Disaster New beanless 'coffee' emerges but does it taste any good? - You WILL drink the granulated waste date seed juice


I am in a high-end coffee shop in a tech-heavy area of San Francisco, staring suspiciously into a cup of espresso. This is no conventional coffee: it is made without using a single coffee bean.

It comes from Atomo, one of a band of alt-coffee start-ups hoping to revolutionise the world of brewed coffee.

“We take great offence when someone says that we're a coffee substitute,” says Andy Kleitsch, the chief executive of Seattle based start-up Atomo, from whose pure, beanless ground product my espresso has been made.

Traditional coffee substitutes have a reputation for not tasting much like coffee and are usually caffeine-free.

However, the newcomers intend to replicate one of the world’s most popular beverages from taste, to caffeine punch, to drinking experience – and the first of this nascent industry’s beanless concoctions have begun to appear.

They say there's a strong environmental argument for their beanless brews.

According to the World Wide Fund for Nature, external, coffee cultivation is currently the sixth largest cause of deforestation.

That impact is expected to widen as demand increases: consumption is fast rising in traditional tea drinking countries like India and China.

Meanwhile, climate change is pushing plantations to higher altitudes to escape the heat.

So, beanless coffee is potentially a less environmentally damaging alternative.

The newcomers also argue that, if scaled up, beanless coffee could be cheaper than its conventional competition.

And, with coffee prices reaching record levels, external on the international markets this year, that point is timely.

Also, in December, a new EU regulation, external is set to come into effect that outlaws the sale of products, coffee included, that can’t prove they are not linked to deforestation.

“A lot of big coffee companies are watching this field,” says Chahan Yeretzian, a professor of analytical chemistry, who heads the Coffee Excellence Centre at the Zurich University of Applied Sciences in Switzerland.

Niels Haak, director of sustainable coffee partnerships at Conservation International, an environmental non-profit, welcomes the innovative approaches to tackling coffee’s deforestation problem, but he also doubts if beanless coffee will be able to make much dent.

Coffee growing provides livelihoods and income to many smallholder farming families globally, he further notes. The conundrum is if they move away from growing coffee, they will likely instead turn to growing more coca – the plant cocaine derives from – which has similar deforestation issues. “There are no silver bullets,” he says.

He notes there is work ongoing – from coffee certification schemes, to efforts aimed at strengthening so-called shade coffee farming where coffee is grown under a canopy of other trees – to make coffee growing more sustainable and support communities. “[The coffee sector] is on a journey to transform,” he says.

Yet the beanless companies counter that transformation isn’t wide enough or quick enough. Coffee is causing massive deforestation and coffee farmers live in poverty.

If alt-coffee could offset even just the extra projected coffee demand it would be a win for the planet that wouldn’t put anyone out of business.

And, as the climate changes, there are plenty of crops beyond illicit ones that coffee farmers could switch to that don’t require slashing more forest.

Atomo, which launched in 2019, is currently sold in more than 70 coffee shops in the US.

Coffee shop chain Bluestone Lane added it to the menu at all its locations in early August, including in San Francisco.

Since June, Atomo has also been selling through its website a blend of beanless and conventional coffee intended for home brewing that I have also purchased to try.

It currently costs slightly more than premium conventional coffee. For example, to make my espresso with Atomo adds on 50 cents (38p).

Atomo’s ingredients aren’t particularly high tech: date seeds, ramón seeds, sunflower seed extract, fructose, pea protein, millet, lemon, guava, fenugreek seeds, caffeine and baking soda.

Things begin with waste date seeds or pits. Rock hard, they are granulated then infused with a secret marinade of ingredients from the list above, before being roasted to create new flavours, aromas and compounds.

Further ingredients then finish things off. Atomo’s caffeine is sourced from green tea decaffeination, though synthetically-made caffeine is also used to provide beanless coffee’s kick.

Atomo operates a facility in southern California, where the date pits are cleaned and washed, and a second facility in Seattle where the manufacturing takes place. Current capacity is four million pounds a year, which Mr Kleitsch describes as a “rounding error” in the world of coffee production: Starbucks buys about 800 million.

As for trying Atomo, both the coffee shop espresso and the brew-at-home version tasted close enough to good coffee for me. Perhaps luckily for these companies, coffee can have many different undertones.

Others have different ingredients and methods.

Over the past year the bean-free coffee products of Dutch start-up Northern Wonder, founded in 2021, has secured space on supermarket shelves in the Netherlands and Switzerland.

Roasted and ground lupin, chickpea, malted barley, and chicory are amongst the major ingredients the company works with, along with an undisclosed natural flavouring.

Though notes David Klingen, the company’s boss, operations are still in the research and development phase. Ingredients may change as it perfects its brew.

Other companies on the scene include Singapore-based Prefer and San Francisco's Minus.

And, though it is further from market, also being pursued is the tantalising possibility of lab-grown or cultured coffee.

In the same way animal cells can be cultivated in a bioreactor and harvested to produce meat cell products – so cells extracted from coffee plants could be similarly grown, then fermented and roasted to produce a brew. Proof of concept was demonstrated in 2021, external by Finnish government researchers, who are now trying to help accelerate commercialisation, external.

Cell-based coffee start-ups include Swiss-based Foodbrewer, US-based California Cultured, and Singapore-based Another.

The approach may provide a closer match to coffee than surrogates like Atomo or Northern Wonder, but regulatory approval for such novel food takes time and money. There are also doubts the technology will be able to scale economically.

Meanwhile, challenges for the beanless firms remain. The house-filling aroma that real coffee generates is still elusive for them. And bean-free coffee doesn’t provide emotional connections to faraway places – Colombia, Ethiopia, Indonesia – the way real coffee can.

Atomo’s main business hurdle now is finding large coffee partners who want to offer their consumers a new choice, while Northern Wonder’s is finding the right investors.

“People aren’t completely sure how big the category will be and when,” says Mr Klingen.

I don’t think I’ll be switching – I can’t help but like that real coffee is grown by people somewhere – but beanless coffee certainly left me thinking I should investigate the sustainability and ethics of my conventional brew.
 
Atomo’s ingredients aren’t particularly high tech: date seeds, ramón seeds, sunflower seed extract, fructose, pea protein, millet, lemon, guava, fenugreek seeds, caffeine and baking soda.
So seed oils and fructose.

If Trump gets in there needs to be a Nuremberg style trial for "Food Scientists" presided over by Bobby Kennedy with Nuremberg style consequences.
 
Atomo’s ingredients aren’t particularly high tech: date seeds, ramón seeds, sunflower seed extract, fructose, pea protein, millet, lemon, guava, fenugreek seeds, caffeine and baking soda.
Lmao. Who doesn't like replacing a food that comes out of the ground with a cocktail of waste products, chemicals, and additives ground to oblivion and recombined in an industrial lab?

Pea protein is one of the ingredients of those ultra-processed fake meats btw, usually paired with "cellulose" (sawdust) as a binder and to try to fake the texture of actual meat.

Coffee growing provides livelihoods and income to many smallholder farming families globally, he further notes. The conundrum is if they move away from growing coffee, they will likely instead turn to growing more coca – the plant cocaine derives from – which has similar deforestation issues
"As always, we were surprised we couldn't just change a single variable and have no one react. We honestly thought all those coffee farmers would just have their livelihoods obliterated and go away and die or something, not shift to a different living! This is worse than when we spike taxes and bigots have the nerve to find substitutes or move elsewhere!"
 
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"As always, we were surprised we couldn't just change a single variable and have no one react. We honestly thought all those coffee farmers would just have their livelihoods obliterated and go away and die or something, not shift to a different living! This is worse than when spike taxes and bigots have the nerve to find substitutes or move elsewhere!"
It's like none of these idiots grew up during the 'New Coke' debacle.
 
Yum, fake coffee flavored with seed oils! I'm glad The Science sez it's a safe and effective substitute for coffee.

Anyone calling this shit "coffee" should be sued into oblivion. There's no such thing as "beanless coffee." Just like there's no such thing as "plant-based meat." It's blatant fraud against consumers.
 
How to produce coffee.

1. Grow coffee
2. Remove fruit from the coffee berry, either by washing or drying.
3. Roast beans.
4. Grind beans.
5. Add hot water.

Meanwhile to make this oil, sugar, and grain concoction you need several farming inputs, many more factory inputs, and its storage is probably way less efficient. It also has added caffeine, where the majority of caffeine is a byproduct of decaffeinating coffee (with most of the rest coming from decaffeinating tea) so it probably actually has coffee in it anyway.

In conclusion, nuke San Francisco and salt the earth so another start up may never grow there.

Edit: I misread it, the company is actually in Seattle. Please apply the above to both.
 
Disgusting, tried that mushroom coffee because it was around and I was feeling adventurous, that is NOT coffee and cannot be compared to coffee except it’s hot and organic in origin.

Linden tree leaves would probably be just as tasty as whatever this shit and mushroom coffee is.

Just drink hot water with lemon at that point, don’t torture yourself
 
Yum, fake coffee flavored with seed oils! I'm glad The Science sez it's a safe and effective substitute for coffee.

Anyone calling this shit "coffee" should be sued into oblivion. There's no such thing as "beanless coffee." Just like there's no such thing as "plant-based meat." It's blatant fraud against consumers.

I am baffled here by the product the are shilling. Postum has already existed since the 19th century as a coffee alternative. Wouldn't it be cheaper to offer Postum at coffee shops as an alternative? It does contain wheat bran and is not gluten free. I've never had it but it doesn't actually taste like coffee via Post's own statement. However, since I highly doubt this hipster crap tastes like coffee either that point is pointless. There are also drinks made from chicory root. Neither Postum or Chicory have caffeine. But caffeine can be added separately. You can literally buy caffeine additives.

If you want naturally caffeinated you can try yerba mate. Mixing green and black tea also produces a rich and unique flavor. There are many alternatives to overpriced frankenbeverages. The article states that some alternatives don't taste like coffee or have caffeine. But you are better off drinking some chicory or switching to yerba mate than some seed oil and fructose concoction.

Also, I'm a bit surprised here because of the fact that very poor people in developing countries rely on coffee plantations to survive. So wouldn't replacing coffee be racist? There are very clear problems with both the coffee and cocoa industries. But you can't forget that people will literally starve if they lose those industries because some trust fund hipster wants to save the planet by sipping on seed oil and fructose while scrolling his feed.
 
“We take great offence when someone says that we're a coffee substitute,” says Andy Kleitsch
Kill yourself faggot.
If alt-coffee could offset even just the extra projected coffee demand it would be a win for the planet that wouldn’t put anyone out of business.

And, as the climate changes, there are plenty of crops beyond illicit ones that coffee farmers could switch to that don’t require slashing more forest.
MUH CLIMATE CHANGE!

Just grow dandelions and use the roots for a coffee alternative. Will it taste like coffee? Hell no, but it is infinitely superior to this sludge.
 
Alternatively you can also have rice coffee.
I've heard of it but never had it, I'll have to see if I can find some. You could probably toast the rice yourself too but don't want to screw it up the first time trying it. Really like chicory as a mixture in coffee too, in general I like variety besides coffee and tea but don't really like hot chocolate.
 
If you want naturally caffeinated you can try yerba mate. Mixing green and black tea also produces a rich and unique flavor. There are many alternatives to overpriced frankenbeverages. The article states that some alternatives don't taste like coffee or have caffeine. But you are better off drinking some chicory or switching to yerba mate than some seed oil and fructose concoction.

Also, I'm a bit surprised here because of the fact that very poor people in developing countries rely on coffee plantations to survive. So wouldn't replacing coffee be racist? There are very clear problems with both the coffee and cocoa industries. But you can't forget that people will literally starve if they lose those industries because some trust fund hipster wants to save the planet by sipping on seed oil and fructose while scrolling his feed.
Postum is surprisingly really expensive these days (even back in 2019). I'm guessing that part of it is a niche product.

Roasted and ground lupin, chickpea, malted barley, and chicory are amongst the major ingredients the company works with, along with an undisclosed natural flavouring.
Chicory was used in New Orleans during the Civil War when supplies were short—everyone knew it wasn't real coffee but it was wartime and there was poverty.

What does that say about society today?
 
If you're in the UK those 500g tubs of supermarket brand coffee are £5ish, similar quality to the decent stuff and sealed to last year's past their labeled use by date.

Start filling your loft with them now (2 or 3 per week) and you should last till this stuff is mass rejected and the companies close down.
 
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