with a judge saying the case called for 'compassion, not punishment'.

Ms Foster would not have faced prosecution under changes to laws approved last night.
 
How can this legislation be described as anything but pure evil? Baby murderers (yes, including those who seek abortions at any developmental stage, regardless of legality) should be punished at the full extent of the law and given the sentence worthy of mindless infanticide, death. I do not care if you come from poor or unfortunate circumstances, murdering a helpless baby is unjustifiable.

Also, what the hell is happening in the UK? Their staunch support of abortion must be affiliated with their desire to reduce the native British population.

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It is very funny to pass pro abortion legislation that will mostly affect the natives when the 1# baby name in london is muhammad.

Either way, any day where the bongs drive themselves closer to self extinction is a fine day to be alive. World will unironically be better off when britain is finally taken over by muslims and turns into a caliphate.
 
This is beyond the pale.

MFW


Maybe Islam is right about women. Maybe universal suffrage was a bad idea. I'm not against some women having rights. But maybe they should be forced to be tested on it. Like getting a license. Hell, that would be a good idea across the board for voting or being involved in politics. But the powers that be want a dumbed down populous who won't noticed when their so-called representatives vote for shit like this. And vote for taking your rights away in the disguise of freedoms. Not saying this abortion thing is that.

PJW commentary.
 
I can guarantee that any anti-abortion sentiments you unmarried moids hold would go out the window the moment your woman comes to you and tells you that she's pregnant. Then you'll be squealing about "biological blackmail" and "child support rape".
nobody ever going to fuck you femcel some people don't want children to be executed in the womb
 
I can guarantee that any anti-abortion sentiments you unmarried moids hold would go out the window the moment your woman comes to you and tells you that she's pregnant. Then you'll be squealing about "biological blackmail" and "child support rape".

Just for the sake of argument, what exactly is the case that can be made for legalizing a non-medically necessary abortion of a 40 week old fetus?

I'm asking in good faith because I've never actually heard that case made. I'm not religious so you can leave good/evil/god/lillith or whatever out of it, just state the logical case for making it legal to abort a fetus at 40 weeks if there isn't a medical reason to do so.

Also, please don't cop out by saying "no woman would ever do that", because: A) there would be no reason to make it legal if that were the case, and B) hundreds of kids already born are killed by their moms each year so it's not much of a stretch to think they'd kill them still in the womb if it was legal
 
I can guarantee that any anti-abortion sentiments you unmarried moids hold would go out the window the moment your woman comes to you and tells you that she's pregnant. Then you'll be squealing about "biological blackmail" and "child support rape".
I’m a woman. This is not good legislation. The law as was was fine - the UK didn’t have restrictive legislation, women can get abortions on demand up to 20 weeks and pretty much to birth with a genuine threat to their safety or severe foetal abnormality . There are no cases here of women dying due to not having abortions. The law was fine. There were VERY few late abortions, and the couple of percent that are later are almost exclusively wanted babies where something awful has gone wrong or late miscarriage/septic miscarriage that gets terminated medically to stop rhe mother dying.
What this opens the door to is self administered abortion late on, and that absolutely WILL kill women. It creates a condition whereby self administered abortion will be done, mainly via the pills by post stuff, and women will haemorrhage to death or die of sepsis following an incomplete abortion. It’s absolutely terrible legislation even just from a safety standpoint . There’s no moral or clinical reason to do this, it is just going result in death.
 
Just for the sake of argument, what exactly is the case that can be made for legalizing a non-medically necessary abortion of a 40 week old fetus?

I'm asking in good faith because I've never actually heard that case made. I'm not religious so you can leave good/evil/god/lillith or whatever out of it, just state the logical case for making it legal to abort a fetus at 40 weeks if there isn't a medical reason to do so.

Also, please don't cop out by saying "no woman would ever do that", because: A) there would be no reason to make it legal if that were the case, and B) hundreds of kids already born are killed by their moms each year so it's not much of a stretch to think they'd kill them still in the womb if it was legal
Why are you trying to have a real conversation with someone who says "moids" and has arguments with imaginary misogynists in public?
 
is Britain trying to kill its women? how does this create a safe environment for care? all this does is encourage at home or back alley abortions because its still illegal for doctors to do it past 24 weeks. i literally dont understand this beyond "let make as many women septic as possible"
 
is Britain trying to kill its women? how does this create a safe environment for care? all this does is encourage at home or back alley abortions because its still illegal for doctors to do it past 24 weeks. i literally dont understand this beyond "let make as many women septic as possible"
Because wine aunts and cat ladies want to justify their actions of getting an abortion or not having kids.
 
I can guarantee that any anti-abortion sentiments you unmarried moids hold would go out the window the moment your woman comes to you and tells you that she's pregnant. Then you'll be squealing about "biological blackmail" and "child support rape".
Oh no the outcome of my actions. How could this happen to me?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!!.!
 
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