Business Tesla’s 2024 financial results are out—and they’re terrible - The maker of electric vehicles may have to invest in stocks of red ink, because 2024 results were even less impressive than the already-underwhelming 2023 numbers.

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Tesla released its financial results for 2024 on Wednesday afternoon, following the close of the markets. The maker of electric vehicles may have to invest in stocks of red ink, because 2024 results were even less impressive than the already-underwhelming 2023 numbers.

Q4, 2024​

During the final quarter of last year, Tesla saw its automotive revenues fall by 8 percent compared to the same three months of 2023, dropping to $19.8 billion. It more than doubled its energy and storage revenues, which grew by 113 percent compared to Q4 2023, but this amounts to just $3 billion and a small fraction of Tesla's overall business. Similarly, services posted a 31 percent growth during those three months, but again the actual contribution in dollar terms was just $2.8 billion.

Total revenue grew by 2 percent in Q4, but income fell by 23 percent, and its operating margin has dropped to just 6.2 percent—the lowest since Q1 2024. By contrast, the industry average operating margin for an automaker is around 10 percent. Net profits fell an astounding 71 percent to $2.3 billion.

The year as a whole​

For the whole of 2024, Tesla saw a 6 percent drop in automotive revenues, down to $77 billion. Energy generation and storage increased by 67 percent to a total of $10 billion. Services grew by 27 percent during the year, bringing in $10.5 billion in revenue. That means total revenue grew by 1 percent in 2024; over the same time period, Tesla's share price has increased by 103 percent.

But gross profits fell by 1 percent, with net profits falling by a huge 53 percent to $7.1 billion for the year, making this Tesla's worst year since 2021, when it made just $5.5 billion in profit. Free cash flow dropped 18 percent during the year, to $3.6 billion. Delving into the profit and loss statement, $2.8 billion of that profit came from selling regulatory credits to other automakers, not from selling cars or even supercharger access.

Tesla says that reduced average selling prices contributed to its lousy results, as well as an increase in operating expenses to fund sidelines in AI and robotics that generate nothing to the company's bottom line. These side ventures have goosed the company share price among investors who appear to believe CEO Elon Musk's claims that Tesla is no longer a car company.

For a not-car company, automotive sales brought in 77 percent of the company's revenue.

Interestingly, Tesla claims it believes that the Cybertruck—a niche model that only sells in small numbers in the US—will soon become eligible for a tax credit. This is despite Musk's public support for President Trump's plan to eradicate the $7,500 clean vehicle tax credit as soon as possible, which Musk says will harm other automakers more than his own.

For 2025, Tesla has made some very bold predictions. Energy storage revenues will "grow by at least 50 percent year-over-year," it claims. AI and software will generate profits, it claims. And stretching credulity, the company says it will grow automotive sales by "more than 60 percent" this year, despite a model lineup that remains outdated and eclipsed in terms of features by rivals in China and even here in the US.

Investors appear to like what they saw, however—Tesla shares rose in post-market trading once the results became public.

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I never did get why Tesla was such a high value stock, they don't really make a tonne of profit but their stock kept going up and up and up.

I think all EV makers are in for a world of hurt now that the craziness of the Biden era is fading. No more huge government subsides, no more threats of outlawing the competition and no more contracts for government agencies.

Really the whole EV thing was 100% propped up by left leaning government who want to do...something. I will spare everyone more of my tinfoil hat conspiracies...this time.
 
I mean the stock bros seem willing to keep betting on autistic Tony Stark to keep everything going smooth despite the fact that Tesla really seems fully of bad design, I’m not sure I can trust journalists with an agenda when they predict doom in the future for the richest lolcow in the world.
 
I mean the stock bros seem willing to keep betting on autistic Tony Stark to keep everything going smooth despite the fact that Tesla really seems fully of bad design, I’m not sure I can trust journalists with an agenda when they predict doom in the future for the richest lolcow in the world.
Maybe he has a cult of personality and they want to believe the hype oh so bad. Removing EV tax breaks that incentivizes people to buy them while thinking he's not going to get touched by it, the man is either delusional or stupid, but is likely probably both,

Charging stations are far fewer in number then gas stations, most people are going to pick convenience over an ugly douche-mobile vehicle that is widely shown through enough Youtube videos as flammable deathtraps.
 
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Charging stations are far fewer in number then gas stations, most people are going to pick convenience
If you drive by a super charger you can find people waiting in a parking lot for a charger to open.

I have gotten my weekly grocery purchase, then had lunch next door and still left before a Tesla driver got a spot
 
I never did get why Tesla was such a high value stock, they don't really make a tonne of profit but their stock kept going up and up and up.
FOMO amongst the technophiles

Pure and simple.

Everyone thought EVs were gonna take off just like NFTs, and crypto..... and they weren't gonna get left behind.
 
I'm deeply suspicious of this article, mainly because it's Tesla figures in a bubble: I can well believe that in world where people can't afford fucking eggs, they're less keen to buy a new car, electric or not.

How have Ford and GM done? How are Tesla stacking up next to Polestar and Rivian? I would have thought these would be obvious questions, even for a journo, but all we have is "Twitter man bad".
 
I'm deeply suspicious of this article, mainly because it's Tesla figures in a bubble: I can well believe that in world where people can't afford fucking eggs, they're less keen to buy a new car, electric or not.

How have Ford and GM done? How are Tesla stacking up next to Polestar and Rivian? I would have thought these would be obvious questions, even for a journo, but all we have is "Twitter man bad".

What I want to know is how badly Chinese EVs companies are doing, since there have been some company collapses already (Jiyue, WM Motor, HiPhi), some that are barely holding on (Neta), and even some of the bigger names (NIO, Xpeng) are still losing money.
 
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I'm deeply suspicious of this article, mainly because it's Tesla figures in a bubble: I can well believe that in world where people can't afford fucking eggs, they're less keen to buy a new car, electric or not.

How have Ford and GM done? How are Tesla stacking up next to Polestar and Rivian? I would have thought these would be obvious questions, even for a journo, but all we have is "Twitter man bad".
The article is from Arstechnica, whose readerbase tends to skew on the very liberal/libtard side. You'll see many commenters who froth and rage about Musk and Trump in a concerted TDS/EDS fury. I'd have to agree that the article has a heavy bias and is not properly reporting anything.
 
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