why aren't we including the down-to-earth practicality of haskell, the modern conveniences of pascal, the standard library of lua, the incredibly lightweight runtimes of java and c#, the higher-order data structure processing ability of old fortran, and the flexibility and terseness of cobol
one day you will be able to run guilemacs... on your hurd 1.0 box
While browsing on Xanadu, talking to CyC.
now those are TRUE vaporware
Use DARCS (haskell based) like I mentioned as a shitpost before... Sadly, the spiritual successor pijul is written in rust by a troon.
Can anyone explain why I would ever even try to write in anything other than posix shell? It has everything you will ever need. if statements, case statements, while loops, (god forsaken) for loops, and until loops, functions. If you want more than that you are trying too hard.
it can't really do arrays or numbers but that's what you use sed and dc for
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I think Hurd can be taken out of the Vaporware category and placed more in the Duke Nukem Forever category (which, ironically, reached 1.0 status before Hurd did). Now that I think about it, though, they did eventually open source one transcompiled copy of Xanadu (Smalltalk -> C++). But hey, at least CyC is still total fucking vaporware (and always will be).
Let's call it STAINLESS and have it be basically C but with one tiny change, and it's either fully backwards compatible with c code or c code can be perfectly converted to STAINLESS using automated tools
usage() {
echo "get rope"
}
case "$you" in
nigger) kys ; exit
;;
faggot) kys ; exit
;;
tranny) kys ; exit
;;
*) usage ; exit 1
;;
esac
Lunduke is a retard. Like you said, anyone can read the mailing lists. Kent Overstreet has created problems before and never learned his lesson. Lunduke's story is stupid, as usual. "For no reason" the evil kernel developers got angry and even though they had already incorporated bcachefs to the kernel, just to be meanies they decided to kick it back out, again, for no reason.
Smallest change to the C language ? Zero changes.
Just you wait my nigger, for when the holy day comes we will all bask in the wonders of crisp, clean, trany-free Guile GNU/git (read: nugget). Join me as we prepare to invoke the holy ritual by handwriting the entire GCC stack in Winjeet blood, and WITNESS the evocation of the holy Hurd!
The C language design itself is one of the biggest key issues. The complexity of the pre-processor, the complexity of the post-pre-processor parsing, et cetera. The C language has decades of hacking around "key issues", and that is itself one of the key issues today.
Ironically, when asked about his irregular behavior, he says that he is breaking the rules to get REAL FIXES out to REAL PEOPLE. Maybe if he moved a hair slower, he wouldn't have had these problems in the first place. Now it's going to be largely academic because he's been exiled to Kent-land, population one. Now he can piss and shit all over his own git repo and do whatever he wants. Anyone with enough motivation can clone his repo and run bcachefs, but I think that's going to be a shrinking crowd. Too bad, because Linux could badly use something as decent as ZFS without the licensing incompatibility.
The complexity does allow for performance improvements, at the cost of the developer having to know what they fuck they are doing.
ASM? Yeah, it's alright.
"A little bit more complicated" is basically C++. The problem is that you don't want more complicated than C, syntactically speaking. C is already much more complex than any of its competitors in terms of implementation details, save C++. Rust is less complex than C despite providing "more power". But you correctly perceive that there's a market for "C but a bit less complex". Most go "C but a bit less complex and a bit more high level" (ie. Rust, Jai, Zig, Nim, whatever), but very few go "C but a bit less complex and a bit more low level".
fuck im dumb
step 1 of making c good is probably giving it a lisp-like syntax and a macro system at least as powerful as scheme's syntax-rules. the addition of syntax-rules would be completely free during runtime and give you a bunch of nice features, which is very fitting for any c-like language
ehhh i'd say rust is more complex than raw c99 but less complex than gnu c23 or something like that