The Assassin's Creed Thread - moto bene on my pene

[Scarlett Johansson]

Ubisoft and their shitty business practices lol
So you play as the arab dude in the upcoming game and then there's the slant eyed ninja in Red and the other one looks like witch trials?

Tbh I was kinda hoping Melanie would turn out to be a major villain but alas.

Also I started Unity. It was on sale. It honestly is not that bad tbh. I'm not pleased about Marie Antoinette being non-existant but ehh. Game doesn't seem bad yet.

I'm going to probably get shit but imo Syndicate is extremely underrated and I love the Frye twins. (The mission in the hospital le epic)

Is Origins good? I am told it's the best of the current three so far.

 

[Poison Apple]

Best game is Black Flag without a doubt.

Most of the new games look better than they play sadly, and even then their settings are not that great or historically accurate.

 

[ce gars]

The setting of Origins is great, but they don't really do anything with it. Going hard into the RPG mechanics also really hurts it: feels less like I'm playing an assassin and more like I'm playing some warrior who moonlights as one. The main character is also screwed over in the writing and doesn't even get an ending.

I enjoy Syndicate, but I also blame it for where the series went after because of the soft-leveling system it introduced. At least it gave us a crouch button lmao.

 

[Super Hans]

Assassin's Creed is one of those franchises that I hate that I like. Each entry always showed the worst of video games, even from 1 where the hundreds of randomly placed flags around the world only had an Cheevo has a reward, except on PS3 because Sony didn't have trophies yet, and you got literally nothing. And it only had the flags because the game could be beaten in a long afternoon because 90% of the missions were on the level of sitting on a fucking bench. The ongoing modern day story has been a train crash somehow plowing on since Brotherhood or Revelations, which can never move forward because Ubisoft has a habit of putting the Real Ending behind DLC or bullshit comic book. Even the UX designer should be blacklisted, because for some reason having a faux mouse cursor while using a controller is necessary, maybe because the retard Inventory Design Manager thinks submenus should have submenus and everything is important as everything else so nothing gets listing priority and is pain in the ass to navigate with a dpad.

But I'm the kind of history fan who's too dumb to not know what's true or made up bullshit, so I really like that aspect. It's a bad habit of mine to get an entry once it hits $30.

 

[Spit bucket]

Looks like we finally don the white robes again bois.

 

[White Devil]

The series has been in freefall since at least AC3. Black Flag was a temporary respite but also the last grasp I feel. I honestly don't consider Origins, Odyssey, or Valhalla AC games, just open world RPGs with way too much shit to do.

I doubt I'm going to check out any of the newer ones, I still haven't finished Odyssey despite almost 50 hours into it. I miss the days of AC being a linear 25 hour or so romp with some cool history behind it.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Been replaying the Ezio games with mods and shit and having a blast.
Ass Creed is the epitome of wasted potential and corporate zombification tho.

 

[Dr. Pasquale]

The series has been in freefall since at least AC3.

This.

AC3 was the first nail in the coffin. That game fucking sucked ass. Combat was so easy it was sleep inducing. It had some of the worst main missions and the side content was just awful. It really should've been the Haytham game because Connor is devoid of any sort of personality besides his daddy issues.

IMO Unity was the last good AC game, despite the fact that it was a mess at release. They should've given Arno his own "Ezio Trilogy", but alas, we got kangs instead.

 

[White Devil]

This.

AC3 was the first nail in the coffin. That game fucking sucked ass. Combat was so easy it was sleep inducing. It had some of the worst main missions and the side content was just awful. It really should've been the Haytham game because Connor is devoid of any sort of personality besides his daddy issues.

IMO Unity was the last good AC game, despite the fact that it was a mess at release. They should've given Arno his own "Ezio Trilogy", but alas, we got kangs instead.

I remember when AC3 came out and people played it. Everyone universally fucking hated Connor. Imagine the shit if it came out today, you'd be racist for hating him because he's a bad character devoid of any kind of personality or interesting internal conflicts simply because he's Indian. The other side would also shit all over the idea of a white man being his father.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

This.

AC3 was the first nail in the coffin. That game fucking sucked ass. Combat was so easy it was sleep inducing. It had some of the worst main missions and the side content was just awful. It really should've been the Haytham game because Connor is devoid of any sort of personality besides his daddy issues.

Hold on right there.
I shall defend AC3 as a good and misunderstood game.
And even if AC3 sucked as bad as you say, Black Flag and Rogue were still a kick up for the series in quality.

Personally I think it was Syndicate and Origins trying to be RPGs, especially Origins with Ubisoft ripping off Witcher 3's gameplay, including all its flaws, but not including it's amazing story and side quests.

 

[White Devil]

Rogue and BF can be good while AC3 sucked. It had a couple good concepts and the kill animations were brutal. Unfortunately, that's not enough to make it a good game. It was such a wasted setting.

 

[Kramer on the phone]

Been replaying the Ezio games with mods and shit and having a blast.
Ass Creed is the epitome of wasted potential and corporate zombification tho.

what mods are there? i remember checking 5 years ago and just in general mods for pre-origins AC games were extremely lacking.

Hold on right there.
I shall defend AC3 as a good and misunderstood game.
And even if AC3 sucked as bad as you say, Black Flag and Rogue were still a kick up for the series in quality.

Personally I think it was Syndicate and Origins trying to be RPGs, especially Origins with Ubisoft ripping off Witcher 3's gameplay, including all its flaws, but not including it's amazing story and side quests.

AC3 had an amazing plot but the open world sucked, the wilderness wasn't as interesting as anyone expected, as people said combat was piss easy, the cities were so open and sparse they were completely shit for actually stealthing. so much of the map is open space its insane especially for a stealth game.

my biggest gripe plot wise is haytham abandoning his son, it doesn't even make sense considering he openly mocked the racists when he was allied with connors mom and didn't believe in the segregation going on in the colonies. it would have been much better if connor had haytham mostly in his life but then was presumed dead and was raised by the black guy after the fire, a literal reverse of what happened with haytham, plus the idea that connor lost contact with almost entirely with everyone to join the assassins would make sense, the black guy was a real piece of shit and something like that especially on a teen would make him very easy to hate. it also seems like connor was forced to abandon his whole tribe for over a decade because of the creed anyways.

it would be especially cruel considering if you frame it right it would have been a comedy of errors, charles lee was just doing his civilian job and wouldn't have known his other boss's family would have been caught in the crossfire, haytham assumes he loses his own son and a crisis of faith could be used to explain how draconian parliament was after the 7 years war.

honestly though the entire concept of an AC game in such a rural area was absurd, the war itself didn't lend itself to assassinations, and the set piece of the death in the battle, while cool, was silly in hindsight.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

what mods are there? i remember checking 5 years ago and just in general mods for pre-origins AC games were extremely lacking.

On the Nexus Mobs, you can find different outfits, the hood down, mostly just graphical stuff.

AC3 had an amazing plot but the open world sucked, the wilderness wasn't as interesting as anyone expected, as people said combat was piss easy, the cities were so open and sparse they were completely shit for actually stealthing. so much of the map is open space its insane especially for a stealth game.

The cities kinda sucked, but I personally liked the Tarzan shit and saying that AssCreed has easy combat applies to all games. They're all piss easy.

my biggest gripe plot wise is haytham abandoning his son, it doesn't even make sense considering he openly mocked the racists when he was allied with connors mom and didn't believe in the segregation going on in the colonies.

I take it Haytham didn't know he had a son until much later, possibly even after the mom died. Either way, Haytham didn't live an easy life, and he was kind of an asshole, not a great father figure.

it would have been much better if connor had haytham mostly in his life but then was presumed dead and was raised by the black guy after the fire, a literal reverse of what happened with haytham, plus the idea that connor lost contact with almost entirely with everyone to join the assassins would make sense, the black guy was a real piece of shit and something like that especially on a teen would make him very easy to hate. it also seems like connor was forced to abandon his whole tribe for over a decade because of the creed anyways.

Black guys living way back then saw some real shit to make them assholes. In Achile's case, he roayly fucked up, lost his entire family to a plague and risked what little he still had to train some Mauglie motherfucker to take on the Templars at their peak strenght. Black guy was freaking the fuck out and for good reason.

honestly though the entire concept of an AC game in such a rural area was absurd, the war itself didn't lend itself to assassinations, and the set piece of the death in the battle, while cool, was silly in hindsight.

But at least there were ships.

 

[Mega Black]

feels less like I'm playing an assassin and more like I'm playing some warrior who moonlights as one. The main character is also screwed over in the writing and doesn't even get an ending.

To be fair that's true for literally every game. For a series with Assassin in the title they've never done a great job at stealth. Fighting is priority one in every game.

 

[ce gars]

To be fair that's true for literally every game. For a series with Assassin in the title they've never done a great job at stealth. Fighting is priority one in every game.

The social stealth was at least something they tried to maintain right up until Black Flag. 3 if I wanted to be less charitable, but everything afterwards was pushing even harder towards combat, in a series where counter-kills already made the combat braindead. Then they brought in the RPG stuff and I honestly just tuned out. Odyssey looks like a fun theme park ride, but I can't bring myself to play it.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

The other side would also shit all over the idea of a white man being his father.

Which side and why?

White father-Indian mother mestizos were extremely common.

I thought it was stupid how in AC Origins you could see the Great Pyramids from Alexandria because the draw distance was so high. It's like being in a little toy version of Egypt. Older agmes like San Andreas had way smaller maps and still managed to feel natural with low draw distance.

 

[White Devil]

Which side and why?

White father-Indian mother mestizos were extremely common.

Because history is rayciss and muh colonizer.

 

[The Last Stand]

Whose brilliant idea was it to have an Assassin's Creed game as a VIKING? First thing I think of with stealth are bulking, pillaging, burly men with anger issues.

Valhalla felt the most out of place of an Assassin's Creed game. It should've been a hack-and-slash game in its own right.

More filler than Origins or Odyssey, evidently.

 

[Snekposter]

But I'm the kind of history fan who's too dumb to not know what's true or made up bullshit, so I really like that aspect. It's a bad habit of mine to get an entry once it hits $30.

As a history fag, the Egypt that was presented in Origins is beyond fucking atrocious. For starters, the game treats the Greeks as if they're new arrivals when they've been running the show for over two hundred years. Secondly, Ptolemaic Egypt wasn't just muh Greeks and muh Egyptians, but an actual honest to god multicultural society. You'd have Galatians rubbing shoulders with Jews in the marketplace, cursing each other's religion over drinks later, Thracians buying goods from Egyptian sellers and the two arguing in Greek about the price. Not that there weren't tensions, especially since the natives were the absolute lowest on the social and economic totem poles and the foreigners imported just as much to keep them in line as prevent the Seleucids from starting shit as Greeks liked to do, but Egypt was horrifically barren and sterile compared to what it actually was.

Whose brilliant idea was it to have an Assassin's Creed game as a VIKING? First thing I think of with stealth are bulking, pillaging, burly men with anger issues.

Valhalla felt the most out of place of an Assassin's Creed game. It should've been a hack-and-slash game in its own right.

Sadly, its actually a pretty damn good game about being a rampaging Viking if you ignore the filler Ubisoft loves cramming in. Its just that its a really, really shitty game about being a sneaky assassin.

Because history is rayciss and muh colonizer.

I think its because Connor passes as definitely some sort of Spanish... or maybe Italian.

Black guys living way back then saw some real shit to make them assholes. In Achile's case, he roayly fucked up, lost his entire family to a plague and risked what little he still had to train some Mauglie motherfucker to take on the Templars at their peak strenght. Black guy was freaking the fuck out and for good reason.

If you play Rogue it goes more into Achilles' backstory. He helped kill a shitton of people by overseeing the snatching of Precursor artifacts that were preventing earthquakes and then has a former student of his who turned to the Templars to stop Assassin recklessness practically beg his new boss to spare him out of mercy after his defeat. He wants nothing to do with anything Assassin-related for good reason.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

Sadly, its actually a pretty damn good game about being a rampaging Viking if you ignore the filler Ubisoft loves cramming in. Its just that its a really, really shitty game about being a sneaky assassin.

So it's another Black Flag where they should have just made it a Viking game instead of trying to cram Assassin Shit into it? Interesting.