Proship discourse - People Who Think They’re Fandom Saviors For Being Open About Their Disgusting Fetishes (zoophile/pedophile/necrophilia/incest/rape/etc) and the people that oppose them.

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That said, going "I'm an adult who pays my bills and doesn't get involved in this shit"...at the beginning of a video nearly 2 hours long about shipping discourse is hypocritical in the most pretentious way. Unless she was trying to be ironic on purpose, in which case...still pretentious.
That's a pretty big issue with her work as a whole, honestly. In any and every situation she tries to paint herself as an outsider looking in when really she's far deeper into it than she'd care to admit, though that's an issue with a lot of rabbit hole-style content. It's a presentation thing.
 
That's a pretty big issue with her work as a whole, honestly. In any and every situation she tries to paint herself as an outsider looking in when really she's far deeper into it than she'd care to admit, though that's an issue with a lot of rabbit hole-style content. It's a presentation thing.
Pretty much. Like she admitted to being into x fandom but "a long time ago, when I was young and dumb". Then she goes off on rants about Irene Adler as though Sherlock were still relevant.
 
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Finished it. Here's a summarization attempt, TL;DW:
1. The concepts of pro and anti encompass a wide variety of different things and also Twitter is a hellscape so people Ship of Theseus everything, taking fairly innocuous comments and extrapolating a whole nonsensical narrative out of them. Many people on either side of The Discourse actually agree on some things, but because of semantics they label themselves differently and throw dogshit at each other.
2. Both sides engage in harassment campaigns.
3. Many of the things pinned on antis (such as various suicides and the needle cookie incident) either had nothing to do with shipping wars and were retrofitted to the discourse, or were completely faked. People act all sanctimonious because they think there's an actual body count when there really isn't, and if there is it's a lot lower than they think.
4. Antis watch too many kids shows, proshippers treat any and all criticism of the things they like as death threats or whatever.
5. Go outside

On a related note, Sarah Z deactivated her Twitter before uploading the video, which is probably the most sensible thing to do. She ended up on the trending tab for a bit, and just like what happens with literally any video that's over 15 minutes long, there were people on Twitter getting mad over things that she never even said, which is pretty funny.
it's pros and antis, they cry over anything
 
That said, going "I'm an adult who pays my bills and doesn't get involved in this shit"...at the beginning of a video nearly 2 hours long about shipping discourse is hypocritical in the most pretentious way. Unless she was trying to be ironic on
personally, I'm giving it a pass for inspiring gold like this

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personally, I'm giving it a pass for inspiring gold like this

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not my screenshot, hence the shite censor job.
I love how the biggest callouts are over OMG ABLEIST MICROAGGRESSION MY FEEEEEEELINGS instead of the dumbass hypocrisy/dumbass attempts to be ironic. Lady, you get paid to make videos about fandom dramas. Don't act like you're so above it all.
 
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I love how the biggest callouts are over OMG ABLEIST MICROAGGRESSION MY FEEEEEEELINGS instead of the dumbass hypocrisy/dumbass attempts to be ironic. Lady, you get paid to make videos about fandom dramas. Don't act like you're so above it all.
Overstatement of harm works much better than saying "lol cringe" if you're trying to reinforce that you have the moral high ground.
 
Antis watch too many kids shows

annnnnd thanks for summarizing why all antis act like mentally stunted toddlers. Imagine being so self-righteous and pure that the only content you consume was mainly intended for CHILDERN, LITERAL KIDS. and that's not getting into some skeletons in the closet pertaining about some proclaimed antis turning out to be literal child groomers. These people need to be as far away from minors as possible.

I know this is a troll gossip forum but if I do sound like a sperg, give out the corresponding reward as this shit is bringing out the worse in me.
 
Don’t diddle kids, I don’t know what else to say.
Personally I find loli/shota stuff disturbing and I seriously side eye anyone who enjoys it, but ultimately if it doesn’t break any laws (or escalate) I don’t care.

Incest goes without saying that it’s degenerate. Always and forever, if it’s fictional it’s weird, IRL it’s horrifying.

But the autists who have made it into a personal war for them to shut down the potential child fuckers are also immensely amusing so both sides seem to be fun.
 
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>uses a term used in shipping drama
>person calls you out
>YOU'RE THE ONE MAKING IT SEEM LIKE THAT!

I used to think pro shippers were just people who wanted to draw cartoons kissing and call it a day, but I've seen so many artists on that side get into the sex positivity movement as a whole and supporting insane shit like prostitution, Kink at Pride™ and other such that I can't remember.
Like when did everything go from "your ship bad mine good" to "Guys if you don't support women getting raped on camera for money you're actually killing the pro sex gays sksk"?
 
annnnnd thanks for summarizing why all antis act like mentally stunted toddlers. Imagine being so self-righteous and pure that the only content you consume was mainly intended for CHILDERN, LITERAL KIDS. and that's not getting into some skeletons in the closet pertaining about some proclaimed antis turning out to be literal child groomers. These people need to be as far away from minors as possible.

I know this is a troll gossip forum but if I do sound like a sperg, give out the corresponding reward as this shit is bringing out the worse in me.
both a sperg and annoying
 
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Not surprisingly this person got outed as an IRL pedophile and most of their friends went on to try to do things like groom teenagers/obbsess over to the point of stalking IRL content creators. I wish I could post all the massive leaks and dumps I have without compromising the people who showed me them, even if said people are cows on their own.
 
I think I'm proship leaning or some shit, but what really gets me if the fact that proshippers are obsessed with the evil TERFs and puritans in their closet.

Nah nigga, jerking off to lolisho and fantasizing about a 45 year old dad fuckin his son and sons friends is just weird.
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