Paradox Studio Thread

[Blackstar]

Release date probably somewhere around 2077 but I still keep an eye on it since Imperator has such a wonderful map.

I wonder what the fuck happened at paradox in relation to map design, they peaked with Imperator then decided to do a 180 and move towards making shittier cartoonish maps instead of improving it.

 

[Computer God Autism]

I wonder what the fuck happened at paradox in relation to map design,

they peaked with Imperator then decided to do a 180

I wonder what could have happened indeed.

 

[Blackstar]

I wonder what could have happened indeed.

I meant what happened that made them decide to do that. CK3 and Vic 3 remind me more of Civ than the previous paradox maps.

 

[Sooty Soot]

This would be great. People always are taught that the Crusades were about Jerusalem or soley a form of aggression against "Muh Muslims," (conviniently ignoring that the holy land was stolen from Christian Byzantium in the first place.)

Someone should make a lolcows of history thread about the 1st Crusade, the stuff that went down and the fact it isn't represented in CK is criminal.

 

[Computer God Autism]

I meant what happened that made them decide to do that. CK3 and Vic 3 remind me more of Civ than the previous paradox maps.

Again, you're answering your own question. Imperator's UI design was old school. Johan is old school. Imperator flops because Johan had a few incredibly retarded ideas he was too stubborn to see were awful combined with Paradox getting increasingly lazy. The crowd Johan is hoping Imperator will appeal to doesn't materialize because of that, everything associated with Imperator and Johan gets momentarily discredited and Johan gets exiled to Catalonia so the new (c) adults (tm) can be in charge in the main office. Then CK3 loses all momentum and Victoria 3 bombs, and now people are looking at Imperator with a lot more of a forgiving lens.

 

[Computer God Autism]

Someone should make a lolcows of history thread about the 1st Crusade, the stuff that went down and the fact it isn't represented in CK is criminal.

I can't remember which one, but IIRC Anna Komnene mentioned one of the Crusader leaders just up and sat in her father's throne during one of the initial meetings between Alexios and the Crusader leaders.

 

[LovisXVI]

The Greeks and Crusaders deserved each other. The most treacherous and incompetent assholes in all of Christendom, together, hating each other, but forced to work together. It's like a buddy cop movie.

 

[Batko Bandera]

The Greeks and Crusaders deserved each other. The most treacherous and incompetent assholes in all of Christendom, together, hating each other, but forced to work together. It's like a buddy cop movie.

Can you elaborate? I am actually curious what they did to make you have such a poor opinion.

 

[LovisXVI]

Can you elaborate? I am actually curious what they did to make you have such a poor opinion.

The fact that at every opportunity, they stabbed the other in the back, often to their own detriment. They had many opportunities to deal killing blows to their shared rivals in Egypt and Syria only to sabotage the other (and often even within their own faction). I suspect the lack of codified succession rules and institutions encouraging stable rule independently encouraged a certain kind of character and unfettered personal ambition which lead to constant infighting in both areas.

 

[Fig Kommandant]

Can anyone elaborate on why the maps for CK3 and Vicky 3 are so bad? I've only played them a little bit, haven't played Imperator, only played EU4 extensively but overall they don't seem that different, or am I blind?

 

[Blackstar]

Can anyone elaborate on why the maps for CK3 and Vicky 3 are so bad? I've only played them a little bit, haven't played Imperator, only played EU4 extensively but overall they don't seem that different, or am I blind?

Imperator:

Imperator vs Vic 3:

Vic 3:

CK3: