Strange and unusual factors behind DEI/woke ideology - Interest rates, narrative consultants, and more

[melty]

Reading through the Sweet Baby Inc thread has gotten me thinking; a year ago, I'd never even heard of a "narrative consultant", and now, the biggest blow against wokeness in games in a decade came just from putting a minor spotlight on a small company. It turned out a large amount of the cancer in games had a small source that could be more easily acted against.

Two years ago, I had never heard of the concept of interest rates effecting DEI and probably would have never imagined it. I bet nobody else here had thought of it, either. Yet after months of interest rate hikes, the correlation between free money and DEI has become abundantly clear. I now believe the huge increase in woke internet media from 2008 onward was in part due to this large amount of free money given to people with loose standards looking to start internet media companies, many of whom were and/or hired stupid millennials who were especially susceptible to a certain ideology. This went hand in hand with changes to Google's search engine that boosted all these shiny new well-funded sites like Buzzfeed.

All of this leads me to believe that there may be other strange or unexplored factors that have participated in the growth of wokeness in society and could perhaps be used against it in some way. Any thoughts on what those may be?

 

[Stephanie Bustcakes]

a large amount of the cancer in games had a small source that could be more easily acted against.

Not really. Sweet Baby Inc was just the one that got attention. It's like how if you find one cockroach in your house it means that there are thousands of them in your house that you don't see. There are many other consultancy companies that nobody knows about, and many companies have their own internal versions of these.

 

[Chilson]

You didn't notice this two years ago? The connection between infinite money printing and DEI has been noticed, and widely discussed, for at least a decade, if not longer.

Also Sweet baby was just one of dozens, if not hundreds, of "consultant" agencies that do the exact same shit.

 

[Trump's Chosen]

Reading through the Sweet Baby Inc thread has gotten me thinking; a year ago, I'd never even heard of a "narrative consultant", and now, the biggest blow against wokeness in games in a decade came just from putting a minor spotlight on a small company. It turned out a large amount of the cancer in games had a small source that could be more easily acted against.

How is this really different from anita sarkeesian? It's like blaming the protestant great iconoclasm on a local preacher. Firms like sweet baby are just priests preaching to an already believing company. It doesn't require outside consultants when half the population is some degree of woke, and that for any company where they're the majority/leadership, voicing your non-wokeness is a ticket to unemployment.

Sweet baby is just a convenient target to meme against, just like DEI. DEI by another name has grown since as far back as the 70s. The early versions of it, like Ripley in Alien, were and are celebrated, even by people that will foam at the mouth//laugh hysterically when you mention sweet baby. But it was growth in the same direction. It just didn't poison the whole well back then.

For example, Sigourney's weaver character was originally written for a man (though they only cast women for it at the later stages), Lambert was transgender. But it's a fucking good movie so even if people complain it's hard to even hear or entertain them. The whole creative well wasn't poisoned with it from back to front.



Any type of ideological modification is equally creatively bankrupt. Like the endings that the communist party of china gives to movies. Like fight club.



Of course the difference is that the changes come from inside the building and sometimes are part of the creative process now, performed by people who don't have sufficient experience or skill to know better.

 

[Male Idiot]

That Aliens shit sounds like dystopian reality. But so is real life trannies if one pulls off the sugar coating... so not is it only in theme for a dystopian corpo future to sex change babies at birth, but it is also something that I feel we are heading towards. Just there the tranny maybe was created because some office drone thought they needed more secretaries at a colony, where as in real life the trannies are there to be political activists and big pharma walking wallets.

A tranny is a literal product for politicians to use and big pharma to get rich off on, as it needs constant upkeep. Either from its own wagie cagie pay or from taxpayers, Big Corpo cares not. They'll even throw in the antifa commie flag at a 1% discount.

 

[Insuficiencia renal]

The left is fabian. They have always been, this is nothing new and it should not be surprising or unexpected.

 

[Dysnomia]

I'd never even heard of a "narrative consultant",

I think it's similar to when an author or a filmmaker needs input on a subject out of their field. Like if they are writing a story about a cancer patient and need it to be as medically accurate as possible ect... I think it's a good idea if you are writing about history or another culture. But "muh sensitivities" is just a con game. I wouldn't be surprised if Sweet Baby is involved in money laundering.

Sweet baby is just a convenient target to meme against, just like DEI. DEI by another name has grown since as far back as the 70s. The early versions of it, like Ripley in Alien, were and are celebrated, even by people that will foam at the mouth//laugh hysterically when you mention sweet baby. But it was growth in the same direction. It just didn't poison the whole well back then.

For example, Sigourney's weaver character was originally written for a man (though they only cast women for it at the later stages), Lambert was transgender. But it's a fucking good movie so even if people complain it's hard to even hear or entertain them. The whole creative well wasn't poisoned with it from back to front.

Morgan Freeman as Red in The Shawshank Redemption. Complete race swap. But he played the part so memorably it was like it was made for him. Race and gender swaps aren't always terrible. With Alien it was a screenplay and not an already established book that people had read previously. Most of the reason why I'm on the fence about these things in general is that they will never cast a white person in a role originally featuring a POC and rarely raceswap a woman for a man. I understand that at one time there was an actual diversity problem. But now that we are being blasted with it from all angles I think it's time to tone it down. Not everything has to be DEI enhanced woketardation.

Most of my annoyances come from trannies though. Race I can give or take most of the time. Although a black Anne Boleyn? That was ludacrous. Literally nothing was stopping you from making an original story paralleling Anne's life. I wouldn't be so annoyed if it wasn't mostly only white historical figured that get raceflipped. Level the playing field and maybe we'll talk.

I didn't know about Lambert originally being a tranny. Thank God they didn't go through with it. Because we'd never hear the end of how Alien was a trans film.

 

[Trump's Chosen]

I didn't know about Lambert originally being a tranny. Thank God they didn't go through with it. Because we'd never hear the end of how Alien was a trans film.

The screenshot is from the extra features of aliens. It's also visible in the background in the movie itself, when they flip through the deaths of the people of the first movie. So they went through with it and it is (subtle) canon. The same way that the memento website had clues that take away the ambiguity of whether lenny is sammy jenkis (he is).

I understand that at one time there was an actual diversity problem.

This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the power game being played. There is no such thing as a diversity problem. It literally doesn't exist. Because it presumes there is some ideal balance, and we're at the point where we have discovered, it would require every group to pursue that supposed ideal balance, when each benefits from pursuing another equilibrium that isn't the ideal balance of diversity, but rather, the betterment of their group, whatever those groupings are.

It has taken extraordinary amounts of propaganda to sell this false bill of goods, and people are all stuck in whatever level the propaganda was at when they were teenagers.

 

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[FatalTater]

I do not understand wanting to take white historical characters and try making them black.
Africa is a big place. Do they not have people who could be written about?
Mansa Musa was interesting. Can no one make a movie about him?

...or is the entire point to polarize people so we don't work together? Would the common folk cooperating as a large group be bad for anyone we can think of?

 

[Moths]

Does this mean I get money if I coom in a man?

 

[Kari Kamiya]

so not is it only in theme for a dystopian corpo future to sex change babies at birth

I thought there was a description that Lambert was transitioned in-utero because even in the future anyone could have access to designer babies/sex-selection.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

The largest cause IMO is that we've hit stagnation as a society due to our own foolish decisions. The pot hasn't gotten any bigger, but there's far more elites (and by that I mean the upper class, not the genuine world rulers) competing for it. The solution is imposing new codes of social conduct, which beats alternatives like violent purges. Historically this was done through religion (i.e. give the most to the Church/build the fanciest mosque/etc.) or indeed literal social codes. Like Western table manners were among the codes the French elite made up (in the era that nobles went from being military elites not far removed from knights to being bureaucrats) to determine who was a true nobleman and who was some provincial lout.

I almost think "wokeness" (i.e. cultural Marxism) was almost inevitable now. If you're an elite, you want the people divided (as cultural Marxism does), you want a system that glorifies the fringe of society (so a cudgel against the middle class, who are very dangerous if united plus devolving people with sex, drugs, porn, transgenderism, etc), and you want an easy way to determine which prospective elite is worth your time to promote into the high ranks of the laptop caste, C-suites, and NGOcracies. So they selected a fairly fringe ideology that goes back a century to Gramsci, expounded on by the Frankfurt School, and made practical by 90s-era "political correctness" and made it take over society. It became the social code that you HAD to follow, lest you lose your place in the elite. And the elite REALLY hate falling out of the elite back into the ranks of middle class plebs, so they begrudgingly followed it.

As for lower classes, they're the recipients of this culture. The middle class must adopt it in hopes of joining the elite or otherwise getting patronage (i.e. joining the laptop caste, NGO job, etc). Businesses and governments at all levels must adopt it for the same reasons. Therefore it spreads top down, and in a very direct manner since we live in the age of megacorporations, the social media propaganda machine (and 24/7 cable news for boomers), and the decline of independent entrepreneurs who have sources of power independent from this.

As OP notes, the free money from banks was a very potent tool in spreading this ideology to the point it defied basic economic logic. Sweet Baby Inc really isn't much in the grand scheme of things--they're just recipients of this largesse. 400 years ago they'd be some pretentious atelier a noble funded, and there would be many just like them.

 

[Chris Konon]

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The origins of DEI movement and it's rise to power and having an iron grip on everything from work and corporate environments to media is an interesting topic worth researching. I don't know how we got here, but I assume it was Jewish juden-ops shenanigans.