Charlie / penguinz0 / moistcr1tikal - Angry and bigtime Youtuber and Twitch Stream, going off rails

[AnimeSucksCopeAndSneed]

Charlie hopping off the fence is literally the beginning of the end of his career.

 

[Squatty Potty]

A lot of troons don't even advocate for the dick chopping surgery for kids, because they know how optically terrible it looks. Charlie didn't get the memo and ended up getting felted by sneako. Sad!

 

[warhammerautist]

Sneako would have only slightly came off as a winner if he argued that his age of consent is using some 3rd world country rules as his excuse but it wouldn't have helped him much face scrutiny on twitter anyways. Sneako could have won the moral high ground saying the age of consent is 18 but was retarded enough not to do it. I think XQC would have had a good chance beating charlie in that debate.

 

[Caligura]

Looks like Moistyboi has accidentally fallen off the fence he's been sitting on for years and now he has no idea how to defend his beliefs because he never had any genuinely held beliefs to begin with

Imagine Charlie being invited to a 2018-era Internet Bloodsports stream, lmao he'd get fucking wrecked.

 

[DOORSTUCK]

Even with a superficial glance of sneako and his association with the furrhrer, it appears as though charlie found himself in a tight spot trying to argue against minor castration. I hope to see that the privatization of the video is futile and he makes a stance for once in his public life.

 

[Aunt Carol]

Fucking unreal. This longhaired faggot doesn't even understand the process himself as an adult who I think has some kind of formal higher education. Kids don't take HRT, the rationale is hormone blockers until 18, then they decide again. You don't just immediately start to douse a child with estradiol without hormone blockers. I don't even know the exact process and intricate science behind troonery myself. I'll need a day on NIH first and even then I won't give any advice because I'm not qualified.

Both these fuckers should be fed to a woodchipper. Feet first.

Everybody is a normie on some subjects. Charlie doesn't have kids or friends with kids, and he doesn't seem to have any visible troons in his orbit; it's likely he's never thought about the details of this much. Being upset with a normie for not knowing how troons make the sausage is the kind of thing that makes other middle-of-the-roadies say "wow, both sides are crazy."

If you look at the KF "When did you hit peak trans?" thread, a lot of people here started out with a vague "live and let live" based on the pre-2000s understanding of transsexualism, before they did as they were told, educated themselves, and got to know more and more TRAs and listened to what they had to say. And were horrified by it.

Charlie was trying to articulate a stance on the fly, on camera, but part of being middle-of-the-road about troons is not knowing what troonery entails, so he had no clue what he was doing or getting into. Getting grilled on the trans articles of faith with your career on the line has to be the closest this childless man will come to the sinking feeling of having his beloved child "come out" to him as a troon.

What will be the most telling is what Charlie comes back with, after having time to look things up, think about them, and figure out what he's gotten into. I'm not at all optimistic that he'll rise again as a fiery shitlord, but a "staying in my lane" video and then never mentioning trans stuff again would be cowardly but better than a Performative Trans Activism 101 arc.

 

[Vibralldo]

Charlie hopping off the fence is literally the beginning of the end of his career.

Based on evidence, supporting tranny pedophiles will make you a rich and highly successful Internet personality

 

[Blazing Piety]

I hope this pissing match will set things into motion so that I never have to see or hear about either of these people again - especially Critikal with his need to make a video about how "crazy" some situation is in response to literally any public event. I'd find him more tolerable if he at least had a spine and took an actual stance on things instead of fencesitting all the time.

 

[#lurker]

Charlie for some reason is debating Sneako on stream, and Charlie defends children taking hormone therapy as long as the parents and kid consent.
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Even if he actually believes that, Charlie should've had the intelligence to see the glaring contradiction and pretend he didn't have a stance on children transitioning. What an absolute retard.
That's the problem with having cookie-cutter opinions that "ride the wave." It doesn't matter how good of a "surfer" you are; eventually the wave breaks.

 

[Caligura]

Based on evidence, supporting tranny pedophiles will make you a rich and highly successful Internet personality

[Post-Sneako PR victory]: Based on evidence, supporting """right-wing""" pedophiles will make you a highly successful Internet personality

 

[Hectic Heckler]

Oh no, with Chuck being pro-child-mutilation, who will I turn to for safe, milquetoast takes made after the majority opinion on a topic has been stated?

 

[Meth Dick]

This video title could not have aged any better

 

[BibiLivesMatter]

@mlanguishi SO, I was able to go back on a tab that had your post/stream open before it was removed. Screen recorded the portion of livestream where he talked about the child transitioning statement. Audio is good and I got the whole thing, HOWEVER few seconds in the video just freezes to a still image. With that in mind and no solution, I just converted it to MP3, cause there was no visuals after 10 seconds in.

Here is a recording in full, of his response to the child Transitioning Statement from the debate. it's raw five minutes, anyone is welcome to make time stamps in it for there is empty air in two spots at the end. Several instances of him coping and deflecting attention towards Sneako and doubling down in some parts.

 

[SentinentCloud]

also anyone with the name moist in their username is already a good clause for termination of account if i am tbh

 

[Zertes]

For all his faults sneako is a professional debate bro, Charlie shouldn't have accepted his offer to debate. Now he got a major headache for himself

 

[Mr. Manchester]

Oh no, with Chuck being pro-child-mutilation, who will I turn to for safe, milquetoast takes made after the majority opinion on a topic has been stated?

Your answer likes in Sneed my brother.

 

[Chainsaw Man]

For all his faults sneako is a professional debate bro, Charlie shouldn't have accepted his offer to debate. Now he got a major headache for himself

In Charlies' defense, from what I remember, he did do decently in their last debate together, it's just this time he picked a retarded position that he had no idea how to defend.

 

[Lowercase I internet]

Looks like Moistyboi has accidentally fallen off the fence he's been sitting on for years and now he has no idea how to defend his beliefs because he never had any genuinely held beliefs to begin with

He touched a topic where it’s practically impossible to ride a fence. If he says children are not able to consent to life altering surgeries he’s transphobic, if he says they are able to consent he sounds insane. Either way he loses.

Watching this man sputter through his words trying to backtrack and find some semblance of a middle ground on such a divisive topic is very funny. “I thought Sneako was being hyperbolic, I don’t actually believe kids can consent to that stuff, unless uhhhh my audience wants me to.” Looking forward to see how this plays out.

 

[AltisticRight]

Charlie was trying to articulate a stance on the fly, on camera, but part of being middle-of-the-road about troons is not knowing what troonery entails, so he had no clue what he was doing or getting into. Getting grilled on the trans articles of faith with your career on the line has to be the closest this childless man will come to the sinking feeling of having his beloved child "come out" to him as a troon.

I don't think he has a leg to stand on. He's an adult, he should be long past the phase of edgy lolbertarianism.
If you asked me about the Yemen situation or Venezuela situation, I'll tell you I don't know much to form an opinion. I might just say war sucks and leave it there.
If it's about China and Taiwan, I'll preface it with saying I'm highly biased.
Israel/Palestine or Ru/Ukr the same.

If I was put in that place, I would just say "I need to read it up to form an informed opinion". There's nothing wrong with not knowing. I would first ask how old the kid is. 16? Don't know. 8? Fuck no should be the response of literally anyone who's not insane.

"As long as the kid and parent says yes it's fine" is nuts. A child cannot consent to life-altering medical procedures. The nonce Sneako himself even said "so you think it's fine for a kid to have cock & balls removed etc." and Charlie still didn't budge.
That doesn't make this guy a lolcow (yet) but he came off as an insane faggot. The troons still weren't happy, maybe take the hint Charlie, it's about time for TTD don't you think?

 

[warhammerautist]

List of Troonery events.
-Asmongold covers drama on some two Vtubers silvervale and pikamee getting harassed for playing hogwarts legacy which resulted in troon witch hunting on Twitter
-Some vtuber named Froot gets clowned on Twitter for a donation stream to a trans organization known for grooming kids into troonery.
-Dr.disrespect gets targeted by ex-Twitch staff, Twitch staff was also well known for getting pissed off at NickMercs statements that kids in school should not be taught LGBT shit in which they were trying to tag him to the drama. Give nick a ban later for using a derogatory word for trans which he responded I will use the word mental illness next time on twitter.
-Kris Tyson pedophile claims blow up.
-Mr.Beast gets his ass chewed out on Twitter
-Ludwig gets his ass chewed out on Twitter.
-Hasanabi gets his ass chewed out on Twitter.
-Pokimane and Valkyrie get their asses chewed out on Twitter.
-moistcritical is getting his ass more chewed out now on Twitter.
-Sneako and Keemstar come out as winners for shit posting on Twitter.
-Twitter is trending going full troon execution style with the Paris Olympics showing troons in the event.

I just dont get Twitch at all or why these streamers want to choose a hill to die on by picking a losing side in politics. Even if I came out as a liberal I would not want my image to get smothered in shit. I am wondering who is paying these streamers because even Twitch or the streamers using that platform should know better that Twitter is not their friend the moment Musk bought it giving some questionable people their accounts back.