Proship discourse - People Who Think They’re Fandom Saviors For Being Open About Their Disgusting Fetishes (zoophile/pedophile/necrophilia/incest/rape/etc) and the people that oppose them.

[Cryptojew]

Mouse/Tom and Lizcourserants did. In fact, both of them continue to double down on them ever saying Ang was dead. Liz even admits the attention was all on Kyle for his purported crimes until the MTF started running his mouth.

>Jane screencapped one of my KF posts and put it on twitter
The screencap is too small for me to clearly read what he's saying, but I feel like I've really made it now.

 

[DontScareMeImHugged]

>Jane screencapped one of my KF posts and put it on twitter
The screencap is too small for me to clearly read what he's saying, but I feel like I've really made it now.

Still wearing my badge of honor from when he screencapped me in his callout.

 

[Kiwisee]

>Jane screencapped one of my KF posts and put it on twitter
The screencap is too small for me to clearly read what he's saying, but I feel like I've really made it now.

Don’t forget about us when you get famous!

Anyways, I find it amusing how proshippers don’t deny that they’re degenerates but they resort to deflecting every single time they’re called one.

 

[Somerandoontheweb]

I didn't know wether to post it in this thread or in the tranny sideshow thread but I thought it was on topic.
"I know we're still stuck on" fiction is not real harm " but can we also mention that posting is not either?"
If an internet user posted continually about how black people are subhumans and deserve to be shot, noone would be surprised if they actually end up killing a black person. But god forbid you assume that someone who get off to pedophilia and publicly post about their actual attraction to minors might not be safe around children. Especially if this person is "oppressed".
What enrage me the most about proshippers is their hypocrisy. Rape and pedophilia written to be titillating pose no threat to children but the moment you say something or write something that hurt (lgb) T people's feelings, suddenly fiction and words cause real harms and you deserve to be bullied into silence.

 

[DontScareMeImHugged]

I didn't know wether to post it in this thread or in the tranny sideshow thread but I thought it was on topic.
"I know we're still stuck on" fiction is not real harm " but can we also mention that posting is not either?"
If an internet user posted continually about how black people are subhumans and deserve to be shot, noone would be surprised if they actually end up killing a black person. But god forbid you assume that someone who get off to pedophilia and publicly post about their actual attraction to minors might not be safe around children. Especially if this person is "oppressed".
What enrage me the most about proshippers is their hypocrisy. Rape and pedophilia written to be titillating pose no threat to children but the moment you say something or write something that hurt (lgb) T people's feelings, suddenly fiction and words cause real harms and you deserve to be bullied into silence.

Stuff like this is why I support Poland, Russia, Egypt, Iran and the rest of the Middle East and Eastern Europe's stance on this garbage.

 

[Mankirk]

If an internet user posted continually about how black people are subhumans and deserve to be shot, noone would be surprised if they actually end up killing a black person.

Actually yes, I would, because everybody hates niggers, but they kill themselves more than they're killed by racists. Despite what The News would have you think.

 

[Kalsarikännit]

Honestly a Vee thread would be really useful, because information about her is all over the place and she has this army of people lying for her and trying really hard to make it seem like she is some type of victim. Even if she hasn't done much these past few months the thread could still include information about her weird comic (and her friend who is a convicted pedophile, seriously how is almost no one talking about this outside KF), her multiple accounts (including this one whre she RP as a littlle sister), her conexions to Laika Albarn, she faking her death...

Seconding, I found out about her from /co/. Doesn’t she suicide bait all the time? I highly doubt she actually went through with it. Pedos like to lie like that and resurface with a different persona later (which she has already done a few times).

Edit: went back and read further, of course she faked it. If anyone wants to start compiling information on her, I have some stuff saved from those /co/ threads somewhere that I’m sure would be helpful. Vee has a tendency to DFE.

 

[Baron Vain]

Seconding, I found out about her from /co/. Doesn’t she suicide bait all the time? I highly doubt she actually went through with it. Pedos like to lie like that and resurface with a different persona later (which she has already done a few times).

Edit: went back and read further, of course she faked it. If anyone wants to start compiling information on her, I have some stuff saved from those /co/ threads somewhere that I’m sure would be helpful. Vee has a tendency to DFE.

Suicide bait? I think you meant sadfishing. (Suicide baiting and sadfishing have two different meanings, just correcting here).

Yeah, other than that Vee is a faker.

 

[Chandelier]

Mouse/Tom and Lizcourserants continue to defend Vee, and continue to deny they promoted her suicide. Archive.



Mouse openly said, as documented in this thread, that she said Ang was dead. She and Liz wanted to go after Kyle Carozza. Now they're playing the game of "I never said that." I got receipts too, bitch.

Archive.

Vivzie also played a role in Amy's firing. https://ghostarchive.org/archive/2XVcH

 

[Chandelier]

Mouse complains when people call her a pedophile on her fics. I am sure her support of Prostasia and defense of keeping pedophiles and rapists alive are not factors for said hate. Archive.


There is now a war between the pro ship community and the people calling Helen Joyce a pedophile, because many shippers write, draw, and create content for that fandom. Draco/Harry is a larger fandom than Draco/Hermione btw.

She also routinely complains about people shaming survivors of abuse. At this point, it is safe to conclude she makes it a core aspect of her identity; there isn't a single instance of her not admitting to it in some way. Archive.


She has been hawking her art recently, as well. People tell her they feel confident enough to show their own shitty art at group therapy meetings. Archive.


Here is Trevor Phillips from GTA. A stunning rendition.

This is art done by a 26 year old woman, btw.

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Another fanficcer begs people to stop tarnishing fanfic's good name.

Been trying to archive this, but Ghost Archive is down and nitter instances are very fucky. I will add a link once it is available.

 

[Unnecessary Surgery Land]

Weird ass question but do you guys think Laika Albarn and Ang Vondra could be the same person. Art style seems to be similar and they have the same ass kinks/interests.. and that Laika could just be an OC of Ang?

Or does every 'proship' person act the same

 

[Cryptojew]

Weird ass question but do you guys think Laika Albarn and Ang Vondra could be the same person. Art style seems to be similar and they have the same ass kinks/interests.. and that Laika could just be an OC of Ang?

Or does every 'proship' person act the same

I don't think they're the same person, if only because Laika had an actual work ethic compared to Ang.

 

[Baby Pom]

Weird ass question but do you guys think Laika Albarn and Ang Vondra could be the same person. Art style seems to be similar and they have the same ass kinks/interests.. and that Laika could just be an OC of Ang?

Or does every 'proship' person act the same

Laika's identity is already known, they're not the same person as Ang. Previous online identities are polyglotplatypus and null_backdoorho, known for getting into Homestuck fandom drama under the former name. More info here: https://lolcow.farm/snow/res/1907373.html#q1910081
They're quite a character.

Polyglotplatypus is a real freak. Claims to be biologically male on tumblr, but ran a secret twitter account as a biological female with a fetish for female genital mutilation (she also talked about her desire to remove her external genitalia on tumblr, but obviously acted like she was planning on getting a penectomy and didn't mention the fetish aspect). I'm inclined to believe her real sex is female because I've seen selfies and she just looks like an obese FtM, but I also can't believe a real woman would be into that stuff.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/proship-discourse.87557/post-11616234

 

[Cryptojew]

Vee has deleted all of her recent videos. I have her initial update and the three dance videos saved, but I didn't download the pidgeon tarot reading or her poem. Hopefully somebody else did.

 

[Chandelier]

Tom/Mouse continues to trauma dump. You won't find a tweet where she doesn't. This was posted in October 2023, and John here is asking the real questions. Archive.

V. Chaos there, IIRC, defended Vaush during his Lolicon arc.

Whenever things get too heavy for Tom, she resorts to, "I wrote this trash because I have trauma." That she still hasn't gotten over.

Mouse never responded to John's inquiry. Instead, she simply says she "never said that".

She also expressed frustration that people can't consume media responsibly. Archive.

Lol. Lmao.

 

[Cloverpuff]

Laika's identity is already known, they're not the same person as Ang. Previous online identities are polyglotplatypus and null_backdoorho, known for getting into Homestuck fandom drama under the former name. More info here: https://lolcow.farm/snow/res/1907373.html#q1910081
They're quite a character.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/proship-discourse.87557/post-11616234

I saw one of the anons mention that polyglotplatypus' dad died and after going through their old comics i found this.
https://www.tumblr.com/polyglotplatypus/163259982111/dealing-with-grief?source=share
I can't archive it because you need to have a tumblr account in order to see the blog, but it's a comic about how their dad died. They were an illustrator with dark wavy hair, a beard and eyebags. Van just looks like a more tumblr-y version of him.

Edit: My french is crap but I understand enough, so I took a look at obituaries. Null's real name is Adrien Perret and french people take their father's first name, so it wasn't too difficult. I found a dude named Roger Perret who died in the same date at the age of 51 in Paris. Null/Ad has talked about being from Paris before and the ages match, so this might as well be her dad.

https://www.libramemoria.com/defunts/perret-roger/14dd7160a8074995b0420c9ed3967167

It's also pretty much confirmed they're the same person, since one of null's first tweets (now deleted) is her promoting Laika's account. And if you take a look at the tumblr blog you can see null's style is wildly inconsistent, and some of their odl comics are quite similar to Laika's.

So we have a BPD/Bipolar disaster making a LARP account about herself banging her dead father in order to deal with her daddy issues. You know, normal stuff.
Also I honestly cannot tell if they are male or female because in tumblr they always allude to the fact they are male, but in twitter they call themselves a woman and talk aabout cutting her clitoris off. They also have this old podcast on itunes and their voice sounds pretty low but seems a bit forced (https://podcasts.apple.com/cl/podcast/horny-and-depressed-on-main/id1342925879)

 

[Cryptojew]

So we have a BPD/Bipolar disaster making a LARP account about herself banging her dead father in order to deal with her daddy issues. You know, normal stuff.

This is a great find, good work! I wonder if her father was sexually abusing her before he died, or if she's just sick in the head.

 

[Cloverpuff]

This is a great find, good work! I wonder if her father was sexually abusing her before he died, or if she's just sick in the head.

Thanks! Tho most of the job was done by other people here on KF and by anons over at 4chan and stuff. They're the ones that found the PGP account and her old carrd.

And she gives 0 fucks about internet safety. The amount of information I've gotten through looking at her personal comics on Tumblr is insane. Laika was fake but she didn't lie about being an oversharer online. If someone wanted to doxx her they would only need to hit a french buddy up because this idiot has posted pictures of her street and what is directly in front of her house multiple times+the town where she currently lives. I also know this bitch's entire medical history by now.

About her father abusing her, I don't really know. I'm mostly inclined to say no because she posted this other comic (I'll link it tmr) talking about how her father was one of the few adults in her life to not treat her like shit. She has talked about being raped at 15 through a comic and was working on one about how she got raped at 12 (to my knowledge it never got posted, the side blog she used to vent can only be seem through reblogs for some reason).

If I did the math correctly (and she isn't lying about her age) she would have turned 12 one month before her father died. Which you know, makes it technically possible but is a small window of time.

There's also this other thing tho. She originally got cancelled over stupid homestuck discurso but there was this comic that spur a lot of controversy and was really fucking weird. Basically this female character is pressuring a male Character to have sex (I say pressuring but it was more teasing tbh). Then the male characters gets tired of her behaviour, pins her down, and says she is going to get what she is asking for. She is too stunned to speak, then he rapes her.

The weird thing is how Null acted about the comic. She never called it rape, just a bad sexual experience. She always was quick to point out how /both/ characters fucked up. How /she/ pressured him. How /she/ didn't complain. How /she/ decided to stay.

When she talks about this years later, she says it's a comic about trauma she couldn't quite come to terms with at the time (not the exact wording).

A very similar thing also happened in Limerence (Laika's autobiographical comics, I believe it was in the third one). Laika has sex with her father without telling him she is no longer on the pill. He gets mad at her and refuses to have sex with her for a while. One day, after a conversation with Laika he finally snaps and starts fucking her without prep. It hurts but Laika doesn't say anything to not anger him more. Then he stops, apologizes and even if Laika feels extremely betrayed they both agree to do better. Again, this is never called rape, just a misunderstanding and a bad moment in their relationship.

This is really fucking weird not only because it comes out of nowhere in the comic, not only because it contradicts the whole "my incestuous relationship is not abusive" shtick, but because Null actively enjoys non con/CNC and posts about it. She gets off on it so why wouldn't she call it by its name?

It's true we don't have any proof her father abused her in any way, and even if I feel bad for speculating about a dead guy, I can't completely rule out her father as a possible abuser.

Idk, maybe I'm just overthinking this. She has talked about liking older men before so maybe this is just a very mentally unstable chick with next level daddy issues.

I'm also midly curious about the whole (very detailled might I add) racefaking thing, but she does seem to have a thing for Asian guys so

 

[Cryptojew]

Vee came back with two new dances! Nitter is still down so I can't check if she's returned to her other socials, sadly.

It looks like she may be at a new location, the room she's in doesn't match the rooms in her old videos.

 

[Markass the Worst]

Nitter is still down

The flagship nitter.net will be down forever because of Elon Musk's faggotry. The best working public instance is nitter.poast.org (be warned it blocks some VPN nodes and can't be easily archived by archive.ph, best way to archive is the original twitter link thru ghostarchive.org)