Should autistics be allowed to express creativity via public venues?

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Autism and creativity go together like peanut butter and crack and that combination is exactly why the Kiwi Farms can function as a community based around making fun of speds and weirdos. Making fun of speds and weirdos does not necessarily discourage them from creativity (unless you're @Connor Bible and just use it as an excuse to whine about how you can't write while fishing for asspats).

Now here's where the real dilemma comes. We know autistics to be a simple minded lot and probably think they'd be better off being an assistant under someone's heel rather than an autonomous creative entity because every creative autistic is totally another Chris-Chan. For every 20 Chris-Chans, you probably have a Satoshi Tajiri. Is it worth allowing 20 Sonichu's to roam the creative landscape for the hope of a masterpiece made by an autist, as an example of what autists can potentially do?

However, non-autistics (I hate using the neurotypical/neurodiverse terms sometimes just because of the association with tumblr and stuck up aspie movements) can be just as simple minded, but they typically have even sharper tongues than an autist whose mind can make about 50 times as many connections in a second. Because humans are social creatures, the sharpest tongue can keep the strongest mind down, just by convincing more simple minded people that autists are just geeky lepers who can't do shit or whatever (In short people can be terrible especially if they have anything resembling power over others - I'm looking at Autism Speaks and their terrible videos).

Is it worth suppressing or censoring the works of people based on a neurological condition they have just to make sure some simple minded folk don't get triggered by a weirdo in their creative landscape? Now I seriously don't believe this is implemented in any way and don't think any sane person would unironically think about that, but all it takes is a malevolent crazy or self-loathing parent of someone with autism to convince enough idiots to turn the vistas of the creative landscape into a death trap for autistic people. If we actively fight people solely based on a condition they have, are we really any better than Tumblr?

The thing that really prompted this thought is, I had this idea to make an autism themed Dark Souls-esque RPG named "Autism Quest" (yes it's meant to be a Depression Quest pisstake but text adventures are boring and I also think a graphical style of gameplay would work better to convey autism). While it hasn't been shot down yet, and despite how accurate and empowering I may make my depictions, I can see myself raising some controversy and making enemies should that game ever see the light of day. It could even spark something like what I just described.
 
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If this isn't bait, your grasp on our legal and political system is truly apalling.
This wasn't necessarily a legal or political debate, I was leaning more towards social issues beneath the legal/political levels (because I don't seriously think that America's legal and political systems would allow systemic abuse of people based on one condition, that's inhumane, impractical, and above all ridiculous). Even then I don't seriously think people are gonna burn some autistic's house down with Molotov cocktails just because he combined Ness with Pikachu or whatever, but there's still only so much dickery from the Chris-Chans and Tumblr snowflakes that the name of autism can take before people decide that autistics in general are not to be taken seriously. What I'm really getting at is, on an individual, social level, would we really stand for people being bullied out of their craft, regardless of merit, just because of a brain condition?
 
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but there's still only so much dickery from the Chris-Chans and Tumblr snowflakes that the name of autism can take before people decide that autistics in general are not to be taken seriously and probably need a guide with them at all times to stop the :tumblr:ery.

Are the autists hurting you? Is their fuckery doing anything to wider society besides making some people shake their heads and others laugh? (Setting aside the fact that autism is one of those super broad medical terms that ranges from "Can't do anything but moan and hurt themselves" to "would never know was autistic unless he said something".)
 
If it's public, then autistics can post in it just like anybody else. It wouldn't be public otherwise. Whether they should be doing it is another story, but you don't have to be austistic to post shitty art on a public website (i.e. DeviantArt).

Also, OP needs to learn the difference between
Kiwi Farms autism and actual autism.
 
Spergs gonna sperg, and if they're amusing we'll laugh at them. If they're not we'll ignore them. If you honestly think that they're "ruining the name of autists everywhere" or whatever, you're probably on the wrong site.
 
It's worth noting that Pokemon was created by a diagnosed sperg

So yeah autists should be let to do whatever they want. Who are we to judge who is or isn't mentally qualified to make stuff.

It's also worth noting even trying to prevent them from creating is just going to encourage more of it
 
No honeypot, no troll, no bait, no hooks, serious discussion only, Final Destination.

So yes, autism and creativity go together like peanut butter and crack and that combination is exactly why the Kiwi Farms can function as a community based around making fun of speds and weirdos. Making fun of speds and weirdos does not necessarily discourage them from creativity (unless you're @Connor Bible and just use it as an excuse to whine about how you can't write while fishing for asspats).

Now here's where the real dilemma comes. We know autistics to be a simple minded lot and probably think they'd be better off being an assistant under someone's heel rather than an autonomous creative entity because every creative autistic is totally another Chris-Chan. For every 20 Chris-Chans, you probably have a Satoshi Tajiri. Is it worth allowing 20 Sonichu's to roam the creative landscape for the hope of a masterpiece made by an autist, as an example of what autists can potentially do?

However, non-autistics (I hate using the neurotypical/neurodiverse terms sometimes just because of the association with tumblr and stuck up aspie movements) can be just as simple minded, but they typically have even sharper tongues than an autist whose mind can make about 50 times as many connections in a second. Because humans are social creatures, the sharpest tongue can keep the strongest mind down, just by convincing more simple minded people that autists are just geeky lepers who can't do shit or whatever (In short people can be terrible especially if they have anything resembling power over others - I'm looking at Autism Speaks and their terrible videos).

Is it worth suppressing or censoring the works of people based on a neurological condition they have just to make sure some simple minded folk don't get triggered by a weirdo in their creative landscape? Now I seriously don't believe this is implemented in any way and don't think any sane person would unironically think about that, but all it takes is a malevolent crazy or self-loathing parent of someone with autism to convince enough idiots to turn the vistas of the creative landscape into a death trap for autistic people. If we actively fight people solely based on a condition they have, are we really any better than Tumblr?

The thing that really prompted this thought is, I had this idea to make an autism themed Dark Souls-esque RPG named "Autism Quest" (yes it's meant to be a Depression Quest pisstake but text adventures are boring and I also think a graphical style of gameplay would work better to convey autism). While it hasn't been shot down yet, and despite how accurate and empowering I may make my depictions, I can see myself raising some controversy and making enemies should that game ever see the light of day. It could even spark something like what I just described.
I don't think that the government should ban anybody from creating creative works, that's freedom of speech, the question is whether autistic creativity is worth the time of people not whether it is allowed.
 
No honeypot, no troll, no bait, no hooks, serious discussion only, Final Destination.

So yes, autism and creativity go together like peanut butter and crack and that combination is exactly why the Kiwi Farms can function as a community based around making fun of speds and weirdos. Making fun of speds and weirdos does not necessarily discourage them from creativity (unless you're @Connor Bible and just use it as an excuse to whine about how you can't write while fishing for asspats).

Now here's where the real dilemma comes. We know autistics to be a simple minded lot and probably think they'd be better off being an assistant under someone's heel rather than an autonomous creative entity because every creative autistic is totally another Chris-Chan. For every 20 Chris-Chans, you probably have a Satoshi Tajiri. Is it worth allowing 20 Sonichu's to roam the creative landscape for the hope of a masterpiece made by an autist, as an example of what autists can potentially do?

However, non-autistics (I hate using the neurotypical/neurodiverse terms sometimes just because of the association with tumblr and stuck up aspie movements) can be just as simple minded, but they typically have even sharper tongues than an autist whose mind can make about 50 times as many connections in a second. Because humans are social creatures, the sharpest tongue can keep the strongest mind down, just by convincing more simple minded people that autists are just geeky lepers who can't do shit or whatever (In short people can be terrible especially if they have anything resembling power over others - I'm looking at Autism Speaks and their terrible videos).

Is it worth suppressing or censoring the works of people based on a neurological condition they have just to make sure some simple minded folk don't get triggered by a weirdo in their creative landscape? Now I seriously don't believe this is implemented in any way and don't think any sane person would unironically think about that, but all it takes is a malevolent crazy or self-loathing parent of someone with autism to convince enough idiots to turn the vistas of the creative landscape into a death trap for autistic people. If we actively fight people solely based on a condition they have, are we really any better than Tumblr?

The thing that really prompted this thought is, I had this idea to make an autism themed Dark Souls-esque RPG named "Autism Quest" (yes it's meant to be a Depression Quest pisstake but text adventures are boring and I also think a graphical style of gameplay would work better to convey autism). While it hasn't been shot down yet, and despite how accurate and empowering I may make my depictions, I can see myself raising some controversy and making enemies should that game ever see the light of day. It could even spark something like what I just described.


i dont understand
 
I don't quite understand what you're getting at. Autistics shouldn't be taken seriously and so they shouldn't be allowed to use the internet?
 
they typically have even sharper tongues than an autist whose mind can make about 50 times as many connections in a second. Because humans are social creatures, the sharpest tongue can keep the strongest mind down
That just isn't true. In any way.
 
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