Proship discourse - People Who Think They’re Fandom Saviors For Being Open About Their Disgusting Fetishes (zoophile/pedophile/necrophilia/incest/rape/etc) and the people that oppose them.

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Vee will apparently die soon
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Vee has annouced she is putting her new webcomic on hold. Here's the authors note on today's page.
If you saw my twitter, I hate to put things on hiatus so soon but my life has had no stability and it’s being uprooted again, so I have to make drastic changes to my environment for survival. I will update the comic if I can during this period, but I’m making no promises. Nothing is abandoned. I did have the entire intro (45 pages) roughed out and most pages inked but it’s hard to find time to even just add shading. The hiatus is so I don’t lose my backlog and it feels early enough into this that it’s not going to be as hard as a hit where if I had to stop updating when there was more substantial story being told. I don’t anticipate these things happening, life and society just suck right now.

I’ve seen some people react with a lack of compassion towards my situation and continue to make demands about how I should be sharing my work (both criticizing my work itself as if anyone is this harsh with other webcomics, as well as criticize the update schedule because I can’t pump out content like an algorithm), and I just want to say: this comic is not for you if this is the attitude you have towards me, so expect nothing and I hope you are continually disappointed.

I am making this work for myself and for those it resonates with because I want to share it. If this isn’t resonating, move on. I can’t believe the entitled attitudes I’ve gotten and demands over how my work should be when I am sharing this for free from my own passion and heart, while in a dire living situation with declining health that very few want to even sympathize with, mind you, but will find the time and energy to berate and judge me from a removed distance. I am open to suggestions and constructive criticism because I WANT to improve my art and that’s why I started this project: to learn and experiment and grow. While some have kindly given me pointers, for the majority: this is not it.

If you’ve been behaving coldly towards my work or myself while making demands, I really urge you to rethink how you treat artists because this sort of behavior is why many people don’t share their work anymore and abandon projects. Favorite artists and webcomics of mine have vanished because of entitled fans pulling this very behavior over art they are getting for free with no regard for the well-being of the person making the work. Then people act shocked and complain about why there isn’t anyone making anything for them to enjoy. Well, there you go.

This project is a labor of love, I am trying to claw my way out of a never-ending rough cycle, that, despite what people say, the rumors online are very false and removed entirely from having any ounce of understanding of the reality of what I’ve been through. I’ve given up on explaining myself because no one ever listens and prefers to believe what they can fabricate for entertainment. The truth doesn’t have the same entertainment value because in all honesty, it's just fucked up and depressing.

Try to integrate the understanding that I am a human being, not an object to project your issues onto, please. All creatives are human beings who just want to express themselves freely in ways that you will not always understand, they/we are not corporate content machines with the job of making you feel comfortable.

I really urge you to focus your energy on supporting and nurturing what you want to see more of, not tearing others down for not immediately serving you the way you want. All sorts of work is allowed to exist, not all of it is for you, that's ok, move on. You will see more work begin to emerge that DOES speak to you if you take this route of support and nurture and focus your attention in a positive way. Not everything is for you but there will be more you can find that is for you if you water the seeds of what you want to help grow. That’s probably all I am going to say on the subject.

Thank you if you’ve been kind and understanding. I still love and appreciate those who have been patient and and want to help. I’ve closed myself off to online help because I couldn’t handle having people constantly use that vulnerability as an opportunity to come in and make jabs at me and try to trap me in the online whirlpool of lies and rumors that have been spread about me. Every time I have to ask for help online, people continue this abuse that I've wanted to move on from for a long time, projecting onto me that I cannot move on when in reality it is them. So even if I may not find a way out without that online support, I'd rather take that risk and be free of this abusive relationship.

P.S. I do want to get the website in better shape, get an RSS feed, get a better host due to the loading issues that are happening because the traffic is way larger than anticipated (but right now I have no money), but understand it is not my priority at this time.

She's also been schizoposting. I can't tell if it's a larp or an actual psychotic break. Seems a bit off-brand for her.
 
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Cryptojew said:
Vee will apparently die soon
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And nothing of value will be lost.

Honestly I don't think she means it. She's probably just throwing a baby fit so she can get her way. But if she's serious this time then she really needs to get off the internet and actually get help and not just call a suicide hotline. I mean a actual behavioral therapist, the whole nine yards. But who are we fooling she's gonna cry until people leave her alone. Same old vee.
 
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Comic cancelled, twitter deleted. I wasn't able to archive it before it got wiped, but here's a screencap.
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Edit: The comic page has been pulled down and replaced with this message. At least she's not blaning us this time.
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I hope she stays offline, since I suspect she'll be happier if she does. With that being said, I expect she'll be back within a month or so.
 
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That tantrum is hilarious, She’s acting like nobody is worthy or privileged enough to deserve her art. Reminds me of a lot of the lolcow behavior I used to see on Deviantart back in the day.
 
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So the Tbrainrot situation became even weirder but apparently she is friends with Shmorky and is hanging out with him now. What the fuck is going on?
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And he drew this for her apparently.
Read more about this in her recent answers on curiosity cat. Archive.ph

Shit just got weird to fucking insane real fast. I will see what else I can find on this but wow hasn't shmorky actually groomed a minor?
 
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sideofthematress said:
8chan tends to be the center for people who share irl gore and live leak shit.
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8chan has the driest guro boards, but i never really looked into the irl gore shit because I didn't wanna look at that stuff just to get better at creating guro. It's true there's dozens of pedophiles across 8chan though. I just wanted to comment on this specifically because I had a phase of browsing 8chan for similar purpose growing up. (Drawing reference, minus the child shit.)
Pop-Tart said:
Like 95% of all this discourse just feels like an excuse to be morally outraged at another persons prefered ship out of envy.
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It doesn't matter dog, I just want to laugh at people who don't go outside enough.

Speaking of which; someone in a close community of mine used to be very proud of the fact she was a proshipper for coping reasons. She made fanfiction of the Joker and Harley Quinn because of her abusive ex lol. I had always gotten bad vibes from her, so I tried not to talk to her, however she went ballistic because someone kept saying shit that she felt very provoked by; Autism sperging in response to her trauma dumping. It was really funny looking back. It was just a big paragraph about her ex abuser and this person said something like "Woah they like the same thing as me, so sorry though" I'm not sharing screenshots because I don't really want to implicate people who don't matter, but you could definitely find her fanfiction online if you want to read proship joker/Harley shit. Also, she was a terf after she disconnected with our community. Maybe terfs and proshippers have a pipeline, maybe I'm reading too deep into it.

EDIT: Some terminally online college student wrote a whole ass thesis on Antis.

This is the second time this has happened btw first time it was an essay that got presented at a writing conference. (Apologies for the formatting I am on my mobile phone)
 
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So I think it is a false alarm with the Tbrainrot being friends with shmorky. Cause now she is saying animatedjames is her friend too so I am just thinking she is reading this thread and trying trying to fuck with kiwifarms cause she wants to be "le based edgey troll". God she really is a fucking schizo. Tbrainrot if your reading this get help and stop being a cringe ass tard.

Plus Tbrainrot you aren't fooling anyone with this shit.

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So I think it is a false alarm with the Tbrainrot being friends with shmorky. Cause now she is saying animatedjames is her friend too so I am just thinking she is ready this thread and trying trying to fuck with kiwifarms cause she wants to be "le based edgey troll". God she really is a fucking schizo. Tbrainrot if your reading this get help and stop being a cringe ass tard.

Plus Tbrainrot you aren't fooling anyone with this shit.

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She apparently does have an account here, so it wouldn't be too surprising.

Also, there is something uniquely weird to me about people who find Simpsons characters attractive. At least with furries they're usually based off of animals one could concievibly call cute. The Simpsoms don't even look human, they're like weird yellow frog people. It's something I will never understand.
 
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sideofthematress said:
So I think it is a false alarm with the Tbrainrot being friends with shmorky. Cause now she is saying animatedjames is her friend too so I am just thinking she is ready this thread and trying trying to fuck with kiwifarms cause she wants to be "le based edgey troll". God she really is a fucking schizo. Tbrainrot if your reading this get help and stop being a cringe ass tard.

Plus Tbrainrot you aren't fooling anyone with this shit.

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Of all the people to have parasocial relationships with it has to be internet pedophiles. Even as a troll op it's degenerate and retarded.
 
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Skitzels said:
Another day, another proshipper/lolicon triggered by an Anti on Twitter
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This person also face doxxed herself to an Anti called Wheen. In this thread no less. Of course, in true Twitter Freak fashion she relies heavily on filters:

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Holy shit! All those face reveals especially her aren't all that attractive. They look like typical tumblrina troons.

And what has she done to help real kids.

I find the woke "problematics" worse than their "dudebro" right wing counterparts. At least they don't try to be progressive with their fetishes.
 
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Androgyne Deep State said:
Fiction is fiction, but arguing about it every day on a certain website that thrives off banter, edrama, and angering people makes a person miserable. Same goes for antis, who also need a fucking life.
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Slamdunking antis and pro ships is fun once in a while, but if your entire account is dedicated to arguing with one side then you’re just wearing down your own mental health.
 
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So found this after the whole japanese proship debacle and I find it very telling. Even actual asians want to make it clear that they are not all creeps. I swear that maromi_ika chick's essay is just gonna make the Asian side of fandom act like everyone supports and she is just making a terrible generalization of all Asian fans are pedo media supporters. Like I said before maromi_ika sounds fucking stupid and very myopic. But then again I'd suspect this behavior cause Japanese people always tend to have opinions that try to speak over individuals and more about speaking for the "collective".
 
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