Quantum Mechanics & Physics Are Garbage

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I love the thought of physics and quantum mechanics, but I feel like it's all garbage. We know so much about tiny atoms we can't even see? Don't get me started on photons and gravitons/gravitational waves or the observer effect. You conveniently need a sensor the size of Jupiter to detect a single graviton?!I think this is just incels playing Star Trek, I would love to believe that it's real, but it ain't. We might just be living in God's simulation.
 
I'd argue you're not wrong to be skeptical, but the real issue is that too much of contemporary physics stopped being about reality and started being about equations detached from observation. You can't just build knowledge math alone. Everything real starts with things we can perceive and test.
 
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I love the thought of physics and quantum mechanics, but I feel like it's all garbage. We know so much about tiny atoms we can't even see? Don't get me started on photons and gravitons/gravitational waves or the observer effect. You conveniently need a sensor the size of Jupiter to detect a single graviton?!I think this is just incels playing Star Trek, I would love to believe that it's real, but it ain't. We might just be living in God's simulation.
I don't think you understand the essence of quantum mechanics which is ok because it is fundamentally bad, gravitational waves have nothing to do with "gravitons".
 
Quantum mechanics are pretty sound and have a lot of applications in real life where you wouldn't expect it. But at the extreme edges of the Standard Model and its potential successor theories it gets more and more wonky, the theories become more focused on math and reliant on ever larger particle colliders and insane amount of statistics to find anything. Overall it has been a very successful theory, but it seems that physics is approaching a wall there, needing to find a new theory that also explains all the stuff we already found. It gets harder and harder.
 
I'd argue you're not wrong to be skeptical, but the real issue is that too much of modern physics stopped being about reality and started being about equations detached from observation.
Not only are they detached from observation, but any part of an equation that comes from observation is considered somehow defective, as if it's a law of the universe that all physics must be derive-able entirely from the math itself. There's zero reason to believe this is actually the case besides the egos of theoreticians.

I see a strong correlation between the stagnation of physics and the assumption that equations describing reality MUST be aesthetically appealing to physicists.
 
Not only are they detached from observation, but any part of an equation that comes from observation is considered somehow defective, as if it's a law of the universe that all physics must be derive-able entirely from the math itself. There's zero reason to believe this is actually the case besides the egos of theoreticians.

I see a strong correlation between the stagnation of physics and the assumption that equations describing reality MUST be aesthetically appealing to physicists.
Exactly.
When you treat empirical data as an inconvenience to theory, then you reversed the hierarchy of knowledge. Equations don't explain reality, reality validates equations.
And the moment beauty becomes a standard of truth, "physics" is theology with better graphics
 
Also, the problem with math is that humans misguided think it's universal when most of the population barely understands the basics.
 
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gravitons/gravitational waves or
Electrons moving cause a change in a change in the electric field. If you have read upon electro magnetic field (EMF) theory you should know that that whole theory stems from just applying Coulomb's law and saying that the force vectors around all the electrons are a "(vector) field". EMF theory has derived all of classical circuit theory and is central for radio technology and electrical infrastructure. It's pretty rock solid. Litrally the it just work meme, but on steroids. Coulomb's law can be translated to the equation for universal gravitation, Just switch Coulomb's law to Newton's equation for universal gravitation and that's the basis for gravitational "waves". Apply relativity for cosmological stuff it should work (hard to do experiments with this). So gravitational waves do "exist" since it's the same approach as EMF.

Quatum mechanics is also a model that work for smaller objects (and it does corresponds to Newtonian physics if you actually read how it was derived, the idea that it's a "own model" is wrong!). Without a quantum mechanical approach, you wouldn't have the semiconductors we have today, solar cells, GPU's etc. It all stems for phyical electronics with is solid state physics that handles all the calculations with a quantum mechanical set up, not classical. Classical doesn't even work!

So either OP is retarded and never opened a book about these things, or is confusing pop science with actual physics/engineering.

But if it's the later, fuck I agree. The fundamenal quarks and nu-particles are fishy. The measurements are convoluted and now it's ingrained as a fundamental truth in schools. String theory (kek, that even the founders have stated is wrong and moved over to just math instead) is iterated by soy journo faggots as le science.
You conveniently need a sensor the size of Jupiter to detect a single graviton?
Never looked into this part. The results are always so fucking hard to do experiments on I simply never cared. This is why I hate astronomy and some KF faggots seems to disagree. No, it's as you say; undeployed faggots who are too dumb to see math as a way to find relations in numbers, intead they think it's a universal truth relations. No, it's numerical logic are "universal" (in our logical "playbox" that we made up), but not the concepts. Also, these nu-professors don't even do any real maths I feel like, it's all over simplifeid assumptions and notations to look smart on paper, holy shit! If you actually look at what they are saying, they are full on nosense. Actual gibberish scribbles in their equations.

I think I mentioned this before on the farms and I have seen others saying this: If you write anyting down on a piece of paper so it "looks good", then people will think it's legit. Having just a nice LaTeX template and having a few contacts with some soy-journos will get you 1000x further in academia than being an actual professional/nerd/autists finding new cool shit. You get further by larping as a "scientists" writing sci-fi than actuallyh writing about actual experiments.

Also, the problem with math is that humans misguided think it's universal when most of the population barely understands the basics.
People don't even know what a derivative is when graduating high school now. They will call primitve functions for anti-derivtives in text books since niggers can't even learn two words so they have to merge words now, which is useless since they can't even read. People need an app to tell them how to count when lifting junk in the gym instead of just typing "2x3, 40kg" on a note taking app, that's how retarded people are today. I don't even think people know how excell/spreadsheet work or even imagine an exponential function today.

I hate astronomers, teachers and soyence journos. They simply have tarnished the reputation of a concept that is actually cool.
 
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>put cat in box
>put lethally radioactive isotope into same box
>close box
>HURR DURR YOU CANT KNOW IF THE CAT IS ALIVE OR NOT THEREFORE QUANTUM IMMORTALITY!
>N- NO! YOU CANT OPEN THE BOX, JUST, NOT!
>DO- DONT CALCULATE THE TIME IT TAKES FOR THE CAT TO DIE FROM THE RADIATION! JUST DONT!


If i got a penny every time ive seen some random retard talk about quantum physics by presenting the schroedingerniggers cat, id have maybe a dozen pennies.

Here, i have a better quantum thought experiment and it will fall apart immediately.
I present to you:

DIRLEWANGERS NIGGER
>take nigger from detroit
>give him glock 40, problem solver and 5 bucks
>put him into a random convenience store
>put blinds on the windows of the store. lock the door
>soundproof it completely
>you dont know if the nigger robbed the place or not
>quantum robbery


Except you can calculate the probability of the robbery happening.
First, from what kind of family does the nigger come from.
Does the nigger have gang affiliations.
Does he do crack?
Is he short on money?
Does the have a job?
What is his IQ.
 
DIRLEWANGERS NIGGER
>take nigger from detroit
>give him glock 40, problem solver and 5 bucks
>put him into a random convenience store
>put blinds on the windows of the store. lock the door
>soundproof it completely
>you dont know if the nigger robbed the place or not
>quantum robbery



Except you can calculate the probability of the robbery happening.
First, from what kind of family does the nigger come from.
Does the nigger have gang affiliations.
Does he do crack?
Is he short on money?
Does the have a job?
What is his IQ.
yeah thats how quantum mechanics work
it is literally just probability, how likely an outcome is to be observed
thats why in quantum computing you have to rerun an algorithm multiple times to be sure of the result or check the answer using normal computers
 
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Electrons moving cause a change in a change in the electric field. If you have read upon electro magnetic field (EMF) theory you should know that that whole theory stems from just applying Coulomb's law and saying that the force vectors around all the electrons are a "(vector) field". EMF theory has derived all of classical circuit theory and is central for radio technology and electrical infrastructure. It's pretty rock solid. Litrally the it just work meme, but on steroids. Coulomb's law can be translated to the equation for universal gravitation, Just switch Coulomb's law to Newton's equation for universal gravitation and that's the basis for gravitational "waves". Apply relativity for cosmological stuff it should work (hard to do experiments with this). So gravitational waves do "exist" since it's the same approach as EMF.
Not sure about that, Newtonian gravitation can't form propagating waves as there's no law of induction nor a second type of field (electric and magnetic in electrodynamics) for gravity, and the effect of gravity is considered instantaneous. Gravitational waves are very much a General Relativity thing.
 
I'd argue you're not wrong to be skeptical, but the real issue is that too much of contemporary physics stopped being about reality and started being about equations detached from observation. You can't just build knowledge math alone. Everything real starts with things we can perceive and test.
It's not just physics. A lot of science has fallen into the models over reality trap. I still remember back in one of my ecology courses we were basically taught that if the model and reality don't match up, it's reality that's wrong. The teacher we had based his entire thesis on some kind of wind speed model he came up with and he happily told us how essentially he just kept changing his data and leaving data points out until it all worked out nicely with his model.
 
Gravitational waves are very much a General Relativity thing.
Going to be honest general relativity is not my strongest side in physics, I only passed the special relativity stuff and moved on to other areas. I was too naive to assume I could apply mass attraction with charge attraction and call it a day, as you say, we got no magnetic field equivalent to mass.

If you apply static electric fields to gravity fields, it should work. I have no idea what would be a magnetic field equivalent in the mass scenario, hence no EMF equivalent waves.
 
Going to be honest general relativity is not my strongest side in physics, I only passed the special relativity stuff and moved on to other areas. I was too naive to assume I could apply mass attraction with charge attraction and call it a day, as you say, we got no magnetic field equivalent to mass.

If you apply static electric fields to gravity fields, it should work. I have no idea what would be a magnetic field equivalent in the mass scenario, hence no EMF equivalent waves.
I only did the basics in astronomy and went into condensed matter physics after realizing that particle physics is mostly programming.
There is something called gravitoelectromagnetism and there is a certain analogy between them, but yeah, gravitational waves are not quite part of that. I mean, they kinda are since there are waves both in electromagnetism and gravity, but they're not derived in the same way.
 
Physics is very silly. They say there's a "speed of light" faster than anything, so if something happens on Mars, it takes time to see it here. So they want me to believe that if you had a stick extending from Earth to Mars, surface to surface, and you pushed the stick, the "light" would reach Mars before the force moved through the stick to Mars? Obviously just completely ridiculous. This is the kind of shit "scientists" actually believe after staring at equations for too long.
 
Physics is very silly. They say there's a "speed of light" faster than anything, so if something happens on Mars, it takes time to see it here. So they want me to believe that if you had a stick extending from Earth to Mars, surface to surface, and you pushed the stick, the "light" would reach Mars before the force moved through the stick to Mars? Obviously just completely ridiculous. This is the kind of shit "scientists" actually believe after staring at equations for too long.
It's true, though. The stick isn't infinitely rigid, a force will move through it at its speed of sound.
 
Physics is very silly. They say there's a "speed of light" faster than anything, so if something happens on Mars, it takes time to see it here. So they want me to believe that if you had a stick extending from Earth to Mars, surface to surface, and you pushed the stick, the "light" would reach Mars before the force moved through the stick to Mars? Obviously just completely ridiculous. This is the kind of shit "scientists" actually believe after staring at equations for too long.
I asked this very same question a while back, because it’s bothered me since I was a kid, and I got an explanation (who h I can’t remember but seemed to make some kind of sense…)
What if it’s a completely rigid stick? Why can’t I tap out a morse code message with it at the other end of the universe ?
 
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