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What the hell is going on here in this thread?

Can we get back to our regularly scheduled mockery of the Left's own Conservapedia clone?
cant we hijack the thread to have a flame war about a flame war the sites administration had about a flame war?

:popcorn:
 
@Tobias_Reaper

so maybe the fact ur a self described antinatalist "virtuous pedophile" and spent most the last week trying to get a kid to send you personally identifying information has something to with why "harassment" came into it

i think those involved were happy to let this stay buried, but honestly u burnt the last thread of goodwill the moment u posted here

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Bizarre lies. Nowhere have I ever described myself as a "virtuous pedophile". I have no idea what you're talking about. On the subject of RationalWiki and pedophilia, I was the person who got a pedophile named Shouniaisha banned (Huess was me as pointed out on Encylopedia Dramatica.


"
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/User:Shouniaisha 'I'm m a (self-diagnosed) pedophile and a hebephile" says his userpage

- Ban this sicko.Matthias Huess (talk) 02:23, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

You appear to have no knowledge of my edits there at all.
 
You appear to have no knowledge of my edits there at all.
not everyone has spent years obsessed with ur edits to obscure websites so forgive me if i only focus on what u did and said this month on discord and rationalwiki

inb4 u say it wasnt u who said all those things on discord and that ur account was hacked by mikemikev ... again
 
not everyone has spent years obsessed with ur edits to obscure websites so forgive me if i only focus on what u did and said this month on discord and rationalwiki

inb4 u say it wasnt u who said all those things on discord and that ur account was hacked by mikemikev ... again

This was the link I posted on RationalWiki (mods can still view the deleted edit):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Emblyn_Kerensa

How is that doxing and harassment?

Also note I have sleeper accounts that aren't blocked and some of those are a sysop. I noticed Arthur Kerensa is now running around trying to detect my accounts and block them all. haha. He won't find all of them.

I don't though plan on posting on RationalWiki ever again. The community is a cesspit and most the criticisms about RW in this thread are true - the mods and sysops who are editing are all mentally ill SJWs.
 
This was the link I posted on RationalWiki (mods can still view the deleted edit):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Emblyn_Kerensa

How is that doxing and harassment?
maybe the doxing has something to do with how her name wasnt linked to her rationalwiki account and the harassment has something to do with how u went onto her talk page and discord to post threats and weird shit about the things u would do unless she redacted a wikipediocracy post to not mention ur insane brother who spends his time spamming reddit?
Also note I have sleeper accounts that aren't blocked and some of those are a sysop. I noticed Arthur Kerensa is now running around trying to detect my accounts and block them all. haha. He won't find all of them.
if im reading the block log right, Arthur Kerensas account blocked a dozen of ur accounts while making ur Tobias account a sysop and posting that u were on probation. but that since u were permanently banned only two of ur accounts have been blocked, both by other mods.
I don't though plan on posting on RationalWiki ever again. The community is a cesspit and most the criticisms about RW in this thread are true - the mods and sysops who are editing are all mentally ill SJWs.
it only took u SEVEN YEARS to notice this obvious fact lol
 
maybe the doxing has something to do with how her name wasnt linked to her rationalwiki account and the harassment has something to do with how u went onto her talk page and discord to post threats and weird shit about the things u would do unless she redacted a wikipediocracy post to not mention ur insane brother who spends his time spamming reddit?

if im reading the block log right, Arthur Kerensas account blocked a dozen of ur accounts while making ur Tobias account a sysop and posting that u were on probation. but that since u were permanently banned only two of ur accounts have been blocked, both by other mods.

it only took u SEVEN YEARS to notice this obvious fact lol

You're complaining about doxing, when you've gone around the internet doxing my brother - whose name was only obtained by @Mikemikev who paid to obtain that information behind a paywall from an obscure electoral roll website.

Basically you're a lying hypocritical piece of shit.
 
Do y’all want a plagued tag? Cause this is how you get a plagued tag
this is an example of how rationalwikis Best Contributors™ are very rational and Definitely Not™ mentally ill SJWs and how when they get banned by their Comrades™ they are Very Chill™ about it

im sure u can purge the crap if its not funny enough

You're ... you've ... you're a lying hypocritical piece of shit.
sorry to disappoint but im just here to laugh at ur petty disagreements with ur fellow SJWs
 
On the subject of RationalWiki and pedophilia, I was the person who got a pedophile named Shouniaisha banned (Huess was me as pointed out on Encylopedia Dramatica.

Actually, RationalWiki didn't ban Shouniaisha; instead, they covered it up. FuzzyCatPotato first renamed the account to "Aisha". And then "SecretAgentoftheMods" renamed the account to "Collingwood" because they despise how Vordrak was documenting RationalWiki's pedophile-tolerant behavior. Then finally, FuzzyCatPotato renamed the account to "Ukuphendukela".

The RationalWiki community was close to banning Ukuphendukela / Shouniaisha, but FuzzyCatPotato shut down the discussion in order to save Ukuphendukela from what he calls "lynching".

Instead of blocking the pedophile, they blocked me, the whisper-blower. I wrote about the incident at Encyclopedia Dramatica:

https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/index.php?title=RationalWiki&oldid=935912#Shouniaisha.27s_return_and_Michaeldsuarez.27s_ban

Vordrak and I helped expose RationalWiki as being filled with pedophile apologists.
 
Actually, RationalWiki didn't ban Shouniaisha; instead, they covered it up. FuzzyCatPotato first renamed the account to "Aisha". And then "SecretAgentoftheMods" renamed the account to "Collingwood" because they despise how Vordrak was documenting RationalWiki's pedophile-tolerant behavior. Then finally, FuzzyCatPotato renamed the account to "Ukuphendukela".

The RationalWiki community was close to banning Ukuphendukela / Shouniaisha, but FuzzyCatPotato shut down the discussion in order to save Ukuphendukela from what he calls "lynching".

Instead of blocking the pedophile, they blocked me, the whisper-blower. I wrote about the incident at Encyclopedia Dramatica:

https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/in...niaisha.27s_return_and_Michaeldsuarez.27s_ban

Vordrak and I helped expose RationalWiki as being filled with pedophile apologists.

I made this discussion:

I went a little overboard to troll the paedophilia apologists there

::::::::: "Let's hope the police sort you out sooner or later" -- let's hope he gets some police brutality in a cell, the sick little creep deserves it. The only good paedophile - is a dead one. [[User:Matthias Huess|Matthias Huess]] ([[User talk:Matthias Huess|talk]]) 04:04, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

sorry to disappoint but im just here to laugh at ur petty disagreements with ur fellow SJWs

I don't hold grudges. I'm banned from editing RationalWiki for that doxxing drama. I've already put forward my point of view of the thing; I doubt many people are interested and I won't waste more time with it.

Thread can continue now criticising RationalWiki as a cesspit.
 
I wrote who I was suing, but, hey, some people are slow and anyone can fail to notice stuff. The WikiMedia Foundation, for libel by publishing a global ban. They have the right to ban me, but not to publish it, at least that is the legal issue I have raised.


Your lawsuit is not going anywhere as we have concluded at Wikipediaocracy


Is Abd Lomax still pretending to be innocent?

He disrupted Wikiversity for over seven years, the Wikimedia Foundation had every right to ban him, it is not libel to ban someone from a public server!

Wikiversity admin Michael Umbrecht wrote to Abd Lomax "We have received numerous legitimate complaints about your activity over a long period of time"


Michael Umbrecht wrote as the ban reason:

Your long term activity at Wikiversity shows a persistent pattern of long term disruption that has been going on for the past [https://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User:Abd SEVEN YEARS!] This activity has also drawn a great deal of unwelcome contentious activity to our site that distracts the community from developing learning resources. The unblocks in your log show repeated attempts by our community to assume that you are making a good faith effort to improve Wikiversity despite much evidence to the contrary. I'm not going to get into the minutia of your individual actions. I'm going to make a call based on the sum of your contributions. ''Wikiversity is not your personal podium.'' Your participation here has become a drain on the resources of our community and we will not allow this to continue. -[[User:Mu301|mikeu]] <sup>[[User talk:Mu301|talk]]</sup> 21:00, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
https://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Abd&diff=1795552&oldid=1795534

He also sent Joshua P. Schroeder harassing emails


'''Delete''' and ban [[User:Abd]] for harassing me in e-mails. Wikiversity should be ashamed of itself for continuing to let him abusively campaign here. I have asked the foundation for a ruling as well. [[User:ජපස|ජපස]] ([[User talk:ජපස|discuss]] • [[Special:contributions/ජපස|contribs]]) 22:53, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

You realise it was Joshua P. Schroeder who got you globally banned Abd?

You doxxed his legally changed name on the Thunderbolts forum in 2017


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You also attacked him on your blog


After Joshua reported you, you quickly emailed the admins of the Thunderbolts forum to remove your above post and they removed it, but it was too late.


Off-Wiki harassment is default ban, you will have to explain to the Foundation if this goes to court why you doxxed Joshua's new legally changed name and were stalking him.

Lomax your lawsuit is the biggest piece of turd I have seen. As Vigilant wrote to you, you will likely lose this case and have to pay a shit load of legal fees.

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Lomax also brags about "being divorced seven times" as an accomplishment in life.


And, here, this cohort of the Valiant is so far represented by @WikipediocracyNut. From recent history, it can be expected that wherever I show up, these accounts will rain. So if the PowerZ that B here want me to stop posting, to avoid that, let me know. I'm grateful for the information that was a provided by kiwifarms over the years, but I have no need to post here unless it is wanted.

You clearly need help Abd, back-chatting Jones Day and posting the information of Christopher M. Morrison.


Well, that is not needed, because today I received the waiver of service. You guys are the first to know.

The WMF has retained Jones Day for this, one of the top legal firms in the U.S. This will become public record, so I think there is no harm publishing this here. The attorney is Christopher M. Morrison, office in Boston, 617-960-3939.

My, my, not some junior partner! The only better news than this would have been a contact from the Office -- or a proposal for informal mediation -- but I understand why they would avoid that.

They now have until 60 days from 3/19/2019 to file an answer or motion under Rule 12.

And I now have an actual human being to talk with. Or at least an attorney, and they are usually human. Sometimes quite smart! Seriously, this one looks very good.

I have not started fund-raising. I assume (1) negotiations will go splendidly, and we will reach a settlement satisfactory to these two parties, or (2) they will file a Motion to Dismiss (or their intention will be clear) and I will start fundraising and seeking counsel. While I'm not afraid of facing a Jones Day attorney in court -- I watched a whole team of them in Miami in Rossi v. Darden -- and they make mistakes (in hindsight, my opinion, but none of them were fatal errors, some might have been expensive) -- and I trust reality and the court -- discretion is also the better part of valor.

As far as I know, none of the John Does have retained an attorney. Of course, they have not been served or invited to waive. It is being claimed on the internet that I have libelled them. That's fun.

There are even sock puppets that have appeared on WMF wikis to pretend they are me or a friend, threatening real people that they have been sued. And this has actually revealed, in one case, what might be called "guilty knowledge." (Some people are not terribly smart, even though they have long beards.) But I'm not going there yet, not legally.

One step at a time. The big banana first, then we worry about the flies. Or files. Or whatever.


Jones Day will wipe the flaw with you. You will lose this case so badly. The Wikimedia Foundation have already given your countless bans, off-wiki harassment and twenty year internet history of trolling to Jones Day. They only need to see you are a net-kook with no honest reputation to defend.


Every sputtering, stammering, incoherent diatribe is admissible evidence.
Every threat, insult, misrepresentation, crackpot theory or generally unhinged proclamation can be entered into the record.

If Martin is called to testify, his previous mental health medical history will likely be subpoenaed as it goes to the credibility of the witness.

Abd's long standing pattern of online doxxing and generally threatening behavior will play into the WMF's hands. "He's a dangerous lunatic that we were forced to ban from our community because he, like the others on this list, represents a clear and present danger to our users."

Abd's well deserved reputation as a puesdoscience crankpot theory pusher will further erode his credibility.
His using of his various cold fusion websites for malicious behavior towards others will likely be enough to force his entire web history into the record.
His continuous inflation of his own credentials in the field of physics will only serve to undermine his testimony. "Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus"

I am eagerly awaiting the inevitable conclusion of this legal matter, but not so much that I won't savor every tiny element of this modern day Children's Crusade as if deliveries from the world's finest chocolatier.

As they say in France, a real country in Europe, Bon Appétit!
 
In my personal opinion, RationalWiki is a perfect example of a website or online community that far outlived its initial purpose and the cultural zeitgeist that created it.

There's a reason why it became an SJW cesspit and I've discussed that reason at length before.

The worst part is that Conservapedia, it's longtime rival, is actually a little better about "Current Year" culture wars bullshit than RationalWiki for several reasons.

Part of it is because Conservapedia was always intended as a politicized propaganda wiki and never had any intent of either satire or debunking known frauds like RationalWiki originally did.

Honestly, it's a well-known open secret that Conservapedia is near-exclusively staffed by Andrew Schafly and a few deep-cover trolls who have been at it for so long that they may be buying their own grift at this point.

The other part of it is that because of the Conservapedia admin situation, it's still largely true to it's original Bush-era rhetoric of Evangelical Christianity mixed with Karl Rove's style of Neoconservative politics.

Contrast this to RationalWiki, who hopped on the SJW bandwagon fairly quickly and blatantly.

RationalWiki basically is a public example of the American Left's descent into moral guardian lunacy in the 2010's after being the paragons of free speech and free expression for most of the 1990's and 2000's

Conservapedia on the other hand is still a well-preserved relic of the 2000's American Right.

They're still big on the old right-wing mainstays of 'Murica, Jesus, Freedom Fries, The War On Terror, Bill O'Reilly, and Israel being America's geopolitical waifu/BFF.

I honestly don't see Conservapedia adopting the 2010's right-wing paradigms of cartoon frogs, Ben Shapiro, meme magic, Proud Boys, Serbian polka music, red pills, and clown worlds unless Andrew Schafly dies and and a new breed of trolls from the chans decide to move in and displace any remaining deep-cover trolls.

Like I said, RationalWiki (or possibly SJW Wiki if it gains traction) will likely go even further off the deep end and wind up as the leftist Metapedia if Trump wins in 2020 while Conservapedia is far more likely to remain a time capsule of the 2000's no matter who wins next year's election.
 
In my personal opinion, RationalWiki is a perfect example of a website or online community that far outlived its initial purpose and the cultural zeitgeist that created it.

There's a reason why it became an SJW cesspit and I've discussed that reason at length before.

The worst part is that Conservapedia, it's longtime rival, is actually a little better about "Current Year" culture wars bullshit than RationalWiki for several reasons.

Part of it is because Conservapedia was always intended as a politicized propaganda wiki and never had any intent of either satire or debunking known frauds like RationalWiki originally did.

Honestly, it's a well-known open secret that Conservapedia is near-exclusively staffed by Andrew Schafly and a few deep-cover trolls who have been at it for so long that they may be buying their own grift at this point.

The other part of it is that because of the Conservapedia admin situation, it's still largely true to it's original Bush-era rhetoric of Evangelical Christianity mixed with Karl Rove's style of Neoconservative politics, unlike RationalWiki who hopped on the SJW bandwagon fairly quickly and blatantly.

RationalWiki basically is a public example of the American Left's descent into moral guardian lunacy in the 2010's after being the paragons of free speech and free expression for most of the 1990's and 2000's

Conservapedia on the other hand is still a well-preserved relic of the 2000's American Right.

They're still big on the old right-wing mainstays of 'Murica, Jesus, Freedom Fries, The War On Terror, Bill O'Reilly, and Israel being America's geopolitical waifu/BFF.

I honestly don't see Conservapedia adopting the 2010's right-wing paradigms of cartoon frogs, Ben Shapiro, meme magic, Proud Boys, Serbian polka music, red pills, and clown worlds unless Andrew Schafly dies and and a new breed of trolls from the chans decide to move in and displace any remaining deep-cover trolls.

Like I said, RationalWiki (or possibly SJW Wiki if it gains traction) will likely go even further off the deep end and wind up as the leftist Metapedia if Trump wins in 2020 while Conservapedia is far more likely to remain a time capsule of the 2000's no matter who wins next year's election.

rationalwiki started as an outrageous troll site for peeps angry with conservapedia but it has partly turned into an outrageous troll site for peeps angry with metapedia

many older articles are hit pieces focused on making fun of conservapedia and creationists, then articles about some altmed quacks were added and popular for a while, now its all about racists, nazis, and politics

many of the original contributors to rationalwiki have gone now and newer peeps have newer interests. rationalwiki is less dependent on a small group of admins to control content as it elects new mods yearly and its founders have made no substantial edits for a long time
 
In my personal opinion, RationalWiki is a perfect example of a website or online community that far outlived its initial purpose and the cultural zeitgeist that created it.

There's a reason why it became an SJW cesspit and I've discussed that reason at length before.

The worst part is that Conservapedia, it's longtime rival, is actually a little better about "Current Year" culture wars bullshit than RationalWiki for several reasons.

Part of it is because Conservapedia was always intended as a politicized propaganda wiki and never had any intent of either satire or debunking known frauds like RationalWiki originally did.

Honestly, it's a well-known open secret that Conservapedia is near-exclusively staffed by Andrew Schafly and a few deep-cover trolls who have been at it for so long that they may be buying their own grift at this point.

The other part of it is that because of the Conservapedia admin situation, it's still largely true to it's original Bush-era rhetoric of Evangelical Christianity mixed with Karl Rove's style of Neoconservative politics.

Contrast this to RationalWiki, who hopped on the SJW bandwagon fairly quickly and blatantly.

RationalWiki basically is a public example of the American Left's descent into moral guardian lunacy in the 2010's after being the paragons of free speech and free expression for most of the 1990's and 2000's

Conservapedia on the other hand is still a well-preserved relic of the 2000's American Right.

They're still big on the old right-wing mainstays of 'Murica, Jesus, Freedom Fries, The War On Terror, Bill O'Reilly, and Israel being America's geopolitical waifu/BFF.

I honestly don't see Conservapedia adopting the 2010's right-wing paradigms of cartoon frogs, Ben Shapiro, meme magic, Proud Boys, Serbian polka music, red pills, and clown worlds unless Andrew Schafly dies and and a new breed of trolls from the chans decide to move in and displace any remaining deep-cover trolls.

Like I said, RationalWiki (or possibly SJW Wiki if it gains traction) will likely go even further off the deep end and wind up as the leftist Metapedia if Trump wins in 2020 while Conservapedia is far more likely to remain a time capsule of the 2000's no matter who wins next year's election.
IIRC, RationalWiki does have a few articles criticizing far-left ideas and activists under the banner of "moonbattery", but these criticisms are rather limp-wristed compared to the fiery condemnations of right-wingers and mostly boil down to whining about how they make "sane" left-wingers look bad.

If the current trend continues, it's quite likely that those articles will be rewritten to be more positive.
 
I wrote the article criticising the idea genes are involved in group differences in IQ.

SJWs changed the article to deny genes are even involved in individual differences in IQ - which is not only a false and unscientific position, but absurd and goes completely against scientific consensus.

When these SJWs vandalised my article (or a parody of an SJW, I couldn't tell, Poe's law...), I criticised them here:

I got their edits reverted. However now I'm banned it will probably go back to the blank-slate SJW pseudoscience for individuals.

The problem with above is why RationalWiki is widely dismissed as a "liberal creationist" site now.
 
I'll answer this argument, which is rooted in racist assumptions. First of all, "same" is a red herring. As well, the meaning of "genetic intelligence" is not well-defined. But let's posit that there is *some* variation in something called intelligence, which would reflect an ability to analyze the environment and successfully predict the behavior of nature and others. The environment in Australia is different from the environment in Japan. Over time, then, human genetics will adapt to the environment, evolving what is generally better suited for it. General intelligence, if it is beneficial, will be beneficial both in Japan and in Australia. The populations have been separated for a long time, enough time for minor variations to develop. By some measure, we would expect a test of intelligence to show some difference, but what difference is shown may vary greatly with the test!

Mikemikev often straw-mans the environmentalist argument by making it absolute, i.e., into a claim that there is *no difference* in intelligence due to genetics.

Rather, the scientific question is whether or not there is a measurable difference, and, as well, how to measure it, and then the political issue is how such findings should influence personal behavior and public policy.

Given the conditions, I would not expect a large difference in group intelligence, but possibly a small one, again keeping in mind that any test of intelligence may be biased. Further, as to public policy, individual variations will swamp group variation, i.e., no individual should be discriminated against based on race, but rather individuals may be assessed based on individual abilities. It would be stupid to choose a Japanese idiot for a job requiring intelligence, over an aboriginal genius.

Mikemikev simply assumes a huge difference in an attempt to ridicule Oliver Smith's statement, but it is only ridiculous from a racist point of view. Mikemikev's racism is certainly not scientific.

Oliver Smith dominated RatWiki for years on racism issues, even though he disliked RatWiki overall, which is easy to understand! He went far overboard in attacking intelligence researchers, creating massive disruption, damaging academic freedom. I criticized that, but certainly was not thereby defending racism, which is an old way of thinking whose time has passed, and the shift occurred mostly in my lifetime. When I was a teen, racism was open and unapologetic. Now, it is the province of a lunatic fringe, even though more subtle forms of racism are endemic, and Mike was attempting to appeal to one of those.
 
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