Quiet American resentment towards foreigners - And general Amerimutt ennui general

[NoReturn]

General thread to discuss:

• Americans' cattle status and how we have to pay taxes no matter where we go
• Lack of access to support systems (government and NGO) available to immigrants
• The perception that is you're suffering in America you "deserve it" or fucked up somehow
• Amerimutts' lack of connection to any distinct culture
• Rejection from extended family ("Plastic Paddies", "'No Sabo' kids")
• Differences between modern and historic immigration trends

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Spoiler

Making this thread after a conversation I just had irl. This man admitted he was only here to make a certain amount of money, then he was going to "go home" and buy a house outright. He was laughing about how nice his life is, how he goes back every year just to visit family and party, and how once he's "done" here he's set for life. He has no intention of staying in the US, no connection or investment in the country, and if he ever runs into trouble he has a home to go back to.
I wasn't surprised about what he was saying, but more that he was saying it all. It was refreshing, since whenever the topic comes up in most circles people seem to be in denial that anyone would come here just to milk it and then go home.

 

[HairyBadger]

Have you ever seen outside the USA?

 

[NoReturn]

Have you ever seen outside the USA?

Yeah, that's part of why I brought this up. Living in the first world is indeed preferable (in many ways, not all), but I don't see much about this specific feeling or these kinds of interactions because more often than not things like what you said are the end of the discussion.
I didn't create this thread to bitch about how hard Americans have it or complain (and if you have any suggestions about how to make that more clear in the OP, please let me know) but more because I wanted to see what other people thought about these experiences.

 

[HairyBadger]

Yeah, that's part of why I brought this up. Living in the first world is indeed preferable (to me, anyway), but I don't see much about this specific feeling or these kinds of interactions because more often than not things like what you said are the end of the discussion.
I didn't create this thread to bitch about how hard Americans have it or complain (and if you have any suggestions about how to make that more clear in the OP, please let me know) but more because I wanted to see what other people thought about these experiences.

I'm a Britbong and on sunday I fly to Budapest for 2 week, then move to Bulgaria for 2 weeks. I'm out of britbong for 4 or 5 weeks. But that is not an issue to me.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Yeah, that's part of why I brought this up. Living in the first world is indeed preferable

Is it? How many Americans would move to, say Mexico, if working there was possible? Many who work remotely already have.

I wanted to see what other people thought about these experiences.

People have been doing this ever since the US was founded, and even before that. What's different is they don't want to remain the US and become citizens or bring their immediate family over. Being a US citizen is not longer attractive except to lthe lowest of the low primary due to the worship of faggots, anal sex and the demand to troon out your offspring.

 

[NoReturn]

Is it? How many Americans would move to, say Mexico, if working there was possible? Many who work remotely already have.

Edited my post to be a bit more clear. There's a lot to be said for the effect of where/how one grows up as well.
A lot of times when I try to talk about this stuff either online or in person, people talk like all Americans grow up like the people they see on TV, but there are also people you could scoop up and drop somewhere else (with a job) and their standard of living would go up, not down.

Spoiler: A couple videos from a Mexican guy

He has a lot of other videos like this.

People have been doing this ever since the US was founded, and even before that. What's different is they don't want to remain the US and become citizens or bring their immediate family over. Being a US citizen is not longer attractive except to lthe lowest of the low primary due to the worship of faggots, anal sex and the demand to troon out your offspring.

This is also why I wanted to make this thread.
Someone coming over even as recently as the 1930s had a very different experience to what we have now. We also have access to the internet, which allows for things like daily video calls to the people and the culture "back home".

 

[Feline Supremacist]

people talk like all Americans grow up like the people they see on TV

And movies. They are genuinely shocked when I explain the transient nature of the American worker because they come from places where people want to stay in, or close to, the family homestead.

We also have access to the internet

I don't think that's a major factor. People traveled back every year and sent packages/letters, and long distance phone calls were a thing. What's different is America itself.

 

[HairyBadger]

It is quite normal for britbongs and Frenchfags and Germohitlers to move between areas, despite Brexit.

We look as it as the same as travelling from Oregon to Texas for a week or so. without the gay.

Yes Oreagon and Texas are GAY

 

[Smashed & Slamed]

"Some people see us as just another easy paycheck and they don't believe in the American DreamTM. How could anyone do such a thing?"
Genuinely funny. I guess American Exceptionalism only works until it doesn't.

 

[The Hardest R]

Being a burger was pretty awesome up until the 2000s. Now we’re in free fall to be just as shitty as the rest of the world. American exceptionalism was always a meme and we get to see it here. We import as many shitskins as possible, we lock away massive swathes of natural resources away, we give local power away to cat ladies and zero growth advocates with axes to grind, and we’ve stunted public education because too many niggers fell behind so now we prioritize teaching kids about anal sex instead. If not enough women or niggers are promoted, your business can get sued into oblivion. We can go on and on.

Having said all that, I am amused that European stereotypes of Americans are seemingly locked in at the year 2005. Something about the Dubya years broke their brain and nothing can shake it.

 

[DSHK]

Is it? How many Americans would move to, say Mexico, if working there was possible? Many who work remotely already have.

People have been doing this ever since the US was founded, and even before that. What's different is they don't want to remain the US and become citizens or bring their immediate family over. Being a US citizen is not longer attractive except to lthe lowest of the low primary due to the worship of faggots, anal sex and the demand to troon out your offspring.

As someone who had to live there on business, its a really shitty place to live especially if you have a family.

 

[The best and greatest]

What's so quiet about it? How much louder do we need to express our distain for the unwashed huddled masses beyond and within our borders siphoning our future out from under our feet before the volume reaches "Conversation in a crowded room"?

 

[kim foxx]

financialization pretty much destroyed america (and the west in general). things are heading back to where they were before concerted industrial development of the 20th century. when your elites can't make money selling products that people want to buy, they replace that with parasitizing the goods and services necessary for life and collecting rents on those.

that's why a shitbox 1970s ranch house in the seattle suburbs costs nearly a million dollars.

 

[big pauper]

financialization pretty much destroyed america (and the west in general). things are heading back to where they were before concerted industrial development of the 20th century. when your elites can't make money selling products that people want to buy, they replace that with parasitizing the goods and services necessary for life and collecting rents on those.

that's why a shitbox 1970s ranch house in the seattle suburbs costs nearly a million dollars.

the problem is that the last century of technological development has been the separation of technological development from the military industrial complex. the parasatizing isn't a new thing, they've been sucking the country dry since nixon. what is different is that it used to be that the caste of bankers could pretty much guarantee that they'll be in power indefinitely because the amount of money and resources necessary to maintain the standard of living that people enjoyed was so fucking high that everyone basically was forced to keep the deep state in power to keep the gravy train flowing.

nowadays all of the monolithic authorities that provided for that technology have not only gotten worse, they just outsourced their shit overseas for bottom dollar, so now there isn't even a gravy train, there isn't even a good standard for the product, they're just competing with third worlders who are desperate to take a loss as long as it puts a US business on their resume. that's good for you and me but really fucking bad for the powers that be

a shitbox antique ranch house costs a million dollars in seattle but a brand new ticky tacky mansion in missouri costs like $200k because its built by the amish and mexicans who are culturally incapable of understanding the level of sycophancy required from modern urban society

 

[Scuffed Marisa]

America is just Canada under a stronger brand.

 

[deermeat]

Americans need to cut out immigrants and embrace nationalism. How are we letting nationalistic people come to our soil and not integrate into our society? No wonder we are all miserable. Our country is disrespected by foreigners and the government would rather be involved with other countries than care about our people. I have no problem with other ethnic backgrounds or whatever, but I'm tired of America being taken over by traitors. There needs to be rules and a foundation. People shouldn't be allowed to live in America while their loyalty lies elsewhere, they shouldn't have the same power as people born in America because all they end up doing is creating communities filled with other foreigners then overtaking territory. It creates an unjust power imbalance. If you move here, you shouldn't have the same rights as the people born here. I don't expect to be treated like a born-citizen if I go to other countries, yet Americans are constantly shamed into being accepting of outsiders.

I hate how weak the country has become.

 

[OutInTheRain]

Everyone in the west is atomized from their own local communities. Some places more than others. I would argue trendy cities have it the worst. Where everyone is from somewhere else, and everyone it seems always just arrived. No one puts down roots and integrates into the community, because it's always changing. We go to a bar or a concert or some kind of event every week to fill the time. Social experiences that aren't all that social. Something to talk about on Monday and forget by Tuesday. So many of us work for massive, faceless corporations where we barely know what we do, and despite a job title that sounds impressive. Our days are filled with writing emails and going to meetings that we have to write emails about.

So many of us are now lacking the personal events that used to define everyone else's lives. The marriage, the kids, the house in the community that you build a life in. Just don't happen to many of us at the age it used to. So a lot of us wrap ourselves up in work. Making that a defining part of our self image. Chasing more responsibility and more clout, which boils down to signing more papers and going to more meetings. Which makes our achievements feel hollow, but at least you get another wall for your cubicle and a pay raise.

So many of us go through life with nothing to show for it, no challenge other than going to work, and even then most of that is just getting out of bed. It's why you see people throw themselves from social cause to social cause with such fervor. It's the only way so many can feel something, like they matter, like what they do matters. The powers that be want to atomize you, want you to rely only on them, to worship them and believe that all success only flows through them. To make you feel alone, and that they alone can help you.

However, with all that being said. It does get better as you get older. As you start having real personal and professional success. As you live in an area for a while and make friends and get involved with the people around you, that ennui fades. That feeling of isolation, that disconnect ebbs. You realize that it isn't a lack of culture, culture is all around you. It's just harder to spot because it's not exotic and the food is what you grew up with. But culture has always been deeper than that, it's shared values and the conformity to social mores. Things we all do without realizing it.

The cure for current year and its ails is the same as it has always been. Be a part of something that isn't a hashtag. Knowing that internet friends aren't real friends, and you shouldn't fuck up your life with advice from someone with an anime avatar. And realizing that trannies are just furries with better marketing.

 

[Gorton Colu]

• Amerimutts' lack of connection to any distinct culture
• Rejection from extended family

Southerners have a distinct culture even if it gets shat on by envious West coast fags and Yankees.

This too is less common in the South and Mountain west where larger families are still somewhat normal.