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HiramTheGrift

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:slayer: The Runescape Community:slayer:
A Brief History
Runescape (formerly Runescape 2) is an MMORPG that was released in 2001. To many readers, Runescape was their first foray into the internet gaming world. This is evidenced by memes that have been in circulation since the MySpace era. The game had a broad appeal, being an early MMORPG in the arena, a staff that had worked on the original Runescape, and since it worked on your browser you essentially had nothing to download or manage. Over the course of Runescape's life it has gone through many changes. The most dramatic of which was the introduction of the Grand Exchange in 2007 which restructured the economy and dynamic of the game. The more modern version, Runescape 3, was released and met with heavy criticism and little player participation. This caused the devs to repackage Runescape 2 and roll in back to 2007, right when the Grand Exchange was established.

The Grand Exchange was an exceptionally controversial update that caused a significant portion of players to leave, because it introduced trading value caps (ie: all trades had to be somewhat equal in value, no gifting) and a centralized location for trading across all servers. Before the Grand Exchange update, you were able to trade and gift any amount of value for nothing in return, but you also had to find a player willing to participate in your trade. The reason trading values were capped was because Runescape was notorious for have bots farm resources constantly, and then sell these resources for real world money.
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Jagex (the company behind Runescape) worked to combat these bots but were clearly unsuccessful every step of the way. The company had to stop real world trading for two reasons:
1. They stated that real-world transactions ruined the spirit of the game, that every object had to be earned through work and skill.
Being a grind-heavy game, this is true. Runescape thrived off of paid memberships. If you have to kill a metric butt load of dragons to max out a skill, or run Barrows for a month to get that armor set you wanted, then you will keep paying and playing.
2. The lesser known reason was that these botters were also using stolen credit cards to pay for memberships for their robotic legions. This put Jagex and credit car payment processors at odds. If Runescape got blacklisted by the credit card companies, they'd be dead in the water, financially speaking.

For these reasons, Jagex released the wildly unpopular trading caps with the Grand Exchange update. What followed was one of the largest fanbase outcries I've ever witnessed in my time as an incel socially challenged youth. The community took a peculiar nose dive at this time, because Jagex kept throwing new events and updates at the player base in an attempt to appease them. It was too late, however. The appeasement bred a weird sense of entitlement or "if we complain enough they'll do X, Y, or Z". Runescape is also an extremely grind-heavy game. You need to perform the same action a lot to level up a skill. Over time this mechanic lost appeal and has prohibited many new players from enjoying the game. So now Runescape has this weird gatekeeping mentality where older players who have spent literally years of their lives clicking in a pattern act like kings and shit on everyone else. The autism is strong with this community and it's been around for two decades now, so I will give you some more recent highlights:

The Economics of Prostitution AKA I'm not gay but $20 is $20
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The most well known meme other than the ' :slayer:' gnome is "buying gf." Since Runescape was a grind-heavy game, some people became jealous of couples playing together, tired of clicking the same willow tree over and over alone. If you told me prostitution was the oldest profession before playing Runescape, I might not have believed you. But it didn't take long until the thirsty boys of Runescape would start offering female avis items, gold, and questing help to be their girlfriends. This in turn caused many men to switch to female characters and began "dating" many men, essentially turning it into a business. They would chat with lonely guys in the PMs and collect that sweet, sweet, runescape gold. There was one particular quest where your character had to be female to complete, and when I changed genders I was offered gold to be a Runescape gf. I can't speak to what it's like now or if the Runescape gf black market is still around, but I recall stories of dudes scamming lonely guys out of some top-tier items back in the day.
As a result, it was perfectly natural for two underage guys to engage in weird cyber sex for a few thousand pieces of gold. For those who never played, that's not very much.

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Spergs Sperging about other Spergs
If a Runescape streamer or content creator powerlevels their autism too hard the community will turn around and meme you into the seventh layer of hell. Theoatrix was a Runescape Youtuber who made 1-99 skill guides for the game. He, like most video creators, lifted heavily from the wiki and other sources. He sperged hard about some other Runescape autist exceptional poster named odablock for breaking their "Golden Gnome" trophy which was basically a garden gnome painted gold, and the community turned him into a field day. He responded with discussing the toxicity of the community, mental health, and trying to make it more welcoming for newcomers. The carnage was so much for Theoatrix that his Twitter account is still private six months later. He probably won't be back
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And a classic sperg out over Theoatrix

The Theoatrix RANT - Maxed player's pov on shithead youtuber.​


(Youtube link)

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It's at this point I should remind the reader that the current OSRS community has not had a large influx of new players in, perhaps, a little over a decade. This means the community is comprised of adults in their late 20s to mid 30s. The toxicity you're seeing is not from children, but man-babies.
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The State of the Community
Recently, Jagex announced they are discontinuing support of third party clients in favor of their own coming out. Whether Jagex follows through with releasing their own or not is not relevant, although it seems to be true. The community is in an absolute uproar as usual, and all you will see on the front page of any RS-themed subreddit for the next three weeks will be how everyone will cancel their subscriptions and how Jagex and Mod Ash brought Hitler back to life.
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(The only downvoted post)
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The cringe isn't just coming from inside the thread, it's literally all anyone can talk about for at least the first four pages
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Communism Vs the Runescape Economy
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What happens when your prosperous LatAm country elects a Communist party that bets the entire currency on oil only to get undercut by Middle Eastern oil producers?
This is what happens. (Headphone users beware)


With the Venezuelan economy in the toilet, many citizens turned to Runescape to make gold. They realized that, by killing green drags and grinding in a few areas for items, they could effectively make more money by selling in-game items than they could working any job inside their country. This spawned quite a conflict in the Runescape community. On one hand, bots were destroying the game. On the other hand, people were destroying one in-game economy to save a country's economy.
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Shenanigans with the Venezuelans usually consists of them swarming an arena, the wilderness, or other profitable area like the plague and engaging in weird banter (en español, of course)
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Venezuelan gold farming is well known in the economist world as well. I can confirm in my day-to-day life around policy makers and economists, the term "Venezuelan gold farmers" has been mentioned to a room on more than one occasion. It even earned a 20-minute episode on NPR's Planet Money. Here's the link and an archive. This episode is actually very interesting if you're interested in economics.

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It's also made several news articles (archive). I could speak more from personal experience, but there are so many mediums of content going into this I'm going to conclude with two videos explaining the hilarious, sad, and ridiculous situation. One thing that's important to remember, is that Venezuelans weren't playing Runescape for fun, it was for money. The consequence of this is that they didn't really understand the mechanics of the game, just how to maximize cash flow. Many of these Venezuelans ended up hiring British and American players to defend them from PKers because they lacked the basic understanding of combat mechanics to counter these players. It isn't long until these Venezuelans learned how to fight back. They ended up taking over entire servers in the wilderness.

Runescape Players Are Hunting Down Venezuelans / Exploring the State of Venezuela and How It Affects RuneScape​


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Conclusion
In conclusion, Runescape is a classic MMO with an equally ubiquitous toxic fanbase. The community is synonymous with grumpy boys earning useless toys and complaining every step of the way. Every time something happens the community doesn't like it becomes an Avengers Level Threat™. I sympathize with a community that feels ignored by the developers, especially when you're spending your hard earned Soros Bux for years to keep it afloat, but whenever there's an update it becomes a disaster of epic proportions. And don't get me started on their views on people who admit to playing Runescape 3, the newest iteration of the game. That's a story for another time, or perhaps a reader will share one of the other classic spergeries that come out of this community. In the end, Old School Runescape is a nostalgia trip for many of us. It is a look to the past, where life was simpler, memes were fewer, and the climate was cooler. It was a beautiful relic of the past, and that's where it should remain, in the past. In the meantime we have an insane community full of entitled man-babies to laugh at on the way to the grave.

Additional Viewing:

The Runescape Community Will Never Be Like It Was / How a Single Item Consumed the RuneScape Community​


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RuneScape: An MMO Split In Half / Why People Are Playing RuneScape in 2021​


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Grand Exchangers: Old School Runescape Subreddit (archive) - /r/2007scape - Runescape Steam Community (archive) - /r/Runescape (archive) - Theoatrix's Twitter (archive) :slayer:
 
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so does this mean a kiwi clan is happening?

i miss the old steam page and being able to link up with non-retards to play games.

personally don't really like the game too much either. the autism and clicking grind is fun but only until you hit level 40, despite it being almost 20 years they realy dont have many items to unlock past then. the quests are fun i just wish i visited player houses and used potions+necklaces more.
 
Don't forget about the guy who shit himself and sat in it for hours to try to get the record for most Smithing XP in 24 hours on a 3rd party community leaderboard, ended up only getting #2; and then got his thousands of hours played account banned for talking about how much he liked that some countries had age of consent as low as 14 on in-game and Discord chats!
 
The only thing I know about this game is the time Keemstar "outed" a pedo-, except it turns out Keemstar got the wrong guy. It was just an older retired guy who played the game and streamed on Twitch for something to do. I think he doxed himself up to and including showing his driver's license on-stream to prove his innocence.

Never had much use for Keemstar before that, and none afterwards.

YouTuber Makes 62-Year-Old Man Cry After Internet Witch-Hunt
(Archive is down, sorry. Hadn't realized it was so long ago. 2016.)
 
The only thing I know about this game is the time Keemstar "outed" a pedo-, except it turns out Keemstar got the wrong guy. It was just an older retired guy who played the game and streamed on Twitch for something to do. I think he doxed himself up to and including showing his driver's license on-stream to prove his innocence.

Never had much use for Keemstar before that, and none afterwards.

YouTuber Makes 62-Year-Old Man Cry After Internet Witch-Hunt
(Archive is down, sorry. Hadn't realized it was so long ago. 2016.)
Damn, Keemstar is a bigger piece of shit than I realized. I don't know what the legal precautions of this would be, but I'd be lawyering up and taking Keemstar for a ride. Not for money, but because of how atrocious of a douche and ill prepared he is to ever even consider reporting on significant stories like this.
 
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I knew a guy who was pretty serious about playing this game. I have very few notable stories, but probably the most hilarious is that he admitted to me and a group of friends that he once had a nightmare about leveling a pacifist character and accidentally burying a set of bones in his inventory. Since apparently burying bones counts as a religious action, and will make your Religon score go up by 1 point. Which would ruin his pacifist run because Religion is considered a combat stat. We didn't really let him live that one down.
 
Good thread on this grindy meme game.

Has OSRS had any more fucking retarded events like the LGBT one? Has a lumbridge guard been spotted kneeling on a gnome child's back as he yells in rainbow text about being unable to sneed?
not OSRS, but Runescape 3 had one update renaming a bunch of minor npcs

  • The word ‘Gypsy’ has been removed from Aris’ name and examine text as this word could be interpreted as a racial slur.
  • Various NPCs in Karamja have been given more appropriate titles.
  • Various NPCs in the Kharidian Desert have had their name changed from ‘Ali’ to better reflect the diverse variety of names we see in real life.
  • Some dialogue in the Kindred Spirits quest has been altered to remove unintended offense.
 
As a result, it was perfectly natural for two underage guys to engage in weird cyber sex for a few thousand pieces of gold. For those who never played, that's not very much.
It never is, no matter which RPG you're playing.

So, what's the going rate for end game equipment?
 
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Canadian Twitch streamer, best known for his NBA 2K challenge videos, used to play a lot of Runescape from back in the day.

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I know this boy from uni that has like thousands of hours in it. I can't remember if he plays on the old one or the newer clients tho. He basically let it run in the background on his laptop 24/7.

I also remember reading a news article about how Venezuelans were farming specific dragons for gold to sell for irl money, and the ethical dilemma of players forming kill squads to hunt them down. On one hand it is a way for them to make money and survive, on the other if you help them kill the dragons faster the price of gold drops and as a result so does the value of their work. All in all a moral quandary I am certainly not equipped to solve.
 
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