🐱 Parler, the Trumpy Alternative to Twitter, Is Already Falling Apart

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June was a grim month for Donald Trump supporters on Twitter. The social media giant was adding warning labels to some of the president’s tweets, and banned an internet-famous MAGA “meme-smith.”

Fearful that more crackdowns would soon follow, Trump supporters began to flock to Parler, a budding social network that bills itself as the free-speech, conservative-friendly alternative to Twitter.

Prominent Trump supporters joined the platform and urged their fans to follow, and the social media network surged onApple’s App Store. Trash-talking Trump personality Dan Bongino took an ownership stake in Parler, and promoted it to his followers.

At the height of Parlermania, Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA), who was on the verge of losing an attempt to sue Twitter over a parody account, compared Twitter to dead social network Myspace amid the Parler exodus.

Only a few weeks later, though, Parler is drawing criticism from some of its ideological allies even as some of MAGA world’s biggest names lose interest in the platform. With slowing momentum and few liberals for Parler users to joust with, Parler faces the prospect of once again becoming a social media backwater even after being embraced by some of the right’s biggest names.

Parler didn’t respond to a request for comment.

Parler’s restrictive terms of service have taken fire from liberals mocking the site, who pointed out that the site’s unusual rules included requirements for users to pay for Parler’s legal fees if they were involved in a lawsuit against the site and a strange provision about how Parler would handle users’ Social Security numbers. Now conservatives have also started to criticize those same restrictions.

“Parler is not the free speech utopia that Trump allies hope for,” a Monday op-ed in the Washington Examiner warned.


As a part-owner in Parler, Bongino has also become its most vocal defender. Bongino, a former Secret Service agent, fumed at the Examiner op-ed as “INACCURATE.”

Mindy Robinson, a pro-Trump actress with more than 200,000 Twitter followers, has become an outspoken Parler critic, claiming the site is hardly the free-speech paradise it’s portrayed as. Robinson slammed Bongino, accusing him of shilling for the site because he had a stake in it.

“Parler is not only sketchy [as fuck] when it comes to their terms of service, but also practices worse and more flippant censorship than either Twitter or Facebook,” Robinson tweeted at Bongino. “You’re only peddling it because you’re making money from it.”

Bongino’s clout hasn’t been enough to silence Parler’s other critics on the right, either. Human Events editor-in-chief Will Chamberlain fretted to Politico that the rush to Parler would effectively wall off conservatives just months before an election.


“Twitter is interesting because there's so many people, prominent people, that can be influenced,” Chamberlain said. “Parler is not that.”

The site has also failed to catch on with some of Trump’s most prominent Twitter allies, many of whom initially praised Parler in its late June boom.

Trump superfan Bill Mitchell, who has amassed more than 580,000 Twitter followers on the strength of his outspoken devotion to the president, tweeted in late June that he was getting better engagement on Parler than he was on Twitter.


But, as of Friday, Mitchell hasn’t posted on Parler for nearly a week—while posting continuously on Twitter.

Parler has been a boon for conservative personalities who have already been banned from Twitter. Anti-Muslim activist and Republican congressional candidate Laura Loomer, for example, has more than 614,000 followers on Parler.

But for Trumpworld stars who haven’t yet been banned from Twitter, Parler may be struggling to distinguish itself as anything more than a place to stash an account—and the followers that come with it—in anticipation of an eventual Twitter ban.

Mitchell, for example, urged his fans to keep using Twitter and only use Parler if they lost their Twitter account.


“It's not perfect but that's where the big names are going,” Mitchell tweeted. “Keep your Twitter but use Parler as your backup if Twitter deletes you.”

Other conservative personalities who were part of the June exodus to Parler haven’t stuck around. Allie Beth Stuckey, who has nearly 300,000 Twitter followers and styles herself as the “Conservative Millennial,” tweeted in June about her Parler account. But Stuckey hasn’t stuck around—she last posted on Parler on July 4, even as she has posted dozens of times on Twitter since then.

Stuckey isn’t alone. Trump campaign senior adviser Jason Miller, for example, urged his followers to make Parler accounts in the late-June rush to the site. But Miller hasn’t posted on the site since June 1, even as he prolifically tweets and retweets every day on Twitter.

Parler is far from dead. As of Friday, it ranked in the top 10 in the Apple App Store in the News category. Nunes and Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL), two of its two most prominent supporters in Congress, still regularly post “parlays”—Parler’s equivalent of tweets.

And Parler could still land Trump himself—the kind of news that would launch the site into the stratosphere.


But there have already been some early signs that Trump’s campaign might not be eager to see the president make the jump to the site. Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale was reportedly considering a move to the platform, but Parscale’s handful of posts on Parler are mostly detailed complaints about its flaws. At one point, Parscale griped that Parler isn’t “contagious.”

“Being fair and balanced isn't enough,” Parscale wrote. “Be cool as well.”
 
Parler launched a year and a half ago being dead the whole time, acting like it only died now is nothing but a gay hitpiece dabbing on irrelevant nobodies well not presenting any new info. Trump isn't going to ever use Parler like he does twitter or he would have already.
This article is unironically taking fucking Mindy Robinson seriously, really? This retarded grifter bimbo??
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Not very surprising, I don't see any "alternative platform" succeeding if the core of it's existance is partisan political fuckery.

They all have marketing backwards, those sites need apolitical fun stuff first, they need to attract everyone not just "Punished Conservative #36289" demo.

Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, YouTube, even fking Tumbrl and TikTok didn't become what they are because their core demo was people who can't see or talk about anything other than political bullshit even if that's what they ended up being.
 
Not very surprising, I don't see any "alternative platform" succeeding if the core of it's existance is partisan political fuckery.

They all have marketing backwards, those sites need apolitical fun stuff first, they need to attract everyone not just "Punished Conservative #36289" demo.

Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, YouTube, even fking Tumbrl and TikTok didn't become what they are because their core demo was people who can't see or talk about anything other than political bullshit even if that's what they ended up being.
Yeah I just came across an article about their echo chamber problem. I shoulda went with that for the op as it seems more interesting lol.

‘Parler feels like a Trump rally’ — and MAGA world says that’s a problem


Republican lawmakers and President Donald Trump’s high-profile Fox News allies are flocking to Parler, the purported unbiased alternative to Twitter — and the MAGA internet isn’t crazy about it.
Over the past few weeks, spurred by Twitter’s attempts to moderate Trump’s tweets, Reddit’s decision to ban a massive pro-Trump subreddit, and the bans coming down on figures like meme creator Logan “Carpe Donktum” Cook, several high-profile conservatives and Trump allies have created accounts on Parler, assured that they can basically say whatever they would like without being booted off the platform. Even better, they were joining a large community of MAGA influencers who have been on Parler since its launch in December 2018, from the mainstream — Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens, for instance — to the fringe figures who’d been banned from Twitter, such as Jacob Wohl, Laura Loomer and Milo Yiannopoulos.
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But to these early adopters — many of whom still have their social media accounts on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook, with massive followings on each — the sudden presence of GOP figures has caused concern that the social media platform may just become a right-wing version of the “safe space” culture they widely mock, with plenty of MAGA stars but few big names from across the ideological spectrum.
The MAGAfication problem is so bad that CEO and founder John Matze has openly begged progressive pundits to join the platform, offering a “progressive bounty” of $20,000 to any left-wing influencer with a following of 50,000 or more users on Twitter who makes an account. And with even establishment conservatives like Sens. Lindsey Graham and Mitt Romney eschewing Parler for now, Trump supporters worry that Parler’s influencers will be preaching to a MAGA choir forever.
“The question is not pure engagement. The question is influence,” said Will Chamberlain, editor-in-chief of the populist magazine Human Events. “Twitter is interesting because there's so many people, prominent people, that can be influenced. Parler is not that.”
Regardless, Parler is rapidly growing: In the past week alone, Parler’s user base has grown from 1 million to 1.5 million users, according to a CNBC interview with Matze. And given the number of conservative influencers on the site — as well as a robust presence of conservative outlets, which don’t have to worry about social media companies shutting off their traffic spigots — there is potential for the site to grow a decently sized conservative audience.
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Adopters have found benefits to the Twitter alternative: It isn’t lousy with white nationalists, like the niche social media site Gab; it has a better user interface than the encrypted messaging service Telegraph; and its commitment to making both sides equally heard is heaven to the ears of people constantly worried that Big Tech, their so-called liberal nemesis, is about to deplatform them.


However, Parler’s user base is still dwarfed by Twitter, which has over 300 million active users, and Facebook, with 2.6 billion active users. Even Parler’s frequent surge in new users may not be indicative of sustained growth and relevance. Google+ — Google’s attempt to launch a Facebook competitor — similarly surged in users before flaming out quickly. And Parler had several unexpected technical hiccups during its initial launch, such as when Owens announced that she was joining in 2018 and swamped the companies’ servers with 40,000 new followers.
Moreover, conservative attempts to clonepre-existing internet behemoths — Conservapedia, Conservative Fact Check, the infinite attempts to make a Facebook clone — have rarely, if ever, produced an actual winner.
“Every time conservatives try to build the conservative MoveOn or the conservative YouTube or the conservative …. whatever, it never works,” said Matt Lewis, a Trump-critical conservative columnist at the Daily Beast. “This feels like an attempt to re-create the conservative version of Twitter. Maybe it will work out this time, but the track record isn’t good.”
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But even if the site grows, the element Parler will find difficult to replicate is Twitter’s vast variety of communities, celebrities and influencers — particularly if they didn’t feel inclined to join what’s increasingly known as a MAGA platform.
Much of Twitter’s draw, after all, is seeing high-profile people from different ideological backgrounds go after each other. If, for instance, Donald Trump Jr. leaves Twitter for Parler, he won’t be able to get into a real-time social media war with progressive Twitter darling Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.). Nor could Trump himself — the white whale of Parler, who has yet to join the site — direct his nearly 83 million followers to spam the account of a Hollywood celebrity or a Democrat politician who criticized him.


“Until those people start getting on, I think it’s going to be insular,” said Jack Posobiec, a MAGA personality, former Pizzagate proponent and a correspondent for the pro-Trump One America News Network. “And that’s OK. People do like to be able to feel safe. People kind of feel like they’re at a party right now. But the energy of Twitter comes from having different communities on it. And that energy isn't there right now. Right now, Parler feels like a Trump rally.”
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Chamberlain said Parler seems like an easy-out solution to what was ultimately conservatives’ biggest internet problem: their perceived censorship on the platforms with the biggest audiences.
“There are a lot of libertarian-leaning legislators who find that really appealing because they don’t like the idea of using government to regulate Big Tech,” he said. “They can say, ‘Oh, look at Parler. We don't need to do anything, everybody should just move over to Parler.’”
For now, Parler is the hot new thing on the right, populated by a growing number of right-wing celebrities, right-wing fans and people who would like to troll both of these constituencies by creating fake accounts in their names. The trolls, Posobiec said, are “a weird sort of sign of a healthy online digital commons, because that’s sort of the sign that people from the other side are getting on.”
But unless real political and ideological opponents follow them off Twitter and go on Parler, the site will be little more than a perpetual Trump party where everyone can yammer all day about how Trump is the best, with no pushback.
“I would love to be able to leave for Parler,” Chamberlain said. “I would love to ignore Twitter, but my job isn’t just getting engagement. My job is influencing public conversation, the way I see it. And I need Twitter for that.”
 
Parler is far from dead. As of Friday, it ranked in the top 10 in the Apple App Store in the News category. Nunes and Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL), two of its two most prominent supporters in Congress, still regularly post “parlays”—Parler’s equivalent of tweets.
This is the part where the attentive reader should realize that this article's headline is just dishonest and sensationalist hyperbole. What's happening is that it's getting criticized for its policies, just like Twitter has been.
 
Parler is screwed. Without libtards and commies to "debate" at it's already becoming a self-cannibalizing vacuum of right-wing splinter groups.

I really hope that it follows through with it's policies to hold users accountable for legal fees, though. Nothing says free market and small government good than getting a lawsuit tax for posting pepes taken from r/TheDonald.
 
Parler is screwed. Without libtards and commies to "debate" at it's already becoming a self-cannibalizing vacuum of right-wing splinter groups.

I really hope that it follows through with it's policies to hold users accountable for legal fees, though. Nothing says free market and small government good than getting a lawsuit tax for posting pepes taken from r/TheDonald.
Worse than that it has the same problem Gab did: What are people going to talk about there besides politics? Nobody is going to be posting their cute cat pictures and tech discussions or butt selfies. Its an echo chamber just like Gab. Worse than Gab it is boring even for an echo chamber.
 
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Worse than that it has the same problem Gab did: What are people going to talk about there besides politics? Nobody is going to be posting their cute cat pictures and tech discussions or butt selfies. Its an echo chamber just like Gab. Worse than Gab it is a boring even for an echo chamber.
It’s worse than gab because of the boomeritits it suffers
 
Not very surprising, I don't see any "alternative platform" succeeding if the core of it's existance is partisan political fuckery.

They all have marketing backwards, those sites need apolitical fun stuff first, they need to attract everyone not just "Punished Conservative #36289" demo.

Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, YouTube, even fking Tumbrl and TikTok didn't become what they are because their core demo was people who can't see or talk about anything other than political bullshit even if that's what they ended up being.
I don't think there's ever been a successful platform or product that advertised itself as "Not X." Just look at all the games in the past that tried to call themselves the "WoW Killer" and then promptly ate an entire bag of shit. You just can't market yourself as a negative because most of the people will already be using the 'primary' product because it's probably better which is why it was successful.

Facebook didn't attract people by being the anti-MySpace, it attracted people by being a better platform that offered something entirely different, and YouTube didn't (originally) pull people away from televisions by just being anti-television, it was something entirely different. I can't think of a single example of a product marketing itself as an alternative to a larger product and managing to succeed.
 
Social media is popular because its "social", twitter is the most "social" instance, so anything that tries to go against it is bound to fail since only a very small minority of people who use twitter are on the chopping block. Any alternative will quickly become completely homogeneous in nature, lacking varied content that draws general users (various memes, news, sports, tv, celebrities, etc).
The only alternatives that spring up and seem to stick around are Japanese alternatives centering around R18 cartoon drawings that would get them driven off of Twitter.
 
Yeah I just came across an article about their echo chamber problem. I shoulda went with that for the op as it seems more interesting lol.
What it is surrounded on all sides by opaque walls, how can it not become an echo chamber? Has anyone actually seen the inside of Parler? Not many, surely. Seems more like a scam of a containment platform intended to waste the time of conservative types who were run off of Twitter.
 
What it is surrounded on all sides by opaque walls, how can it not become an echo chamber? Has anyone actually seen the inside of Parler? Not many, surely. Seems more like a scam of a containment platform intended to waste the time of conservative types who were run off of Twitter.
They already have thedonald and A&N, so I am not sure why they need another platform to circlejerk at
 
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I never heard of it until yesterday, and the people who are promoting it on my Facebook page are no surprise to me.

I also predict that it will shortly end up on Tor.
 
Yeah I just came across an article about their echo chamber problem. I shoulda went with that for the op as it seems more interesting lol.

‘Parler feels like a Trump rally’ — and MAGA world says that’s a problem


Republican lawmakers and President Donald Trump’s high-profile Fox News allies are flocking to Parler, the purported unbiased alternative to Twitter — and the MAGA internet isn’t crazy about it.
Over the past few weeks, spurred by Twitter’s attempts to moderate Trump’s tweets, Reddit’s decision to ban a massive pro-Trump subreddit, and the bans coming down on figures like meme creator Logan “Carpe Donktum” Cook, several high-profile conservatives and Trump allies have created accounts on Parler, assured that they can basically say whatever they would like without being booted off the platform. Even better, they were joining a large community of MAGA influencers who have been on Parler since its launch in December 2018, from the mainstream — Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens, for instance — to the fringe figures who’d been banned from Twitter, such as Jacob Wohl, Laura Loomer and Milo Yiannopoulos.
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But to these early adopters — many of whom still have their social media accounts on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook, with massive followings on each — the sudden presence of GOP figures has caused concern that the social media platform may just become a right-wing version of the “safe space” culture they widely mock, with plenty of MAGA stars but few big names from across the ideological spectrum.
The MAGAfication problem is so bad that CEO and founder John Matze has openly begged progressive pundits to join the platform, offering a “progressive bounty” of $20,000 to any left-wing influencer with a following of 50,000 or more users on Twitter who makes an account. And with even establishment conservatives like Sens. Lindsey Graham and Mitt Romney eschewing Parler for now, Trump supporters worry that Parler’s influencers will be preaching to a MAGA choir forever.
“The question is not pure engagement. The question is influence,” said Will Chamberlain, editor-in-chief of the populist magazine Human Events. “Twitter is interesting because there's so many people, prominent people, that can be influenced. Parler is not that.”
Regardless, Parler is rapidly growing: In the past week alone, Parler’s user base has grown from 1 million to 1.5 million users, according to a CNBC interview with Matze. And given the number of conservative influencers on the site — as well as a robust presence of conservative outlets, which don’t have to worry about social media companies shutting off their traffic spigots — there is potential for the site to grow a decently sized conservative audience.
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Adopters have found benefits to the Twitter alternative: It isn’t lousy with white nationalists, like the niche social media site Gab; it has a better user interface than the encrypted messaging service Telegraph; and its commitment to making both sides equally heard is heaven to the ears of people constantly worried that Big Tech, their so-called liberal nemesis, is about to deplatform them.


However, Parler’s user base is still dwarfed by Twitter, which has over 300 million active users, and Facebook, with 2.6 billion active users. Even Parler’s frequent surge in new users may not be indicative of sustained growth and relevance. Google+ — Google’s attempt to launch a Facebook competitor — similarly surged in users before flaming out quickly. And Parler had several unexpected technical hiccups during its initial launch, such as when Owens announced that she was joining in 2018 and swamped the companies’ servers with 40,000 new followers.
Moreover, conservative attempts to clonepre-existing internet behemoths — Conservapedia, Conservative Fact Check, the infinite attempts to make a Facebook clone — have rarely, if ever, produced an actual winner.
“Every time conservatives try to build the conservative MoveOn or the conservative YouTube or the conservative …. whatever, it never works,” said Matt Lewis, a Trump-critical conservative columnist at the Daily Beast. “This feels like an attempt to re-create the conservative version of Twitter. Maybe it will work out this time, but the track record isn’t good.”
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But even if the site grows, the element Parler will find difficult to replicate is Twitter’s vast variety of communities, celebrities and influencers — particularly if they didn’t feel inclined to join what’s increasingly known as a MAGA platform.
Much of Twitter’s draw, after all, is seeing high-profile people from different ideological backgrounds go after each other. If, for instance, Donald Trump Jr. leaves Twitter for Parler, he won’t be able to get into a real-time social media war with progressive Twitter darling Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.). Nor could Trump himself — the white whale of Parler, who has yet to join the site — direct his nearly 83 million followers to spam the account of a Hollywood celebrity or a Democrat politician who criticized him.


“Until those people start getting on, I think it’s going to be insular,” said Jack Posobiec, a MAGA personality, former Pizzagate proponent and a correspondent for the pro-Trump One America News Network. “And that’s OK. People do like to be able to feel safe. People kind of feel like they’re at a party right now. But the energy of Twitter comes from having different communities on it. And that energy isn't there right now. Right now, Parler feels like a Trump rally.”
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Chamberlain said Parler seems like an easy-out solution to what was ultimately conservatives’ biggest internet problem: their perceived censorship on the platforms with the biggest audiences.
“There are a lot of libertarian-leaning legislators who find that really appealing because they don’t like the idea of using government to regulate Big Tech,” he said. “They can say, ‘Oh, look at Parler. We don't need to do anything, everybody should just move over to Parler.’”
For now, Parler is the hot new thing on the right, populated by a growing number of right-wing celebrities, right-wing fans and people who would like to troll both of these constituencies by creating fake accounts in their names. The trolls, Posobiec said, are “a weird sort of sign of a healthy online digital commons, because that’s sort of the sign that people from the other side are getting on.”
But unless real political and ideological opponents follow them off Twitter and go on Parler, the site will be little more than a perpetual Trump party where everyone can yammer all day about how Trump is the best, with no pushback.
“I would love to be able to leave for Parler,” Chamberlain said. “I would love to ignore Twitter, but my job isn’t just getting engagement. My job is influencing public conversation, the way I see it. And I need Twitter for that.”
This all just sounds like reverse Twitter. A bunch of political zombies jerking each other off? People who dissent being chased away? That's literally Twitter except it's a different side doing it, which somehow makes it a problem.

The only real difference is that conservative boomers are willing to cross the aisle because they actually think they can logic and reason their way into genuine conversation with the horde of psychotic transgender polyamorous furries, because they're old and dumb. No leftist would ever cross the aisle even if you paid them, as we see here. It's admittedly a very important difference though, because it means people keep joining Twitter because there's an endless supply of naive people out there.
 
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