Rhodesia Appreciation Thread - Another underdog arc with an unhappy ending

Rhodesia has always been fascinating to me. The country was always pretty much doomed, the demographics just weren't there for them, I don't think the white population ever hit more that 7% or so. Gotta admire their determination to go it alone in spite of the rest of the world trying to stop them.

Mainly, it's just a sad case of what could have been. It's a shame to see a country that was once able to export food in large quantities be reduced to having to get food aid. It's a great example of how kleptocrats ruin everything they touch.

Anyways, for some more rhodie resources, this dude on Reddit uploaded a bunch of books to a Google drive, I highly recommend Fireforce and Ian Smiths bio.
 
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Sit Nomine Digna, boet.


Everyone debate the accuracy of the lyrics. I have a personal theory that this video might be poisoning the official translations, or it might be a victim of said poisoning. Now I can speak Afrikaans and can verify most of it (except I'm unconvinced of the use of the word "kwai", or "jawl" instead of "jol"), but I can't say if the reason "ek sê" is pronounced "eshe" for some historical linguistic reason or if it's just the wrong phrase altogether.

 
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I know some Belgian guys who re-enact the Rhodesian Security Forces. Had a great time with them at a military show down in Kent last month. One of them is a police officer who has some extremely based views on the kaffirs infesting Europe.
 
Why are you cheering on immigrants trying to rule over the region's native race?
 
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byuu said:
Why are you cheering on immigrants trying to rule over the region's native race?
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Simply put even people who don't understand how clean running water and electricity works, deserve it. Not to mention the white population born in Africa have every right to it according to most civics beliefs around the world.
 
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Simply put even people who don't understand how clean running water and electricity works, deserve it. Not to mention the white population born in Africa have every right to it according to most civics beliefs around the world.
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That's not up to foreigners to impose on the native population without their consent, though. I wouldn't want Nigeria to decide things for the United States.

Pretty much every single problem in Africa today is the direct result of white foreigners thinking a few decades of experience playing colonist gave them a better understanding of the continent than the people who have lived there since the dawn of humanity itself. The entire situation was primed for failure from 1957 on.
 
One thing that really hurt Rhodesia was the Portuguese Revolution. The Rhodesians used Angolan and Mozambican ports extensively, likely got oil from Angola. When things changed in Lisbon access to Angola and Mozambique stopped, leaving only South Africa for port access, which SA tightly controlled. The guerillas also used Angola and Mozambique as base areas.

It isn't that the Rhodesians lost, but how long they held out against essentially most of the world. Mugabe got a well-run country, fucked it up, and looted it. May he burn in hell.
 
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It's not surprising people are fascinated by the Fireforce era Bush War, but I never found it that compelling. As much as the Fireforce was a triumph of tactics, the terrorists were always able to penetrate the porous borders wherever they pleased, unlike in French Algeria or the South Africans in Southwest Africa.

The Algerian War, Congo Crisis, and Angolan Border War are more interesting to me. The French paras in Algeria really pioneered and developed the use of the airmobile tactics that the Rhodesians simply refined.
 
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byuu said:
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When the Afrikaaners showed up the savages living there didn't even know about farming, which means they were nomads. So nobody had their land stolen because it wasn't even the Native's land to begin with. Same situation with the Indians in America, if you don't plant or build anything on "your" land it's not really yours. It's just land you're squatting on.
 
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When the Afrikaaners showed up the savages living there didn't even know about farming, which means they were nomads. So nobody had their land stolen because it wasn't the Native's land to begin with. Same situation with the Indians in America, if you don't plant or build anything on "your" land it's not really yours. It's just land you're squatting on.
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And they initially landed and settled there because the Cape of Good Hope was a sailing waypoint between Europe and Asia. They didn't move inland until the Great Trek in the 1800s.
 
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Because they built the industrial society from scratch and imported blueprints, while the modern examples scrounge off of existing prosperity and at best do work within the existing structure. Also it was not a question of if the Shona would be dominated by foreigners, but which group would do it, seeing as they were already held in subjection by the Matabele (A Zulu-derived raider people) who invaded about a century earlier, and the Portuguese and Boers also had designs on the region. The British tended to be fairer rulers than those 3 to say the least.
 
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