🐱 Please Don’t be Ableist When You Talk About the Mental Health of Fictional Characters

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Last week, at San Diego Comic-Con, I was determined to be the biggest nerd at a giant nerd convention, so I attended a panel called “Who’s the Most Neurotic Superhero Now?,” which consisted of psychologists and writers analyzing superheroes. Why try to see your favorite movie stars in person when you could find out where Batman falls in the DSM-5? Despite the asinine title of the panel, I was hoping the panelists would get into the nitty-gritty of trauma and mental illness in the superhero world. I should have known better.

Understanding why fictional characters do the things they do helps us relate to them, especially when those of us with old traumas, mental illness, or disabilities recognize ourselves in those characters. Take Wanda Maximoff, for example. Throughout Phases 1-4 of the MCU, Wanda loses everyone in her life: her parents, her brother, her lover, her (admittedly imaginary) children. That kind of trauma has two parts to it: the pain over the horrible stuff that’s already happened, and the fear that it’ll happen again. When you experience trauma, your brain gets rewired to expect more trauma.

Think about the moment in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, when Wanda says she wants America’s powers in case Billy and Tommy ever get sick. You could read that line as a villain’s rationalization for hoarding power, but it actually made perfect sense to me. Her kids dying of an incurable illness might seem like a long shot to other people, but Wanda’s been trained to see death as a constant, pressing threat. Take that trauma, compounded by the effects of the Darkhold and the fact that apparently no other Avenger ever checked in on her ever, and you have a “supervillain” whose actions are relatable and understandable, even when they’re morally repugnant.

So that was what I was hoping for out of this panel. But it’s not what we got.

The panel kicked off by defining psychosis and psychopathy, two traits commonly attributed to supervillains. I was expecting a nuanced and clinical discussion, since these are real conditions that real people deal with. Instead, one of the panelists said that psychosis is “when you’re seeing pink elephants … or when you think you’re a pink elephant!”

He paused for laughter (at least, I think that’s why he paused), but no one laughed.

Then the moderator asked him to define psychopathy. He summed it up in one word: “Evil.”

This guy has a PhD. He teaches psychology to people who are then going to go out and treat people with mental illness! If I ever experience psychosis, I don’t want my doctor laughing behind my back and joking that I think I’m a pink elephant.

Compare that dehumanizing language to accounts of psychosis by people who have actually exprienced it, like writer Esmé Weijun Wang. In her essay “Perdition Days,” Wang describes suffering from a form of psychosis called Cotard’s syndrome:

I spent much of my time in catatonic psychosis, a form of agitation characterized by overactive movement or no movement at all, and I lay in my bed feeling psychic agony more excruciating than any personal experience of physical pain.
But sure, pink elephants. Ha ha ha.

Also consider the physiological causes of psychopathy, like a lack of grey matter in the limbic system or an underdeveloped amygdala. It’s really hard to write someone off as evil, no matter what they’ve done, when you realize that they’re just working with the equipment they’ve been given.

Why is it important not to be ableist when you’re talking about fictional characters? Look, I know the characters themselves don’t care, because they’re not real. But when you dehumanize characters with mental illness, real people with mental illness can hear you. If you see fictional people with mental illness as jokes, then what conclusions should we draw about how you see their real-life counterparts?

Plus, reducing characters to one-dimensional stereotypes isn’t just hurtful and harmful. It’s lazy and boring, too. No one learned anything new or interesting about our favorite characters at that SDCC panel. All we learned is that many of the people entrusted with our care don’t seem to see us as human.

Of course, that’s nothing new, either.
 
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Honestly, when has anyone ever given a shit about mental states of a character? Besides that time someone tried to lay out that every member of Batman’s rogues gallery was representing a different mental illness?

I bet this person believes a lot of “in a coma” or “in the hospital and other characters are people in there” or “all in someone’s head” theories as well.
 
Disgusting fucking dysfunctional. Hate being around you goddamn eggshells. Pathetic, mewling wrecks. I'm not even being ironic. You are nothing but walking disasters. Better to line you up and shoot you down. If you can only function on pills, I'm not sure what use there is for you. You're just one missed prescription away from throwing it all out a window. Even more pathetic if you're one of those snowflakes who take antidepressants without being legit chronic depressed.

I can be as 'ableist' as I want to be because I am a functioning member of society, and you oh so painfully love not shutting up about how much you aren't.
Honestly, when has anyone ever given a shit about mental states of a character? Besides that time someone tried to lay out that every member of Batman’s rogues gallery was representing a different mental illness?

I bet this person believes a lot of “in a coma” or “in the hospital and other characters are people in there” or “all in someone’s head” theories as well.
Whatever state you are in is no excuse for your actions, good or bad. Dealt a lot with that horseshit growing up. Either put the mentally ill in a bin or against the wall. There is only pain and misery in tolerating them.
 
It's autistic as hell to expect serious themes from capeshit. When comics did turn dark it was a controversial surprise for being children's media.
This line of thinking is how Batman in reddit culture was turned from a crime-fighting detective into a physical therapist for nutjobs.
 
Fuck off retard the best superhero was Handi Man.

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Fictional characters do things because the writer let them do things, you fucking retard.
And then that leads to discussions about writer motivations beyond “I want to”. It never ends.

Disgusting fucking dysfunctional. Hate being around you goddamn eggshells. Pathetic, mewling wrecks. I'm not even being ironic. You are nothing but walking disasters. Better to line you up and shoot you down. If you can only function on pills, I'm not sure what use there is for you. You're just one missed prescription away from throwing it all out a window. Even more pathetic if you're one of those snowflakes who take antidepressants without being legit chronic depressed.

I can be as 'ableist' as I want to be because I am a functioning member of society, and you oh so painfully love not shutting up about how much you aren't.

Whatever state you are in is no excuse for your actions, good or bad. Dealt a lot with that horseshit growing up. Either put the mentally ill in a bin or against the wall. There is only pain and misery in tolerating them.
Sir, this is a Wendy’s.
It's autistic as hell to expect serious themes from capeshit. When comics did turn dark it was a controversial surprise for being children's media.
This line of thinking is how Batman in reddit culture was turned from a crime-fighting detective into a physical therapist for nutjobs.
Don’t forget discussions of how else Batman can use his billions.
 
Disgusting fucking dysfunctional. Hate being around you goddamn eggshells. Pathetic, mewling wrecks. I'm not even being ironic. You are nothing but walking disasters. Better to line you up and shoot you down. If you can only function on pills, I'm not sure what use there is for you. You're just one missed prescription away from throwing it all out a window. Even more pathetic if you're one of those snowflakes who take antidepressants without being legit chronic depressed.

I can be as 'ableist' as I want to be because I am a functioning member of society, and you oh so painfully love not shutting up about how much you aren't.

Whatever state you are in is no excuse for your actions, good or bad. Dealt a lot with that horseshit growing up. Either put the mentally ill in a bin or against the wall. There is only pain and misery in tolerating them.
YES! More!!
 
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