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- Jan 19, 2018
Phil's Patreon has been a source of confusion for many here, so I figured I would make a thread/post and try to clear up confusion once and for all.
1) Originally, Phil's Patreon was set up such that money was only collected at the end of the month. Accordingly, people would troll by "pledging" large amounts ($50+) and then rescinding the pledge before the end of the month, making it difficult for Phil to judge if he was meeting his Patreon goals or not.
2) To counter this, Phil change his Patreon so that any new pledges or pledge increases were charged immediately. Not a dumb move, tbh. Patreon, however, only shows the current pledged total, so if someone increases a pledge and then immediately lowers it back down, Phil gets the money, but the public-facing total doesn't seem to change.
3) @SoapQueen1 started tracking the Patreon pledge total and number of patrons to try and capture these types of pledge changes and more accurately reflect Phil's true take from Patreon. When they had to step away, I started doing it.
4) One really important note here--despite Phil's claims to the contrary, the public-facing pledge total accounts for Patreon's expected fees (which total ~10% in most cases, it seems). Most famously, Phil kept talking about a pledge goal of $1250 while his Patreon page showed $1125. Simple math gives that $1250 * 0.9 = $1125, so everything was as it should be. Phil being Phil, however, acted like Patreon was pulling some black magic shit that he couldn't explain.
Anyway, I hope that clears some things up.If you look at Phil's Patreon right now, his pledge total is $614.77 (shows as $615), but he's had new pledges and pledge increases totaling $163.01, so he's standing to get something like $778. I'm working on tracking gained and lost pledges as well, but we'll see how that goes.
It occurred to me that new pledges that stuck around would end up in the public-facing total, so I wasn't counting these correctly. Currently, public total = $614.77, which includes brand-new pledges. There's also been increased pledges totaling $84.81, so the accurate total = $699.58.
1) Originally, Phil's Patreon was set up such that money was only collected at the end of the month. Accordingly, people would troll by "pledging" large amounts ($50+) and then rescinding the pledge before the end of the month, making it difficult for Phil to judge if he was meeting his Patreon goals or not.
2) To counter this, Phil change his Patreon so that any new pledges or pledge increases were charged immediately. Not a dumb move, tbh. Patreon, however, only shows the current pledged total, so if someone increases a pledge and then immediately lowers it back down, Phil gets the money, but the public-facing total doesn't seem to change.
3) @SoapQueen1 started tracking the Patreon pledge total and number of patrons to try and capture these types of pledge changes and more accurately reflect Phil's true take from Patreon. When they had to step away, I started doing it.
4) One really important note here--despite Phil's claims to the contrary, the public-facing pledge total accounts for Patreon's expected fees (which total ~10% in most cases, it seems). Most famously, Phil kept talking about a pledge goal of $1250 while his Patreon page showed $1125. Simple math gives that $1250 * 0.9 = $1125, so everything was as it should be. Phil being Phil, however, acted like Patreon was pulling some black magic shit that he couldn't explain.
Anyway, I hope that clears some things up.
It occurred to me that new pledges that stuck around would end up in the public-facing total, so I wasn't counting these correctly. Currently, public total = $614.77, which includes brand-new pledges. There's also been increased pledges totaling $84.81, so the accurate total = $699.58.
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fftopic: Is the OP post "You're gonna learn today" a reference to this?
