Musician help, sharinng tips and techniques - Beginner friendly but also advanced musicians feel free to share techniques, all instruments welcome

[Butwhythough2]

This is my first thread, I'm differentiating it from the Guitar and Bass discussion thread because it focuses more on equipment.

This thread is more structured towards technique and music theory. Of course all instruments are welcome (even a kazoo, hell Jimi Hendrix used one in Crosstown Traffic)

Begginer musicians ask some questions, I'm sure the more veteran ones will answer. And I'll try my best to answer the ones I know. My experience is 20 years of bass, 10 years of guitar, 2 years of mandolin, 2 years of ukulele, and 2 years of keyboard.

 

[herefortheactualthreads]

i have the sudden urge to ask a drug-related question.

 

[William Murderface]

It's long (22 50 minute videos), but here's the playlist of videos from Yale's Intro to Music Theory course:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9LXrs9vCXK56qtyK4qcqwHrbf0em_81r

 

[Canuck Breaker]

i have the sudden urge to ask a drug-related question.

Yes, heroin did probably slow down time enough that Coltrane felt like he was playing whole notes.

 

[Butwhythough2]

i have the sudden urge to ask a drug-related question.

Ask away lmao

 

[Honk Hill]

Great idea for a thread.

I have an academic and professional background in music as well working in a technical field in the industry/live events so am more interested in sperging over theory, music psychology, philosophy of music and I like the tech/production side I don't care for whatever latest abomination the big brands have put out and youtube guitar faggots. But I'll leave the sperging over equipment, DAW's, modelling software and interface latency to the other thread.

I'm happy to help any beginners understand basic theory and develop good techniques and practicing routines and have plenty of resources to share with KF frens.

If there's a specific genre you want to learn, I'd say outside of fusion jazz or Bulgarian choral choir and nigger rap shit I can probably help you.

i have the sudden urge to ask a drug-related question.

I can also answer bong and bong accessory related questions!

 

[Butwhythough2]

Great idea for a thread.

I have an academic and professional background in music as well working in a technical field in the industry/live events so am more interested in sperging over theory, music psychology, philosophy of music and I like the tech/production side I don't care for whatever latest abomination the big brands have put out and youtube guitar faggots. But I'll leave the sperging over equipment, DAW's, modelling software and interface latency to the other thread.

I'm happy to help any beginners understand basic theory and develop good techniques and practicing routines and have plenty of resources to share with KF frens.

If there's a specific genre you want to learn, I'd say outside of fusion jazz or Bulgarian choral choir and nigger rap shit I can probably help you.



I can also answer bong and bong accessory related questions!

You can do that here, I don't mind. That's what I created the thread for.

 

[Lowlife Adventures]

People talk about scales a lot in music and I always wondered where one scale ends and another starts. I think the repetition of melodies/motives/phrases have a lot to do with it and it's partly why I'm so averse to music that disregards repetition.

On a related note, I think it's more useful to analyze music in terms of scales rather than chords since it allows for more flexibility. There seem to be chords that don't sound too exotic but don't even have names in standard practice (first example I can think of is C-G-Bb).

 

[Butwhythough2]

People talk about scales a lot in music and I always wondered where one scale ends and another starts. I think the repetition of melodies/motives/phrases have a lot to do with it and it's partly why I'm so averse to music that disregards repetition.

On a related note, I think it's more useful to analyze music in terms of scales rather than chords since it allows for more flexibility. There seem to be chords that don't sound too exotic but don't even have names in standard practice (first example I can think of is C-G-Bb).

I think that's an A#6sus2. But yeah we can talk about scales, modes, strange chords that don't come up too often. It's kinda like a free discussion plus helping beginners get the hang of their instruments.

 

[Canuck Breaker]

I think that's an A#6sus2. But yeah we can talk about scales, modes, strange chords that don't come up too often. It's kinda like a free discussion plus helping beginners get the hang of their instruments.

It's more of an open tonality to me. It could be Bb6/4add9 but it can also be realized as a C7, Cm7, Gm6sus, Gdim, Gm/C, and even a few others depending on how you lead into and resolve from it.

 

[Honk Hill]

You can do that here, I don't mind. That's what I created the thread for.

Always happy to help with tech shit too, but if you want to keep it more theoretical.

People talk about scales a lot in music and I always wondered where one scale ends and another starts.

Kind of confused by this, scales repeat over octaves or the the next one will follow the chord/key change. Latter, as a general rule of thumb.

C-G-Bb

Every chord has a name, or names based on triads and the intervals.

Open thats a tricky fingering but there are instances where ig that will not sound too exotic in standard tuning.
If I'm not fully regarded it can be named as.

C5 add #13
C7 Omit 3
G/C with a double flatted fifth
A#/C 6th with suspended 2nd

 

[Butwhythough2]

Always happy to help with tech shit too, but if you want to keep it more theoretical.

I'm a complete novice when it comes to DAWS and different software, so I think your insight would come in handy if people want to learn to use them, like what the best one is, or a good quality one that is free for people that don't have the income to devote for some of their subscription models. I would like to learn about them, I'd have to get a new interface first. Hell I've been using my phone to record my stuff by using bandlab to mix, pan, and balance instruments out. It's a nice little app, I do hate the social media side of it and all of those promotions with record labels. I don't mess with those but I can see a young musician taking the bait, they hold it over your head like a carrot on a stick. Enough of my ramblings, but I do think that your knowlage of those things is a good asset

 

[Ultrapenguin]

I like that nowadays if you want music theory there are tons of funny old british men more than happy to tell you about it, mainly just because they're passionate about the topic.
There are entire college music courses uploaded to the internet for free, and wikipedia is actually a pretty solid resource since all types of musical concepts link to each other; they even embed sound clips.

or a good quality one that is free for people that don't have the income to devote for some of their subscription models.

It's tough to compete with Reaper in terms of free DAWs; it isn't technically free, it'll nag you every time you open it to buy it

But you just click that away, until you feel guilty enough to eventually pay for a cheap license.

On a related note, I think it's more useful to analyze music in terms of scales rather than chords since it allows for more flexibility. There seem to be chords that don't sound too exotic but don't even have names in standard practice (first example I can think of is C-G-Bb).

I agree with that, ultimately I think fixating on chords can box someone in, especially given popular styles of music.
Some very good and successful musicians can't name half the stuff they play, they understand it in scales, shapes, and relations. It's silly, but people sometimes seem to lose sight of the fact that the sole goal of music is to play a thing that sounds nice to listen to, however that happens.

I still remember hearing about the band that did all the music for the Witcher series, a band of professional musicians, and how when they were handed sheet music they were like "What are we supposed to do with this? We don't know how to read sheet music."

Knowing chords is for boomers, look at guys like KingCobraJFS; dude can't even play the guitar and he's a certified goth badboy.

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Speaking of which, I'd like to not be bad at reading/writing sheet music. If anyone can explain how they learned to deal with sheet music proficiently please share.

 

[Butwhythough2]

It's tough to compete with Reaper in terms of free DAWs; it isn't technically free, it'll nag you every time you open it to buy it

I did use Reaper, it was kina self explainitory. My pc is slow as hell and sometimes I can't be bothered.

Speaking of which, I'd like to not be bad at reading/writing sheet music. If anyone can explain how they learned to deal with sheet music proficiently please share.

I have a basic level of reading sheet music. Like I can teach it but I find it super hard to read it and play as I go along, I'm a bass player by nature, in all reality just hand me a chord sheet and I'll come up with something good. You know what I mean?

 

[Honk Hill]

I'm a complete novice when it comes to DAWS and different software, so I think your insight would come in handy if people want to learn to use them, like what the best one is, or a good quality one that is free for people that don't have the income to devote for some of their subscription models. I would like to learn about them, I'd have to get a new interface first. Hell I've been using my phone to record my stuff by using bandlab to mix, pan, and balance instruments out. It's a nice little app, I do hate the social media side of it and all of those promotions with record labels. I don't mess with those but I can see a young musician taking the bait, they hold it over your head like a carrot on a stick. Enough of my ramblings, but I do think that your knowlage of those things is a good asset

Thanks mate, a decent entry level 2x2 isn't too prohibitive, if you have a gaming rig or decent laptop you can record your analogue chain direct, mic up an amp/cab or use modelling in silence with headphones and have tube quality tones, just don't get an older gen USB 2.0 interface and deal with 10+ms latency and invest in a good pair of professional reference headphones.

Regarding DAW's, they all have their pro's and cons. You can do everything in all but some are basically better tools for specific use scenarios.

Reaper is amazing with the code editor and scripting. The capabilities or ceiling of it is greater than what most musicians are capable of. It's extremely lightweight on resources and is best suited for recording live instruments. It doesn't come with any sample packs, aside the clicks for the metronome and the midi editor gui leaves a bit to be desired. I guess a good analogy is its like linux, you can set it up however you want and get it to do whatever you want from scratch and has a community full of autists who are still scratching the surface.

Protools is the industry standard because it's the industry standard and with all the subscription utility like the FTP for sharing projects/sessions remotely, it's mostly used in film and large productions being able to handle 256 channels. Unless you have a BA in Audio Engineering or were stupid enough to pay for a private AE course and are working with a professional studio or mixing house, thinking you need studio time with protools engineer fag to record a legit album is like thinking you need a gibson custom shop to sound better.

Ableton/Cubase and FL Studio are better for midi or synth, nigger music type of production, you can use FL studio for line in and it has a pretty cool audio editor edison for clipping stuff. But it's gay compared to reaper for line in.

Logic is for macfags who generally have over priced high end gear they don't deserve to own, are retards and are fat and if they were female I would not have sex with them.

 

[Honk Hill]

Knowing chords is for boomers, look at guys like KingCobraJFS; dude can't even play the guitar and he's a certified goth badboy.

Do you have 100k subs on youtube and thots like NaL trying to grift your youtooooooob and disability payments?

 

[Meat Target]

"What are we supposed to do with this? We don't know how to read sheet music."

 

[Butwhythough2]

I remember that episode, early adult swim was so good

 

[Butwhythough2]

@Honk Hill have you heard of Cake walk and if you have, what do you think about it?

 

[Honk Hill]

Cakewalk Studio 2 was what I mostly used on w98/XP, it was great as one of the first proper DAW's.

I'm not familiar with newer versions of cakewalk, would you bet 10 bucks its overbloated GUI shit with settings for your pronouns.