Proship discourse - People Who Think They’re Fandom Saviors For Being Open About Their Disgusting Fetishes (zoophile/pedophile/necrophilia/incest/rape/etc) and the people that oppose them.

[plasticmetal]

Couldn't quote og post but here's more information on Deadspacedog / Adrien Perret. Her father (whom she blatantly based Van on) is Iusse Perret, a animator on W.I.T.C.H, Totally Spies & other french based productions (imdb) Adrien revealed this info on her tumblr as part of a ask game in 2014.

Spoiler: Screenshots

Van has alot of similarities to Adrien's own descriptions of Iusse & Ad seemed to be obsessed with him the same way Laika is depicted to be. Limerence has a arc where Van attempts suicide in a bathtub & Iusse died in the exact same manner.

Spoiler: Similarities

Also Adrien always had a inclination towards daughter/father pairings specifically. One of the first times she got in hot water was from drawing nsfw of her underage homestuck oc with her father. (Callout post, missing art) Months before Deadspacedog's creation she lost a online friend of 6 years after uploading dad/daughter of Reagan and Rand from Inside Job. (Archive). It should be noted this is most likely the event that lead to creation of the account. Laikas first post is actually a reply to Ad formerly introducing her (Archive).

Around the time of Ang's "demise" Adrien had already lost interest in Laika and was starting to become more focused on two new ocs - A pair of high-school teachers in a abusive bdsm relationship where the husband is a ugly bastard that fucks underage students without any consequences and the wife is a ugly cuck who voluntarily mutilates herself.

Spoiler: NSFL

Final note : Adrien shows her mother her nsfw art & writing which consists mainly of genital mutilation, anal prolapses, rape, underage, incest, etc. (1 , 2) That leaves the question on whether or not Ad's mother knows about her daughter creating a elaborate persona to fulfill incest fantasies based on her dead husband.

 

[Traumerei]

There was theorizing over Adrien's father a while back. I think the date lined up with a different person, but the animation work seems to support Iusse. Regarding the callout, some links were dug up here. I also found a screenshot of the genderbend drawing:


Since it was mentioned again, I was looking into the drama and stumbled upon a ring of people who were against Parentstuck (apparently very popular in the Homestuck fandom at some point). It's too much for me to archive but all of the usernames follow an oldschool tumblr pattern (x against y). Here's a list:

Spoiler: autism

I can't be bothered archiving any of their posts either. It's just circlejerking and old memes. More interestingly though, they were making edits of a selfie she posted. I'm unsure where the original image is.

Spoiler: even more autism

Armchair schizo theory: Seeing the connections to Adrien's father as well as her mentioning being a CSA victim, her defending rape (the specific scenario in the Homestuck comic and Limerence), and the continual obsession with this specific type of incest I'm starting to wonder if there was any truth to the larp. Either way, totally normal and well adjusted behavior.

 

[Cloverpuff]

Couldn't quote og post but here's more information on Deadspacedog / Adrien Perret. Her father (whom she blatantly based Van on) is Iusse Perret, a animator on W.I.T.C.H, Totally Spies & other french based productions (imdb) Adrien revealed this info on her tumblr as part of a ask game in 2014

I'm assuming the og post was mine, I can't believe someone finally figured it out.

I checked obituaries and there was a man whose last name was also Perret and died on the same date on Paris, his age also made sense so i assumed it was him. I looked everywhere to try and find information about him and when I couldn't find any i assumed Ad must have lied to seem cool or that only her mother worked on animation. Turns out I had the wrong dude.

Laika even mentions W.I.T.C.H a couple of times, she must have found it funny.

Armchair schizo theory: Seeing the connections to Adrien's father as well as her mentioning being a CSA victim, her defending rape (the specific scenario in the Homestuck comic and Limerence), and the continual obsession with this specific type of incest I'm starting to wonder if there was any truth to the larp. Either way, totally normal and well adjusted behavior.

I've been thinking about this since I found out about her dead father and honestly it might be true. We don't have any proof but there is a lot of tiny details that keep adding up. Null constantly mentions how early she had her sexual awakening, she keeps repeating an oddly specific rape scenario since she was 19, she never got to make that comic about her CSA and specifically mentioned it was too disgustng.

And one detail that stands out to me is her obssesion with women not being victims. With Laika she repeated over and over again how she initiated the flirting and everything was her fault, with her new OCS she has straight up said that they do not have a toxic marriage and that Lynn (the woman) was the one that got Cy (the rapist) into kink and that she loves her husband and what they do. Her latest fic is a 5 chapter novel where Cy has a relationship with one of his students, Kate.

The thing is this student HATES being called a victim, because she doesn't consider herself one. She straight up admits she was groomed but that doesn't mean she was raped. It's a complete mindfuck because Cy is shown constantly in a positive light (not in a Lolita way where it's clear we have an unreliable narrator) even when he is a fucking pedo while every character that tries to help Kate is a whiny bitch (from the get go too, they always have something objectively iffy about them). It is also weirdly mysogynistic in a way a fanfic written by a 15 yo would, every girl is catty and overbearing but the guys are chill and kind of undertstand Kate.

Null had this gem on her retrospring (that she didn't rt, because i assume not all her followers are braindead)

Which you know, totally normal thing to say.

This is a person who jacks off to rape and abuse trying to make everything /not/ rape and abuse. I mentioned it before but I think this is her trying to preserve the memory of her father. She was subjected to something horrible when she was a kid by someone she loved very dearly (she was closest to her father), and then that person died (kind of implied he killed himself). It's either accept the person she loved the most did this to her and she will never get any closure or romantize it.

An important thing I had forgotten is that in Limerence 4, Van tells Laika about his suicide attempt. He was consumed by the guilt of feeling attracted to his daughter, got into the bathtub and did the thing. But then he regretted it because he didn't want to leave Laika alone. So Null not only tried to rationalize her father's (possible) suicide, in this reality he stayed for her.

So even if her dad didn't abuse her, this is definitely her coping with his death and her possible feeling for him in the most fucked up way possible.

I hope her mother doesn't know about this.

 

[Cryptojew]

Vee is loredumping on baraag. Is this her take on why she's gotten so schizophrenic as of late?

 

[Cloverpuff]

Vee is loredumping on baraag. Is this her take on why she's gotten so schizophrenic as of late?

Sounds like it. Didn't she make some similar comments in her first alien video? About how this is the last reincarnation and she has to make it count or whatever.

I can't believe however is taking care of her is letting her continue to have access to the Internet. This is like, actual schizophrenia, she needs help. I don't understand why she isn't on a psych ward already. Maybe because it's her grandparents (according to Jane at least) and old people don't believe in therapy and shit?

Shrooms deffo made it worse also, according to medical news "Some individuals who use psilocybin may also experience fear, agitation, confusion, delirium, psychosis, and syndromes that resemble schizophrenia"

I've heard people with BPD/certain types of trauma can't do LSD because it's really dangerous for them. Maybe with mushrooms is similar

Vee already either had DID (and by the sheer complexity and number of alters she was extremely fucked up) or believed she had it and made up this whole fantasy world (which could mean she already had some form of schizophrenia) before taking the mushrooms. It's obvious the "homebrew medicine" is what tipped her over the edge

 

[Cloverpuff]

Vee posted again! This time we have another Alien

Spoiler: Images

She looks really similar to "Shadow Self 2" an evil alter Vee has drawn before and who she blamed for creating problematic art.

Spoiler: Shadow Self 2

She has already done this with Meekie so there seems to a trend of her turning her alters into Aliens.

Kinda supports the theory of mushrooms made everything worse IMO. If any of her "friends" know where she is they should call someone and get her actual help. It's insane no one is doing anything and Ang is free to post her insane rambles.

 

[Cryptojew]

Maybe because it's her grandparents (according to Jane at least) and old people don't believe in therapy and shit?

I did notice that after her first videos at her new location, her youtube uploads stopped entirely. Maybe whoever she's living with made her stop filiming? If that's the case, it could be that they don't know about the Baraag posts yet.

Speaking of, Vee continues her Baraag schizoposting and has posted a charater sheet for "the Wanderer".

Spoiler: CRAWLING IN MY SKIIIIIIIIN

Interestingly, this is a updated version of Vee's "shadow self" that she created back in 2019.

Spoiler: THESE WOUNDS, THEY WILL NOT HEAAAAAAL

It would appear that she's taking every OC she's ever created and recontextualizing them as aliens who communicate through her.

Edit: Ninja'd

 

[plasticmetal]

Vee is loredumping on baraag. Is this her take on why she's gotten so schizophrenic as of late?
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Gotta love the half-assed comments humoring her. Reminds me of when people tried to comfort her after her "alters disappeared". They'll support her delusions as long as they can get their cartoon porn.
*Edit because ninja'd as well lol glad vee is so predictable

Vee already either had DID (and by the sheer complexity and number of alters she was extremely fucked up) or believed she had it and made up this whole fantasy world (which could mean she already had some form of schizophrenia) before taking the mushrooms. It's obvious the "homebrew medicine" is what tipped her over the edge

I highly doubt Ang's claims of DID considering all the other physical & mental ailments she says she definitely has. It just seems she wanted ocs but in a way that made HER ultra special. Ang used to make videos where she could "switch" on demand and it's clearly her role-playing as these characters. Found this one on desu with no archival link or date but it probably recorded pre callout given the dyed hair. The ending where they all interact fucking kills me

 

[Cloverpuff]

I highly doubt Ang's claims of DID considering all the other physical & mental ailments she says she definitely has. It just seems she wanted ocs but in a way that made HER ultra special. Ang used to make videos where she could "switch" on demand and it's clearly her role-playing as these characters. Found this one on desu with no archival link or date but it probably recorded pre callout given the dyed hair. The ending where they all interact fucking kills me

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I'm no expert in DID but from what I know it's impossible to have more than 100 alters, and Ang claims they have thousands and parts pf their brain are alive even if they don't communicate or whatever.

However pretending to have DID to such an extent is also a sign there's something wrong. I'm inclined to believe she has some form of schizophrenia/other mental illness that messes with her perception of reality.

She is weirdly consistent tho. Pigeon, Owl and Ravel get mentioned here and their personalities match.

Laika was also extremely consistent with her story so I wonder if Ang had some involvement in making the account. She was also the strongest proof Laika was real because they "met up". Supposedly Laika went on hiatus because of Ang's death, but it's not like she cares about Ang that much if she hasn't mentioned her since and never interacted with her on the Null account.

They have known each other since at least
november 2021, which explains why her and Laika were so buddy buddy from the get go and is enough time to start planning the incest RP.

 

[Cryptojew]

However pretending to have DID to such an extent is also a sign there's something wrong. I'm inclined to believe she has some form of schizophrenia/other mental illness that messes with her perception of reality.

Schizophrenia devolops later in women than in does in men, so it's possible that her alters were just attention seeking until they abruptly weren't anymore. She first started talking about aliens around the time Roadblock was coming out, that was March of last year I believe? So she would have been 28-29, which is around when symptoms would start to occur if she indeed had it.

 

[Traumerei]

If you read her posts mentioning her health, she always mentions how no doctor has ever been able to help her and she has to resort to holistic treatments. She claims to have MCAS/EDS/chronic fatigue and a bunch of other rare mystery illnesses that are known in the medical community for being psychogenic. Basically textbook hypochondriac & schizo shit, and made worse by shrooms.

Spoiler

Endless symptoms and buzzwords.

Also long-haul covid because of course.

I think her alien lore is just a way of coping with backlash she got for her art. The Jeku brothers getting tortured for being in love with each other or the Gooders being forbidden from "licking each other" is analogous to the mob of antis attacking Ang for drawing shota incest.

As for consistency, you'd be surprised. DID larpers tend to have hundreds of alters, giving each and every single one a specific identity/character and rotating between them seamlessly. This is very common. For Laika and Ang, it would probably work the same way. All they would need is a google doc or a sketchbook or something to keep track of everything.

 

[TokiBun]

Now that I'm completely caught up--did anything else happen with TBrainrot?

 

[Traumerei]

Now that I'm completely caught up--did anything else happen with TBrainrot?

She's on @wicker_kingdom for sfw and @tbrainrot2 for nsfw. Still as degenerate as ever, and continues to get shit from both proshippers and antis. Unsurprisingly, both sides think her being a TERF is worse than her fetishes. She has another callout here (Archive), which is basically just a rehash of the google doc callout complaining about her making 41% jokes and saying tranny. She's very active on her personal tumblr @rubacava2, but it's just aesthetic posts. As a whole, I don't think there's been anything noteworthy from her in a while.

In other news, Mouse has a boyfriend.

Note the emphasis on body odor.
Link / Archive

Spoiler: more about her boyfriend

"another man" lol. Lmao even.

Who is this boyfriend you might ask?

A jeet. You literally can't make this shit up. Definitely in line with her "scent kink".
Link / Archive

She also confirms she still lives with her parents.

Spoiler

Link / Archive

Unfortunately it seems her boyfriend is no better than all the abusive white men.

Link / Archive

And Mouse's mental health is now declining.

Link / Archive

But you can't keep a good pooner down! She soon resumes posting about extending her fetishes to real people.

Spoiler

Link / Archive

Mouse hasn't mentioned him since their fight. I wonder if they broke up already. I wonder if he knows what she posts online.

 

[Chandelier]

Who is this boyfriend you might ask?

A jeet. You literally can't make this shit up. Definitely in line with her "scent kink".

That's so on the nose it's not even funny. Indians, the most numerable people on the planet, known for stinking up a storm - was a perfect match for the obese Jew pooner who can't cook. She'll get that degree in forensic psych but can't even learn to boil an egg.

The fuck is she eating? Junk food?

Unfortunately it seems her boyfriend is no better than all the abusive white men.

Lmao, it was barely two weeks from her tweet on how white men were evil. Karma is such a bitch. I assume he couldn't stand using the fuck stick to get to this pooners piss pouch.

This woman has written on how desperately she wants a penis and wants to piss on Nazis - for a fetish, of course. For all her hate on white men, her AO3 is filled with white men fucking.

If you're having this much trouble, it may be because it's coming from inside the house. This woman claims to have PTSD and said she was raped by a family member/stranger at 17 - before retconning that, of course. You're an obese Jew with a piss and scent kink, studying for a degree you want to use to free rapists and criminals, and all you do is bitch about fandom discourse all day with takes on how much you hate TERFs.

Spend as much time on YouTube cooking tutorials instead. It'd lead to better eating habits.

 

[TokiBun]

Thanks for the update btw I refuse to have a twitter account so I had no idea how I was going to check and see if this weirdo still posts art.

 

[Cloverpuff]

If you read her posts mentioning her health, she always mentions how no doctor has ever been able to help her and she has to resort to holistic treatments. She claims to have MCAS/EDS/chronic fatigue and a bunch of other rare mystery illnesses that are known in the medical community for being psychogenic. Basically textbook hypochondriac & schizo shit, and made worse by shrooms.

She talks about food allergies a lot, which is one of the symptoms of MCAS. She talks about barely being able to eat without having a reaction and on a photo she uploaded around this time she looks quite thin.

Spoiler

Overall, I'm more suspicious about her claims on EDS. One of the main symptoms is having soft, elastic skin. With the amount of people doubting her disability, she could have easily proven them wrong with a simple video.

There's also no bruising (people with EDS bruise easily). Another thing is that she claims to have hypermobile EDS, that usually produces sore muscles and articulation pain, but she almost always complains about her back and spine (those are affected by other type of EDS)

She even had spine surgery. Maybe I'm just being paranoid but the photo looks really fake to me.

Spoiler

I'm not even going to get into the cronic fatigue thing because it just sounds like a mix between depression and burnout. The depression I believe but I doubt an animator that has worked twice in her life is burnout in any way.

As for consistency, you'd be surprised. DID larpers tend to have hundreds of alters, giving each and every single one a specific identity/character and rotating between them seamlessly. This is very common. For Laika and Ang, it would probably work the same way. All they would need is a google doc or a sketchbook or something to keep track of everythin

I've been thinking about it and I think Ang had some type of involvement in making the Laika account. It stopped so suddenly after her fake death, when supposedly there were 4 more complete comics to go (they just needed to be inked).

Also I took another look at Limerence and the style is kind of inconsistent. It's mostly mediocre 3 panel comics you could find in any tumblr, or singular illustrations that are kinda decent. But then for more serious stuff you have longer comics where you can tell the person who made them had some sort of idea on how pacing works. The Lineart also varies quite a lot.

I think Ang was doing the longer, more detailed comics. Even when Null makes longer comics, the panels are usually quite large and they follow sort of a samey structure. Null on the other hand made the tinier comics and the individual illustrations.

I can search for images later, but all the Limerence issues are online anyway.

 

[Cryptojew]

I've been thinking about it and I think Ang had some type of involvement in making the Laika account. It stopped so suddenly after her fake death, when supposedly there were 4 more complete comics to go (they just needed to be inked).

Remember that at one point Ang also started larping about fucking a family member. I'd be shocked if it wasn't Laika who inspired that.

 

[Traumerei]

Spoiler: medical sperging

She talks about food allergies a lot, which is one of the symptoms of MCAS. She talks about barely being able to eat without having a reaction and on a photo she uploaded around this time she looks quite thin.

I believe she has allergies, like gluten or lactose intolerance and whatnot. MCAS on the other hand is really common for people to claim to have, but it's exceedingly rare. There's also no real way to diagnose it (ie. via genetic testing). I just don't buy it. She also mentioned "detoxing" constantly so I think the weight loss is just from that.

There's also no bruising (people with EDS bruise easily). Another thing is that she claims to have hypermobile EDS, that usually produces sore muscles and articulation pain, but she almost always complains about her back and spine (those are affected by other type of EDS)

Like MCAS, hypermobile EDS is also the only type of EDS that is diagnosed without genetic testing. By the sheer number of doctors and specialists she's claimed to see, you're eventually going to find one that decides to just give out the diagnosis. She also claimed the spinal surgery was for a tethered cord, but she's never mentioned urinary symptoms (which is the only real reason the surgery would be performed on an adult if it wasn't already done in childhood).

Anyway, the homebrew meds fixed everything so it's fine.

I think Ang was doing the longer, more detailed comics. Even when Null makes longer comics, the panels are usually quite large and they follow sort of a samey structure. Null on the other hand made the tinier comics and the individual illustrations.

The idea that Ang helped with Limerence is interesting, but I think the art style is just too consistently Laika/Adrien's. The change in comic format could also just be another attempt to separate the Laika character from her main account. On the other hand, if Ang was involved, I agree it would make sense that Laika would stop posting once she went off the deep end.

An interesting aside: Adrien claims to be asexual, and starts talking about her supposed sex life.



A lot of these artists claim to be asexual, yet sexually active. However, I think extreme fetishes are actually more common among virgins, and particularly femcels/incels.
It reeks of an urge to overcompensate for the absence of healthy and fulfilling relationships. I doubt she has any sexual encounters.
Link / Archive

 

[TokiBun]

Yeah these people aren't asexual they're just insecure and can't figure out how to fuck real people. The asexuality is a giant cope.

 

[Xerxes IX]

Kyle Carozza may not have LITERALLY MURDERED ANG but he is a pedophile. He's been arrested and charged for possession of CP. More proof the loudest voices in this discourse are pedos calling each other pedos all the way down