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Ladies and gentlemen of the Farms, in our honored tradition of finding speds on both sides, I present vnsndalce@memeware.net (real name unknown).
vnsndalce is a lawyer and not a fan of the Linux CoC. He thinks Linux contributors who disagree with the CoC should revoke the license of their contribution. He shares this sentiment with the world by cross-posting screeds to various Linux- and BSD-related mailing lists (including ones targeted more towards users than developers). Within his posts, his arguments as to the legality and possibility of developers revoking the license of their contributions is interspersed with expletives, MGTOW-style misogyny, and zealotry for apparently some sect of Judaism which is still totally down with the whole child marriage thing. Oh, and did I mention he's a lawyer? Because he really wants you to know that, and I'm sure there's no major qualifications on that statement at all.
Let's have a look, shall we? Here's the first message from him I stumbled upon. If your eyes start to glaze over while reading this, feel free to skip to the parts I have emphasized.
Following his posts in threads in mailing list archive sites can be difficult since he seems to send his reply to replies he received on one of the lists he crossposted to to all of them. Here's one such repsonse:
I think you might be starting to get the idea, but here's one more for good measure:
Find more of this freak's posts here. I haven't yet read them all, so there might be even nuttier stuff in there, but at the least it's sure to be more of the same.
vnsndalce is a lawyer and not a fan of the Linux CoC. He thinks Linux contributors who disagree with the CoC should revoke the license of their contribution. He shares this sentiment with the world by cross-posting screeds to various Linux- and BSD-related mailing lists (including ones targeted more towards users than developers). Within his posts, his arguments as to the legality and possibility of developers revoking the license of their contributions is interspersed with expletives, MGTOW-style misogyny, and zealotry for apparently some sect of Judaism which is still totally down with the whole child marriage thing. Oh, and did I mention he's a lawyer? Because he really wants you to know that, and I'm sure there's no major qualifications on that statement at all.
Let's have a look, shall we? Here's the first message from him I stumbled upon. If your eyes start to glaze over while reading this, feel free to skip to the parts I have emphasized.
Their take is that if you lent (licensed) them a lawnmower and told them
not to wreck it, the fact that they did not wreck it entitles them to
keep the lawnmower forever(they followed your instruction regarding the
use of your property: "thus consideration, thus irrevocable license").
They are wrong. You can revoke the license.
You were paid nothing for this grant.
The takers have nothing.
Yet they are taking your positions, your seniority, controlling your
speech, and ejecting you from your communities.
You must fight back. They have already taken from you all the natural
pleasures in life (which include pretty young girls as brides, ruling
over your girls and family, being the master - not the servant of the
woman and her state).
Now they are taking this edifice, this refuge, which you have built for
yourself.
They see you as replaceable, expendable, removable employees.
(See: Bruce Perens statements on slashdot and this and other mailing
lists about how those who do not like the Code of Conduct can be easily
replaced)
But you are property owners and may elect to enforce your rights as
such. And you should do so.
And yes, You can trust my words. I am a licensed attorney, and I'm on
your side. Not the side of the women. Not the side of people like Bruce
Perens who see you as a replaceable cog: a worker... a chattel. Your
side. The side of the dispossessed men who are ruled over by the women
and the supporters of the women: who will not tolerate any corner of
advertence not fixated on them.
Following his posts in threads in mailing list archive sites can be difficult since he seems to send his reply to replies he received on one of the lists he crossposted to to all of them. Here's one such repsonse:
It is my intention to inform you of your legal rights.
A license is revocable by the property owner.
Others are suggesting to you otherwise. They are being disingenuous.
With both Linux and BSD there is no attached interest (no one paid you)
There is no detrimental reliance (you never promised anyone you would
forfeit your default property rights, and they never payed you for this
forfeit)
I waited two months for Eben Moglen's promised refutation. It never
came.
You concoct some conspiracy theory about "trolling" because you simply do not understand
the very simple legal principals. You furthermore imagine it impossible for
a lawyer to waste his time informing you, because you see such a position
(one you did not obtain) as too lofty for any to waste their time with
you.
I'm wasting my time. With you. To try to get it through your ignorant skulls
that you can rescind the grant, and that it is a partial remedy to getting thrown
out for whatever CoC is being foisted upon both the FreeBSD and Linux programmers.
Suffice to say: you are too stupid to understand that you do not know what you do not know
and that your leaders are blowing smoke up your ass in an attempt to get you to sign
a pledge against your current legal rights before you might make use of them.
That is: You are a Stupid Man. Like many of the weak twig like men in the movement.
You are little more than employees: and you accept being treated like cattle.
You accept being dominated by women, and revel in it: it is all you know.
You accept being dominated by bosses, and revel in it: it is all you know.
You also accept that you cannot take young girls as brides.
You accept that "your" wives dominate you.
You celebrate this.
You hate YHWH's law, which allows men to take girls (female children) as brides,
including in cases of rape (5th book of the law, 22nd chapter, 28th
verse, in the Greek Septuagint or the Hebrew MT)
You are an enemy of the god. You are an enemy of man.
You are a friend to women, and their support groups.
You design to convert all the intellectual property of the men who
created the edifice into the hands of the women and
the entrenched interests that support them.
Men who do not like this have an option: Band together as a Bloc, and
rescind license to your code.
I think you might be starting to get the idea, but here's one more for good measure:
Band together as a Bloc and take action together. (Bloc revocation).
One practice note: do not send a cease-and-desist before-hand.
Do not let your lawyer send a cease-and-desist before-hand.
If a potential defendant knows that their liberties regarding a
copyrighted work is in question
from entity X (entity X being a rights-holder etc), then they can rush
to the courthouse and file for a hearing to determine their rights.
They do this to give you less time to prepare your case, and to have the case start in
a jurisdiction that they feel is favorable to them (the CoC supporters will be trying
to get the case adjudicated in the 9th circuit, as they feel they have those
judges in their pocket - the 9th circuit absolutely hates men with a passion _even_
greater than the rest of America - and they like to overturn and ignore black-letter law)
You will notice that the CoC supporters and No-Rescind group have fallen silent
in the last couple of months. They know they have very little to grasp onto,
and every one of their claims have been refuted.
Heather Meekers just gives the issue a gloss and says "lol no"
and points to a ZDnet article, where I have cited academic papers on the issue,
as-well as the law I learned in law school, and further studies.
Bruce Perens literally called you all replaceable.
As did Mathew Garret.
Specifically because they feel that they own your property now and they
do not need you.
Inform them that such is not the case, in the most direct manner.
Remember: These are the people, the class, that prevent you from having sweet love.
They are those who uphold your legal disabilities (cannot marry cute
young girls, as YHWH allows).
They are your enemies, and the enemies of all Men on earth.
Find more of this freak's posts here. I haven't yet read them all, so there might be even nuttier stuff in there, but at the least it's sure to be more of the same.