Some furries argue about something or whatever

[Equal Rights for Androids]

Reminder that Vinnie, a young ADULT, decided to be fake and gay for Mel who at the time was proven to be harassing victims of Marl, and was known to have raped a dog, and was known to have been manipulative. Just because you're their friends don't mean you can just IGNORE EVIDENCE OF A CHILD BEING GROOMED AND THEN MARL ADMITTING TO IT. Remember that Vinnie was in the Floraverse server up to three months ago which means Vinnie has been friends with Melanie past the point of Melanie admitting she had raped not one but TWO dogs. Being forced to rape one dog? Maybe. TWO????? nigga you DIVORCE BY THAT POINT. Vinnie has no fucking excuse. Why, after all this time of being nagged by Opa, did they choose to reveal these logs? Why is it only now? Why did it take opa being mean to you to break out these logs instead of realizing that Melanie is a fucking freak? It makes me think that Vinnie is okay with bestiality/animal rape and child grooming. Because that apparently wasn't fucking enough for them to bring up these recent logs. It's only after Opa was mean enough???

 

[Irate Commander]

decided to be fake and gay for Mel who at the time was proven to be harassing victims of Marl, and was known to have raped a dog, and was known to have been manipulative.

FYI these chat logs are from 2019, before they admitted to raping the first dog.

 

[sneaselDontlikefruit]

Reminder that Vinnie, a young ADULT, decided to be fake and gay for Mel who at the time was proven to be harassing victims of Marl, and was known to have raped a dog, and was known to have been manipulative. Just because you're their friends don't mean you can just IGNORE EVIDENCE OF A CHILD BEING GROOMED AND THEN MARL ADMITTING TO IT. Remember that Vinnie was in the Floraverse server up to three months ago which means Vinnie has been friends with Melanie past the point of Melanie admitting she had raped not one but TWO dogs. Being forced to rape one dog? Maybe. TWO????? nigga you DIVORCE BY THAT POINT. Vinnie has no fucking excuse. Why, after all this time of being nagged by Opa, did they choose to reveal these logs? Why is it only now? Why did it take opa being mean to you to break out these logs instead of realizing that Melanie is a fucking freak? It makes me think that Vinnie is okay with bestiality/animal rape and child grooming. Because that apparently wasn't fucking enough for them to bring up these recent logs. It's only after Opa was mean enough???

Mother fucker ain’t you the retard who was so damn afraid of Ash that you contacted ME to have ME dox Ash?!

And yet you expect someone who has followed Ash for decades to not be gaslit to hell and back and not fully be aware of the shit they’ve done? How retarded are you? What level of faggot asks some other retard to dox someone for them? Also, can you read dates?

These messages from Opa clearly state they were from 2019. Vinnie most likely didn’t do this because of Opa, the mod of SSA probably mentioned these logs specifically to taunt Opa. I’ll criticize Flora people all day but when they go to SSA to leak shit? Yeah, they probably hate Ash and company.

 

[Equal Rights for Androids]

Mother fucker ain’t you the retard who was so damn afraid of Ash that you contacted ME to have ME dox Ash?!
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And yet you expect someone who has followed Ash for decades to not be gaslit to hell and back and not fully be aware of the shit they’ve done? How retarded are you? What level of faggot asks some other retard to dox someone for them? Also, can you read dates?
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These messages from Opa clearly state they were from 2019. Vinnie most likely didn’t do this because of Opa, the mod of SSA probably mentioned these logs specifically to taunt Opa. I’ll criticize Flora people all day but when they go to SSA to leak shit? Yeah, they probably hate Ash and company.

I wasn't afraid you dumb fuck. I didn't want the dox to be connected to me obtaining her address at a specific time. I didn't realize that it'd been posted five fucking years ago. I posted it later. 1205 Auburn Dr, Colorado Springs, CO 80909

Why did you censor it? glip apparently has a lot of fucking dirt on you, so much that it's whipped you into not posting the address. You've done some fucked up shit yourself if you're that afraid of glip doxing you after all that you've said about her in this thread.


The logs of marl grooming children came out YEARS BEFORE THESE LOGS thanks to people like bigfluff.
I will copypaste what I told Vinnie.
Vinnie was abusive by attempting to manipulate victims of glip/marl/eevee/opa/etc on Kiwifarms by pretending to be someone they're not and then getting people to feel bad for Vinnie by faking being targeted by glip in the server and twitter. Vinnie made a mockery of people who actually went through that shit.

Vinnie performed a gay op with glip in a place where victims of glip/marl/eevee/opa join together to discuss, because glip harassed them off every other platform. Vinnie is culpable for at least some of the pain caused to these victims by continuing to support glip up until three fucking months ago.

And Vinnie didn't bother to apologize to anyone, either. It's only after something bad happened to Vinnie in the floraverse gang that Vinnie revealed those logs. Vinnie was a fucking adult when they did these things. Vinnie is not a nice person. What normal person ignores the overwhelming evidence of Glip and Marl committing federal crimes?

The logs may have occurred in 2019 but vinnie has continued to positively interact with glip for fucking years afterwards. Right up until three months ago. Vinnie is just as culpable as every other person.

SSA isn't any fucking better. They've had numerous drama incidents with members of their own group and have sworn themselves to secrecy (always a great idea when dealing with drama, right? lmao). They're cult-like and a hot mess themselves. They've had numerous gayop instances that ended up with glip banning a lot of moles. They currently harbor Vinnie in their ranks. you know, the bitch who made light of people who were fucking abused by Marl, Opa, and glip WITH LOGS TO PROVE IT. and hasn't fucking apologized for any of it. how much you want to bet that vinnie was reporting back to glip this entire fucking time about the what-goes-ons in all floraverse-related servers?

 

[sneaselDontlikefruit]

(Can’t reply for some reason, KF glitched or something).

Now I want to make it clear, what Vinnie said and did in that group chat is on them. No doubt about that. But unlike everyone else in that group, Vinnie is leaking shit, which to me at least shows some level of guilt or care about the situation. I’ll be honest, I’ve talked to Vinnie, and there is a lot Vinnie just.. didn’t know a lot of shit Ash did. Do I think Vinnie is entirely innocent in this? Hell no, but do I think we should attack someone who just came out of Floraverse and started to leak stuff? NO! That’ll make more people less likely to do so, and we want Ash to be left all a fucking lone without anyone cheering - or paying - them on.

 

[Equal Rights for Androids]

and there is a lot Vinnie just.. didn’t know a lot of shit Ash did.

>posting on kiwifarms on a thread dedicated to documenting the fucked up shit melanie did
>just ignoring it all

One can only suspend their disbelief for so fucking long. Considering how much Vinnie has lied in the past, especially to play gay ops on kiwifarms as Mr. Five, I wouldn't be so quick to believe they didn't know jack shit. Vinnie needs to apologize for what they'd done. They chose to leak the horrible shit they'd done. Do they deserve an applause for doing the right thing after doing so much fucking wrong? No.

 

[sneaselDontlikefruit]

>posting on kiwifarms on a thread dedicated to documenting the fucked up shit melanie did
>just ignoring it all

One can only suspend their disbelief for so fucking long. Considering how much Vinnie has lied in the past, especially to play gay ops on kiwifarms as Mr. Five, I wouldn't be so quick to believe they didn't know jack shit. Vinnie needs to apologize for what they'd done. They chose to leak the horrible shit they'd done. Do they deserve an applause for doing the right thing after doing so much fucking wrong? No.

Oh definitely don’t applaud Vinnie, i ain’t saying that

 

[CallieMarie]

a gay ops were you post on a public facing forum that any asshole can join and post on while saying who you are isn't that gay

 

[sneaselDontlikefruit]

are we certain that it's out of remorse and not because they're angry at opa or others in the floraverse for being kicked out due to jolly and want revenge by showing their ops? Because that's happened in the past with many past diehard fans of lolcows including those of melanie's
Remember: vinnie didn't leave before they kicked them out for interacting with jolly. they're only posting these logs after they were removed from the server for interacting with jolly. this isn't an act of remorse. this is an act of revenge.

which, okay, is fine. But don't try to act buddy buddy with people like you were the one being victimized over this, Vinnie lmao

my dude, why the hate bonner? What the fuck did Vinnie do to you specifically? Did they kill your mother? Upper decker your toilet? Put food dye in all your sponges?

 

[Equal Rights for Androids]

my dude, why the hate bonner? What the fuck did Vinnie do to you specifically? Did they kill your mother? Upper decker your toilet? Put food dye in all your sponges?

I don't like that Vinnie is trying to make themselves into another victim after they fucking made fun of actual victims of glip. They had so much support from other victims when they were fucking faking it the entire time.

again, no fucking attempt to apologize whatsoever. People seem to forget the victims as soon as more juicy drama comes out of the woodworks. vinnie has been acting like nothing they've done is wrong this entire time. They don't have any remorse for their actions and I find it fucking disgusting that they have the gall to write "awaits oncoming angry vns about me being abusive somehow" after they made fun of other users who had to go through the same thing.

I will literally stop being mad as soon as they apologize for what they've done. That's all I ask. It's more than can be asked of for the likes of people like glip.

 

[Legosi]

Remember vinnie didn't leave before they kicked them out for interacting with jolly. they're only posting these logs after they were removed from the server for interacting with jolly. this isn't an act of remorse. this is an act of revenge.

As was previously stated, they were financially reliant on the discord community for commissions so of course they wouldn't step on any toes at that point regardless of what they really thought of the community as a whole. Them being kicked meant they now have nothing to lose. Why else would they have archived all of these logs? They knew they'd be kicked eventually for something or they'd finally have the support they needed in order to leave. It just ended up being the former.

I understand the want for an apology and I don't think that's completely unreasonable. Especially with how many in this thread worried for their safety during their little gay ops here. I won't argue with that.

 

[Equal Rights for Androids]

I’ll be honest, I’ve talked to Vinnie, and there is a lot Vinnie just.. didn’t know a lot of shit Ash did

Sorry to keep bringing this up but the MrFive account was made in 2017, two years before the gay shit. And Vinnie was posting about floraverse back then

they knew, they fucking knew, and they lied to you about not knowing. They did not care what glip had done because they continued to fuck around with glip.

they were financially reliant on the discord community for commissions so of course they wouldn't step on any toes at that point regardless of what they really thought of the community as a whole.

Makes sense. Just goes to show how morally/ethically weak Vinnie is. Combined with lying about what they didn't know, I wouldn't trust anything vinnie fucking says outside of direct logs.

You don't have a right to dislike my judgment when I am one of the people that was attacked by glip in the manner that you made fun of in the past. I lost my fanbase—my sole source of income at the time—because of her. You decided to lay in bed with her basically by sucking her followers' teats for money.

Vinnie said sorry so I'll chill out now. thank you @MRfive

 

[sneaselDontlikefruit]

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You don't have a right to dislike my judgment when I am one of the people that was attacked by glip in the manner that you made fun of in the past. I lost my fanbase—my sole source of income at the time—because of her. You decided to lay in bed with her basically by sucking her followers' teats for money.
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Vinnie said sorry so I'll chill out now. thank you @MRfive

Oh you were attacked by Ash too!? Welcome to the club!! Seriously, that doesn’t make you special here. Sorry to spoil that for you.

 

[Equal Rights for Androids]

Oh you were attacked by Ash too!? Welcome to the club!! Seriously, that doesn’t make you special here. Sorry to spoil that for you.

You're nearly as toxic as ass with that repugnant personality of yours. Fuck off with your pussy ass "Ash would dox me if I posted anything sensitive as the address that had already been posted 5 years ago!!!" No one was looking for brownie points. Vinnie needed to apologize for the multiple victims that they made fun of. They apologized. End of story. This thread would likely be a thousand pages shorter if glip managed to do the same thing.

 

[sneaselDontlikefruit]

You're nearly as toxic as ass with that repugnant personality of yours. Fuck off with your pussy ass "Ash would dox me if I posted anything sensitive as the address that had already been posted 5 years ago!!!" No one was looking for brownie points. Vinnie needed to apologize for the multiple victims that they made fun of. They apologized. End of story. This thread would likely be a thousand pages shorter if glip managed to do the same thing.

I’m glad I struck a cord.

 

[Spoonomancer]

The in-fighting in this thread is fucking retarded for fighting over stupid bullshit when a good portion the important additions to this thread come from people who were in Floraverse before being wronged by Glip.