Streaming Service General - And grievance thread

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Streaming services have gotten big within the past few years, to the point where they've made traditional methods of viewing television and movies (Physical media, linear television (in most cases), DVR recording) virtually obsolete, as why use any of those when you can just watch stuff over the internet for a subscription price per month?

Below are some of the major streaming services available as of now:

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Starting off as a DVD rental service in 1997 (making it the oldest of the streaming services here), their original business model has long fallen out of favor (although it's still possible to rent DVDs from their website). In it's place, their current business model lies around their streaming content, either from vendors like Sony Pictures (Columbia Pictures, Tri-Star, etc.), or their original content (like Stranger Things, Arcane, etc.). It is the biggest of the streaming services with 200+ million subscribers, though that number has dropped on a few occasions (see the Cuties controversy)

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Launched in 2019, and is likely the catalyst for the streaming bubble we are seeing now. Obviously, Disney+ hosts content produced by Disney, from either their animated films, or content from their subsidiaries (Marvel, 20th Century, Lucasfilms, ABC etc.). In addition to Disney+, they also own two other streaming services, Hulu and ESPN+. Hulu was part of Disney's purchase of 21st Century Fox in 2019 (along with 20th Century, FX, et al), and now functions as a secondary source for Disney's content. ESPN+ is a sports streaming service that hosts ESPN's content, as well as content from UFC. All of these streaming services also have their own content, with Disney+ in particular seemingly being where Disney movies that otherwise wouldn't do very good in an actual movie theater are dumped.

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Launched in 2020, HBO Max hosts content from WarnerMedia's library, with sources being from their movie studios (Warner Bros, DC Films, New Line Cinema, etc.) or from others (CNN, Cartoon Network, Crunchyroll, etc.). I use HBO Max to bring up two other streaming services that WarnerMedia will likely be involved with in the future. One is CNN+, which I don't get the purpose of, since CNN content is already on HBO Max, unless if CNN is that strapped for cash. The other is Discovery+, which I'm seriously unable to determine the purpose of (aren't they suppose to primarily host documentaries, and not reality shows?), but will likely be under WarnerMedia's hands soon enough, given how they are purchasing out and merging with Discovery.

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Originally launched in 2014 as CBS All Access, but rebranded to Paramount+ in 2021 after the merger of CBS and Viacom, the streaming service hosts content that is owned by ViacomCBS, such as content from Paramount Pictures, CBS, BET, and what not. ViacomCBS also owns Pluto TV, a streaming service that sort of emulates that of a traditional linear television experience; it also hosts content from ViacomCBS's media library, and said content are contained within their own channels (e.g. there's a Survivor channel, Price is Right channel, etc.)

Other streaming services not listed include, but are not limited to: Amazon Prime Video (original content and licensed content), Peacock (original content and existing content from NBC and Universal etc), YouTube Premium (lol), and Apple TV+ (entirely consisting of original content, not much to say about that here)

Obviously, the streaming service bubble has gotten quite big, will it ever pop? Only time will tell.

Anyway, discuss streaming services and the content they host here, and be sure to air your grievances regarding these services as well!
 
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The biggest issue, besides the fact that you end up paying more for cutting the cord than you ever did with cable for the same package now, is the quality.

If you care about image quality it’s maddening. Many services “4k” streams have a lower bitrate than the average DVD from 1999.

Even their 1080p content looks like garbage.

At least raise your bitrate for what they charge.
 
Streaming services were almost on the verge of bankrupting the Hollywood movie theater industry, until the new Spider-Man movie came along and changed that completely.

Only reason streaming services are getting popular by the day is because the creators making entertainment for them are getting lazy and uncreative.

I don’t know why Disney+ or Paramount+ is still a thing. It’s already bad enough that Warner Bros. is getting HBO MAX more money towards them.
 
When you have a shitty Internet connection and the bandwidth is taken up by everyone in the house/area, the buffering sucks and takes you out of the immersion. Hence why physical media >>> streaming, especially for the behind-the-scenes stuff.
 
The biggest issue, besides the fact that you end up paying more for cutting the cord than you ever did with cable for the same package now, is the quality.

If you care about image quality it’s maddening. Many services “4k” streams have a lower bitrate than the average DVD from 1999.

Even their 1080p content looks like garbage.

At least raise your bitrate for what they charge.
I'm sure some users never got the full HD experience and don't know it. On a PC browser, Netflix and Disney+ (not sure about the other services) checks the PC specs and locks to 720p if the system doesn't match their content DRM requirements. Even with their HD guaranteed shit app or through a TV sometimes the quality fuzzes in and out on a whim. Real sad that people are watching classic movies and shows like that
 
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Still not subscribed to any, and I won't watch any free trial. That's how they make you hooked.
Fucking Apple pestering me with 3 months trial for Apple TV+.
 
the only one who still watches tv in the household is my mother. she has one of those tv boxes that gives her "all" the channels. the tv is going to be obsolete when all the bommers die since i doubt even Millennials and zoomers wont cash in on the streaming stuff since its so expensive.
 
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Still not subscribed to any, and I won't watch any free trial. That's how they make you hooked.
Fucking Apple pestering me with 3 months trial for Apple TV+.
You have Apple pestering you with that shit-ass subscription meanwhile my family keeps pressuring me to go to Netflix. I'm even seeing this shit with gamepasses. Why should I subscribe for something I don't own when I can buy a blu-ray (provided there is an actual retail distributor)/vidya CD/pirate? Also, eat shit Crunchyroll, I'm still pirating old shit.
 
I guess I'll give my thoughts on the original programming offered by each.

Netflix
The biggest and most popular of the bunch. First original that I liked was first season of Stranger Things. Thought it didn't need any more seasons, and season two was not very good. Haven't bothered to watch season 3. Netflix keeps claiming to be spending more and more money on shows, but everything looks over saturated and cheap (see The Witcher or the effects in The Irishman for example). The stuff that looks good I give credit to other companies who have had much more experience making movies and tv (Disney for the Marvel shows, and Jim Henson company for Dark Crystal). Tons of new shows out every month but most are crap and/or I'm not interested in watching them. The recent news of them losing subscribers has me hopeful at least something there will change and if not, go under.

Amazon Prime
Same problem with Netflix in that they have expensive budgets and cheap/over saturated shows. Probably even worse because this is run by one of the largest companies out there. I'm hoping that Lord of The Rings show fails, and causes them (and other streamers) to reconsider some strategies. Hopfully, they'll end up cancelling those Fallout and Mass Effect shows. Invincible was great though.

Apple
This one I've been wanting to keep my eye with how they were starting from scratch in the middle of the streaming boom. All original content with hardly any established franchises meant they had quite a hill to climb. Many people laughed at them thinking they'd be gone the same way Quibi, but I knew they at least had a chance since they had brand name recognition and no stupid gimmicks, unlike Quibi. They actually have decent looking shows and movies compared to the previous two which is why I think more and more people are going to start turning to them. I finally watched one of them in Severence, and I found it pretty good. They still have lots of crap as well but, I hope they maintain course and come up with some more good shows.

Disney+
With Disney's popularity, I knew they could release a pile of shit and people would still sub to their streaming service. Marvel and Star Wars are disasters, but loyal fanbases mean Disney will keep milking the cash cow. I hate that they keep going to the well of previously established charcaters and events for these series. The Mandalorian seemed to be a good direction at first, until they had to throw in Boba Fett and Ashoka for no reason, cause they are afraid of new ideas. I want to see new Marvel stuff as well. Not Wandavision, or Black Captain America. Moon Knight seems more what I want to see (Haven't watched yet). Overall, they need more original stuff, or expand on current universes, but that requires risk, which they are afraid of.

Paramount+
Looking at their current and planned slate just screams desperation. They want to be like Disney+, but Star Trek is their only brand where they can squeeze money out of a loyal fanbase. I find it hilarious they have to make new series for stuff like ICarly, The Italian Job, and Fatal Attraction as if they are the same recognizable brands and franchises as those Disney has. Only thing I might ever watch is a planned Knuckles series, if they are even around by then.

HBO Max and Peacock are not available in my country but their originals can be found elsewhere. Haven't seen anything from Peacock, but Bel-Air looks laughable. A lot of people seem to praise HBO Max's original content, but they seem to mostly like the regular HBO stuff like The White Lotus or Mare of Eastown that's now easier to watch through streaming. I don't count those cause they would have been made anyways. It also gives the impression that the Max Originals are lesser quality cause they aren't good enough for HBO. They are also trying to be like Disney+ with the DC stuff, but have even less clear direction than Marvel does now. Only thing I've really seen from them is Peacemaker, which was nothing special.

The overall state of things does not give an impression there is a "Golden Age" of streaming content. All the streamers are still in a "finding out" stage where not everyone is going to survive. We'll see how things change in a few years.
 
I dumped everything and just have YouTube TV now. The streaming services are worse than cable; at least with cable it's all in once place and you can search easily. The cable-like streaming services like YouTube TV and Directv Stream are pricey but it's just a better experience. If there's something I really want to watch on Netflix or one of its clones (which is practically never), I'll just pirate it.

I think most of these services are going to just lose tons of money because they're too splintered and nobody wants to pay all that money to have a hard time finding anything to watch. There's like one or two shows/movies a month that most people want to see anyway, the vast majority of each service is garbage. It worked when it was just Netflix because everything was in one central service and you could just watch whatever you were looking for. Now each media company got greedy and pulled their content off to make their own service, so instead of the entire industry benefitting by putting their content on Netflix, it's dying as each company is getting a smaller and smaller slice of the streaming pie.
 
Tubi and Roku are free (with minimal commercials) and have better shit on them for the most part, especially horror/action movies. Plus the new shit that comes out is much less in your face. They seem to do a better job of actually recommending you stuff you like, too. Tubi is freaking amazing for having horror films that were legit difficult to find in the 80s and 90s, and are unedited as far as i can tell (although a lot of them are pan & scan or with wonky aspect ratio).

I have Disney/Hulu because I have kids, my wife bought a package or something when it first came out for something ridiculous like $90 for 3 years, and when that runs out, we'll be getting rid of Disney. Hulu is about the only way to watch live sports, so I guess there's no way around that, without janky pirating.

Amazon Prime we have because it comes free since we do most of our buying shit via Amazon, but I barely bother even checking that any more.

I get Shudder for like 3 months at a time and let it go after catching up, mostly for Joe Bob.

Also, since EVERY service literally lies and obfuscates their "Just Added" tabs, use JustWatch app or .com to actually see what is added on a daily basis.
 
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Why can't all these services make proper alphabetical & genre & country of origin catalogues for shit? It's only the more niche ones that do it, like Crunchyroll (anime) and Viki (Asian dramas).
 
I hate Spotify so much it's unreal. I never use this niggercattle service except for the few occasions when musicians send me songs to learn with spotify links. And of course today I've got a whole ass playlist of songs to chart out before tomorrow and the piece of shit site is completely down. I hate how dependent everyone is on Spotify and I hate even more being dragged into it. Fuck Spotify and all other music streaming services for that matter.
 
I hate Spotify so much it's unreal. I never use this niggercattle service except for the few occasions when musicians send me songs to learn with spotify links. And of course today I've got a whole ass playlist of songs to chart out before tomorrow and the piece of shit site is completely down. I hate how dependent everyone is on Spotify and I hate even more being dragged into it. Fuck Spotify and all other music streaming services for that matter.
Somewhat related. i got Spotify lite to skip adds on my phone but a few weeks ago, Spotify updated their service and bricked the lite version. I dont wanna hear adds and im never gonna waste money on premium either. so fucking annoying.
 
we have amazon prime because we buy a lot of shit so it's in the mix, and the wife pays for... I think AMC+ or some few-bucks-a-month add-on that gets a bunch of horror type content
I occasionally use prime, like one time I had to lock my cat in my room because maintenance was coming through, he seems to like like having MST3k as background noise but I couldn't get a good connection to pluto on the tv, and didn't have anything handy to plug into the cytube channel, but amazon prime was able to play standalone episodes and automatically go to another one

she uses Pluto a lot for background noise Walking Dead, I'll occasionally use it for something I'll get a bug up my ass to watch, like I was on a Sailor Moon kick a week or two back and Pluto was a fine solution for "push button to make sailor moon happen" and not having to put any thought into what episodes to pick and then scrounge them up
mostly I use synchtubes like cytube for my streaming purposes
 
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