Shane Nokes DOOM Mod

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Since we were discussing a Doom mod featuring Shane Nokes and other characters in the Pativerse, I decided to break out the discussion to this thread. Making mods for Doom is pretty easy, and I'd be interested to know how many people would actually want to contribute to the project.

tl;dr about Doom modding: the base game is stored in IWAD format, while mods are stored as WAD files. To replace assets in the base game you just create a new asset with that same name in your WAD. For example, if you name your own level MAP01 then it will replace the first level in the base game. Replacing sprites, music, sounds, textures and that sort of asset is pretty easy, though if you are doing more arcane things like editing colormaps or the menu behavior it can be trickier.

There are a number of engines that can run Doom. I think developing for GZDoom is best as this engine adds cool new features such as dynamic lighting, advanced scripting capabilities and even "3D" level design. (Doom is really a 2.5D game, and most engines don't support multi-level maps except through design trickery.)

Here are some of the tools I used when I was modding for Doom long ago.

Doom Builder - This gets my vote for best map editor. It's easy to use and I have the most experience with this tool. This is really just for making maps and some scripting, so we would need to use a WAD editor to change any other assets in the game.

eXtendable WAD Editor - This is a fairly simple WAD editor and can edit many game assets with ease, though the project is no longer actively maintained.

SLADE is also used a lot, though I haven't used this tool before.

Any thoughts?
 
Thanks homie! Hilarious idea, hope some Kiwis can get it off the ground. I personally just imagine a shitty little mod with every enemy having Shame’s face on it. Having me as a boss would be personally entertaining.

I don’t know shit about modding, and don’t have a ton of free time, but I’ll be keeping an eye on it.
 
I think developing for GZDoom is best as this engine adds cool new features such as dynamic lighting, advanced scripting capabilities and even "3D" level design.
Thanks for making the thread. I just downloaded GZ and snagged a 1.9 WAD. Played the first couple levels. It's been a while since I've played OG DOOM.

SLADE might be a good bet, but I've never modded. But hey it's Linux/Windows which works for me. BTW I use Arch.

I am wondering how collaboration would work. Maybe we can do a Github, or maybe someone can set up a Gitlab somewhere. Maybe if we ask Null nicely he can set one up for us, because I don't know where or how we'd host something like that.

I've been hacking/scripting for a long time, though I've got some rust to shake off. If we'd want to do achievements or something that requires some programming legwork, I may be able to throw my hat in the ring.
 
I have some ideas for the mod, not sure how difficult some would be to implement but hopefully they aren't too crazy:

1. Health pick ups are mountain dew, armor pick ups are his wife's gunt.

2. Plot of the game is Shane boldly travelling into Kiwi Farms to defeat Null and destroy the site. One mission could even be destroying Kiwi Flare so DDOS attacks can go through.

3. A secret stage that resembles the forums when they were the CWCki forums. Maybe you have to collect the seven Sonichu Balls or find Chris to get here. Maybe Chris is a secret boss.

4. A random idea I had is a parody of annoying tutorials like Navi or Omochao in the form of RubinRemus trying to give you advice and tips on how to play. Part of this would include telling him to fuck off and kill himself to make him go away. Alternatively a potential achievement can be to beat the entire game with Rubin pestering you.

5. One gun, maybe the plasma cannon should fire puzzle pieces as a reference to Shane's favourite rating. Maybe call it the Negrator.

6. @I'm Just A Worm is one of the boss fights in the game.

This is what I have for now. I will also say I was going to suggest GZDoom so I'm glad we seem to be in agreement on that.
 
I said it in the other thread, but I really think one of the bosses/mobs should be the Butterknife Babysitter. It's a shame we don't know her but I'm sure one of you inventive Kiwis can come up with some sort of masked monstrosity.
LOL kino. Here’s my ideas for bosses:

  1. Elon Musk
  2. Trump
  3. Me
  4. Null
The final boss could be a gigantic Butter Knife.

The opposite could be a laugh. Make Shane's mugshot a gigachad that progressively becomes fatter, balder and greasier as the enemy gunfire exposes him as what he truly is.
Hilarious. I would be thrilled to help draw that.
 
The opposite could be a laugh. Make Shane's mugshot a gigachad that progressively becomes fatter, balder and greasier as the enemy gunfire exposes him as what he truly is.
I like this idea a lot. His bloody face from the bus fight is perfect as a critical health picture. Maybe at low health Shane also makes quips about how it was a lucky shot and he's still the winner.

I am also thinking maybe a TempleOS Terry Davis level could be cool. The enemies could be glowniggers. If Elon is a boss we could have a Twitter stage. We could do a Discord stage where troons try and groom you.
 
Maybe call it the Negrator.
I love that. Shooting islamic content and autism at people would be amazing.

We can't forget PST, of course. Maybe Fatrick could be Cacodemons. Each demon could be a cow. Cacodemon is PST, Zombieman can be Greer, Cobra can be Pinky.
I am also thinking maybe a TempleOS Terry Davis level could be cool. The enemies could be glowniggers.
Lol and then replace one of the guns with a car. You just run them over, that's what you do.
 
I love that. Shooting islamic content and autism at people would be amazing.

We can't forget PST, of course. Maybe Fatrick could be Cacodemons. Each demon could be a cow. Cacodemon is PST, Zombieman can be Greer, Cobra can be Pinky.

Lol and then replace one of the guns with a car. You just run them over, that's what you do.
I think if the final level is the farms and the final boss is Jersh, generic enemies could be Kiwilers and Nullies. Maybe we rename the double barrel shotgun the Troon Toothbrush and have an achievement for completing 41% of the game
 
I am also thinking maybe a TempleOS Terry Davis level could be cool. The enemies could be glowniggers. If Elon is a boss we could have a Twitter stage. We could do a Discord stage where troons try and groom you.
That requires quite a bit of abstraction unless you're going for the straight jokewad angle with the messages plastered on the walls and shit, which isn't impossible but requires a very deft touch. If it were me, I'd go the Duke Nukem 3D-style route and model the levels after real locations, blast through strip malls with Microsoft stores and slum neighborhoods filled with trolls and eventually the Kiwi Farms headquarters (a la 4-cent garbage) culminating with the top secret OoperatorBunker. Also, the back story writes itself:

You are Shane Nokes, former cybersecurity expert. Your honorable retirement to live in peace with your girlfriend is suddenly broken up by a call from Bill Gates himself: the evil Null has stolen all the Microsoft Alumni cards (retextured Doom keycards) and is planning to use them in a ritual to make Kiwi Farms invulnerable to DDoS and the authorities! You must recollect the artifacts and fight the vile beast before the hate site expands to subjugate all mankind under a dark age of racism.
 
That requires quite a bit of abstraction unless you're going for the straight jokewad angle with the messages plastered on the walls and shit, which isn't impossible but requires a very deft touch. If it were me, I'd go the Duke Nukem 3D-style route and model the levels after real locations, blast through strip malls with Microsoft stores and slum neighborhoods filled with trolls and eventually the Kiwi Farms headquarters (a la 4-cent garbage) culminating with the top secret OoperatorBunker. Also, the back story writes itself:

You are Shane Nokes, former cybersecurity expert. Your honorable retirement to live in peace with your girlfriend is suddenly broken up by a call from Bill Gates himself: the evil Null has stolen all the Microsoft Alumni cards (retextured Doom keycards) and is planning to use them in a ritual to make Kiwi Farms invulnerable to DDoS and the authorities! You must recollect the artifacts and fight the vile beast before the hate site expands to subjugate all mankind under a dark age of racism.
I meant the walls would look like Temple OS, as in a skin or sticker. Same with the KiwiFarms and CWCki Forums stage. Those are really good stage ideas, especially 4-Cent garbage.

Edit: An idea I had is joke difficulties like "Game Journalist" as the easiest, "Internet Tough Guy" as normal and "True and Honest" as the hardest
 
I meant the walls would look like Temple OS, as in a skin or sticker. Same with the KiwiFarms and CWCki Forums stage. Those are really good stage ideas, especially 4-Cent garbage.

Edit: An idea I had is joke difficulties like "Game Journalist" as the easiest, "Internet Tough Guy" as normal and "True and Honest" as the hardest
Oh yeah, since he's the cybersecurity expert you could just insert those stages in between real life shit because he's hacking into the systems to gather clues and defeat his enemies.
 
Oh yeah, since he's the cybersecurity expert you could just insert those stages in between real life shit because he's hacking into the systems to gather clues and defeat his enemies.
That's brilliant. I really like this idea a lot. It would let us get a good balance of website themed stages and real life locations. Another thing we could do is in the cybersecurity sections of the game, Shane is more alpha and powerful compared to his real life soy counterpart.
 
I'm probably just going to start on the "Shane hikes two miles to get to the grocery store" level in my free time and see if I make any headway.
I'll think of more ideas and try to maybe come up with definitive lists of levels and all the weapons. When we have all of those decided on, we will be a lot more organized. I think the real life and cybersecurity/online alternation is a good idea and direction for the mod.
 
Trying to install Slade now. Gotta compile everything. Takes forever.

I'm sort of the opinion that a more generalized approach would be good. I love Shame, but he's just one small part of the site, you know? There's like a million threads, and I think more people would "get it" if you played as the Slobbermutt and he went through levels for various cows. Get a Shame level, and PST level, King Terry level, Ralph level, etc. and a Sonichu/CWC level as the final boss. This would also provide a lot of room to scale going forward as well. Like if there's a new thread that gets popular, a level could be added for the cow.

I know that Shame is our subject, but how often does a DOOM mod come out for KF?
Any thoughts on that? BTW if everyone's like "Harb, stfu & kys" that's cool too. I'm down for whatever. I just wanna do computer nerd shit.
 
Idea: the pistol is replaced by Chris Chan’s megatron pistol. I’m sure if I found a sprite mod featuring a Walther P38 I could easily edit it to be the gun of fail
 
Can yall also make Pat and Jackie playable characters? Maybe use one of Pat's many "child" audios for a gun sound effect? Also, make the machete into a butter knife?
 
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