The Elder Scrolls

[GratsTheat783]

Elderscrolls can always have racism thanks to having races that are all actually different, and they'll keep using the elves(+orcs) and beasts to deliver it. The issue is they'll just get more and more faggoty with THE MESSAGE when doing it. We'll end up getting actual troons too, and people will swallow it because magic obviously.

I remember Elder Scrolls Online had some gay stuff inserted into it. In the Summerset Isles, there's a quest that is just a stand in for trooning out. This girl wants you to get her brother out of a theatre group since he has started masquerading as a woman and they wouldn't let her in. He insists that he's just discovered who he really was. Regardless of what choice you make, the quest ends the same way, she tries to dis-spell whatever magic is upon him while he's on stage, but it doesn't work because "this is who he really is". She gets walked out and it ends with him sitting with her on the beach to explain everything. I think there's one off mentions of random characters being homosexual, I remember one Dark Elf NPC in a random quest who mentions having a wife and I think there's some other instances of unnamed or unmemorable side characters being homosexual.

There's some stuff that could be woke or may not be, like in Elswyr you can find letters from the parents of a high-elf who married a Kahjiit, condemning him for being a furry and cutting him off. High elves most likely would act in this way in lore. In the Black Marsh, there's a quest where you find a letter written by an Argonian who used to be a female but became male due to something with the hist. From what I'm aware, there are lizards that can change sex in real life, so it's possible in lore.

 

[KhorneFlakes]

In the Black Marsh, there's a quest where you find a letter written by an Argonian who used to be a female but became male due to something with the hist. From what I'm aware, there are lizards that can change sex in real life, so it's possible in lore.

the weird freaky lizard people can change gender? what did Bethesda mean by this?


sidenote; I think that in lore Vivec is meant to be a hermaphrodite, which makes sence given his whole split existence thing

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

I remember Elder Scrolls Online had some gay stuff inserted into it. In the Summerset Isles, there's a quest that is just a stand in for trooning out. This girl wants you to get her brother out of a theatre group since he has started masquerading as a woman and they wouldn't let her in. He insists that he's just discovered who he really was. Regardless of what choice you make, the quest ends the same way, she tries to dis-spell whatever magic is upon him while he's on stage, but it doesn't work because "this is who he really is". She gets walked out and it ends with him sitting with her on the beach to explain everything. I think there's one off mentions of random characters being homosexual, I remember one Dark Elf NPC in a random quest who mentions having a wife and I think there's some other instances of unnamed or unmemorable side characters being homosexual.

There's some stuff that could be woke or may not be, like in Elswyr you can find letters from the parents of a high-elf who married a Kahjiit, condemning him for being a furry and cutting him off. High elves most likely would act in this way in lore. In the Black Marsh, there's a quest where you find a letter written by an Argonian who used to be a female but became male due to something with the hist. From what I'm aware, there are lizards that can change sex in real life, so it's possible in lore.

Not only does ESO have tranny shit but the mod "Interesting NPCs" also has a quest to help someone transition and the tranny is voice acted by MxR's wife/the VA for Recorder. The Interesting NPCs mod author works for Bethesda and is responsible for the cringey dialogue in Starfield. I can 100% guarantee there will be a tranny quest in TES:VI.

 

[GratsTheat783]

the weird freaky lizard people can change gender? what did Bethesda mean by this?

Argonians are my favourite race personally. I hope that they return to the more monstrous looking Argonians from Morrowind.

Not only does ESO have tranny shit but the mod "Interesting NPCs" also has a quest to help someone transition and the tranny is voice acted by MxR's wife/the VA for Recorder. The Interesting NPCs mod author works for Bethesda and is responsible for the cringey dialogue in Starfield. I can 100% guarantee there will be a tranny quest in TES:VI.

I've not heard of that mod. It's such a boring sounding name that I would probably skim over it. Is it good overall or is it full of trannies?

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

I've not heard of that mod. It's such a boring sounding name that I would probably skim over it. Is it good overall or is it full of trannies?

It adds 80+ NPCS, many only exist to spew their life stories at you for twenty minutes. One followers implies he fucks animals and another NPC is fucking his daughter because she looks like her mom. It's not worth the ESP slot.

 

[foreman 89]

Not only does ESO have tranny shit but the mod "Interesting NPCs" also has a quest to help someone transition and the tranny is voice acted by MxR's wife/the VA for Recorder. The Interesting NPCs mod author works for Bethesda and is responsible for the cringey dialogue in Starfield. I can 100% guarantee there will be a tranny quest in TES:VI.

Interesting NPCs for Skyrim?

 

[Tri-Tachyon'sClown]

We'll end up getting actual troons too, and people will swallow it because magic obviously.

I would not be surprised if they just go the "polymorph" spell/potion route, even if there are examples already in the lore such as Argonians and that one ESO quest which is exactly that. But troons surprisingly hate that shit and want it to be more important than a one off spell, because it trivializes "their struggle" and reminds them that they'll never be what they want to be in real life. I think one of those DnD modules had something like that. "We have potions that can make you permanently turn into the opposite gender and it's normal but we're still going to make it a big deal" or something along those lines. What makes it even more retarded is that if you identity as a man or woman, just...play them? Reminds me of that pronouns mod. Further proves it's nothing more than an ideology.

Not only does ESO have tranny shit but the mod "Interesting NPCs" also has a quest to help someone transition and the tranny is voice acted by MxR's wife/the VA for Recorder. The Interesting NPCs mod author works for Bethesda and is responsible for the cringey dialogue in Starfield. I can 100% guarantee there will be a tranny quest in TES:VI.

Holy shit I did not know all that and I wish I never did. Explains a lot though.

I'd like to play it but the idea of a game so big it would take multiple IRL days to get from one side to another is a little daunting.

Nah it ain't that bad, well if you're not doing it manually like a maniac. Fast travel is a thing, and it actually costs gold if you want to have a relatively safe travel time as you stop by inns. You aren't missing much by doing so.

 

[dick brain]

I would not be surprised if they just go the "polymorph" spell/potion route, even if there are examples already in the lore such as Argonians and that one ESO quest which is exactly that. But troons surprisingly hate that shit and want it to be more important than a one off spell, because it trivializes "their struggle" and reminds them that they'll never be what they want to be in real life. I think one of those DnD modules had something like that. "We have potions that can make you permanently turn into the opposite gender and it's normal but we're still going to make it a big deal" or something along those lines. What makes it even more retarded is that if you identity as a man or woman, just...play them? Reminds me of that pronouns mod. Further proves it's nothing more than an ideology.
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Holy shit I did not know all that and I wish I never did. Explains a lot though.

The irony being that "just keep buying and drinking this potion every day for the rest of your life" is pretty much the reality of transitioning.

Also polymorph is pretty generous, disguise self would be more accurate.

 

[Neo-Holstien]

A lot of why they put the tranny shit in Morrowind and the Sommerset is because they are A, the two most Reactionary societies, and B they tend to get the best female face lifts and overhalls, becoming "Alice's" perfect bouncy waifu. Redguards in Morrowind had lower intellegance, willpower, and personality, as well as being classified as a beast race. I can not see TESVI even allowing the minor racist portrayal of Orcs in Skyrim were they have elements that people would like, and elements that kind of explain why the Bretons, Redguards, and Dunmer loathe them. They are going to up the Altmer hate, with them being a thinnly veiled allegory for what Shenigra fantasizing about doing to wyt pypo. Thanks Todd, we could have never have had this future without you.
(I like to add Images to my post, so I posted this ScreenCap that went hard)

In regards to Trannies, I imagine at least one side quest (I do not think any of the three-five factions will have anybody other than a decade plus at the company designer design the faction quest, calling it now, Emil Pagliaro, Mark Nelson, and Ashley Chang) will be made by one (who will obviously have their hands in making a few other side quest) about some tranny and you know they are going to do a puuner, I can not tell you why it will be a FTM, but I have a hunch it will be.
(I am Madura Saren, I slew my evil C*nservative Redoran father for dead naming me)

Another problem as it seems, is that the machine is just to large, to many people with an HR Cheka that breathes down any talented (meaning hetrosexual white/chink males), and delibrately putting Pajeet and Nigger voices in front, Expect more Velma and Fallout show level writing in the future as Ruhindabar flexes his literary muscles with the help of Tyrice Lafleur. Vae Victvs, woe to the Morroboomers.

 

[Rick The Stick]

I can not tell you why it will be a FTM

I can. It's because it's no secret that pooners are given more leeway with even some of the most anti troon people around. Just look at the pooner thread and see all the retards lamenting the imaginary, wholesome, tomboi they totally lost who was groomed and abused instead of just being a mentally ill degenerate like the men are. It'll be far easier to introduce a pooner than Alice. Kinda like Dragon Age Inquisition's Krem.

It's like how they got people to mostly accept faggots in Skyrim by way of marriage being a completely meaningless feature that you have to be actively role-playing to engage with anyway.

 

[std::string]

Nah it ain't that bad, well if you're not doing it manually like a maniac. Fast travel is a thing, and it actually costs gold if you want to have a relatively safe travel time as you stop by inns. You aren't missing much by doing so.

There are mods for Daggerfall Unity that disable fast travel and add roads and signs and time compression so you don't have to sit there watching your horsey gallop for hours.

I guess I could kinda see the appeal because going from Daggerfall to Shedungeon would be a whole-ass adventure on its own.

 

[Snekposter]

This was the real reason they removed attributes. Because you can't have Redguards having the lowest intelligence.

What, not even if they get to run faster than everyone else as compensation?

(Holy shit were the Skyrim racial boons based in their own way. Redguards ran fast and Imperials always managed to find a few extra Septims whenever they rummaged around for loot.)

 

[Troonos]

What, not even if they get to run faster than everyone else as compensation?

(Holy shit were the Skyrim racial boons based in their own way. Redguards ran fast and Imperials always managed to find a few extra Septims whenever they rummaged around for loot.)

The Redguard are Skyrim's racial 'boons.

 

[Microplastics In My Blood]

Speaking of races and racism (and risking necroing @xXx: State of the Union 's post) I think the point of the grey quarter goes over the head of most of the casual player base. Most players take this as a sign of how super duper racist the Stormcloaks are (it is to some degree) but I think it's meant to be a poetic irony.

The fact that they are allowed to live in Windhelm is far kinder than anything they would ever do for the Nords. Do you think that the Dunmer from TES: III would ever give a section of one of their major cities to Nord Refugees? They would probably rather commit mass suicide

You have the Dunmer the most xenophobic and racist culture in Tamriel at the complete mercy of their historic enemies due to them being forced to flee an event caused by their worship of false gods and revenge attacks from the Argonians that they enslaved for thousands of years.
When you start to listen to the dialogue the Dunmer of Windhelm are not complete saints:

Spoiler: AUTISM

• Brunwulf: "It's not that simple. Ulfric wants a Skyrim for the Nords. He doesn't trust what he calls outsiders." Hmmm, that sounds familiar.
• Niryane (High Elf) It was difficult at first. The Nords of this city are, at best, suspicious of outsiders. But in time, I made the right friends and proved myself useful enough that they don't give me trouble anymore. The dark elves are too proud and naive to understand the way things truly are, and so they continue to dwell in that slum." While she does have criminal connections most are unaware of this. She is a High Elf too and a lot of the Stormcloaks are Ex-Legionaries who last fought against the Altmer so they would have more reason to resent Altmer than Dunmer. Along with her, there is a total of FOUR Altmer just living normal lives in Windhelm
• Faryl Atheron (a Dunmer farm hand working for a Nord) "Farm work is hard work. It's good to relax when I can, but I still have to listen to my brothers harping about "injustices." - "Of course working for Bolfrida isn't my first choice. But what else can a Dunmer do out here?" - "My sister and I both work for the Nords. Our brother is ashamed of us, but at least we can afford to eat." This shows that even though they are in poverty, many of the Dunmer flat-out refuse to work for Nords. Other Dunmer have jobs such as a deckhand and as a nanny/
• Supporting the point above: Ambarys: "Don't you ever find it demeaning, working for that Nord family?" - Suvaris: "Look, Ambarys, I just came here for a drink. I don't need any trouble." - Ambarys: "Fine, then. I guess some Dunmer are content to be their pets."
  Ambarys: "What's new with the Cruel-Seas, Suvaris? Have they given you one of those helmets with the horns on them yet?" - Suvaris: "What do you want from me? I work for them ok? We're not friends. They pay me, and I get the job done. That's it." - Ambarys: "Touchy. Maybe some Dunmer lives in you yet."
• Belyn (a Dunmer Farmer owner): "The best way for us to win the Nords' respect is through hard work." -"Too many dark elves in Windhelm complain about the way we're treated. What good does complaining do?" This Dunmer owns a farm and despite living in "Racism HQ". He seems to care about his people but employs a Nord, suggesting that no Dunmer wants to work for him.
• Suvaris (A dock supervisor): Calls the Argonians lazy both verbally and in writing. Perhaps the Dunmer are also guilty of a little racism.
• Suvaris: "But we haven't taken a side because it's not our fight." People throughout history have fought for their adoptive nation. Just from the American Civil War, I can think of the Irish and Italian brigades from both sides of the war.
• On top of that many Dunmer will state that they wish that the Stormcloaks would lose and celebrate Ulfric's death/defeat.

Overall, Yes a lot of Nords are racist. Yes, Ulfric is a dick but the Dark Elves have their own issues. They are too proud to work for Nords and refuse to integrate with them in the slightest. They actively mock those who even are employed by nords as being race traitors. They actively hope for their downfall in a war that the people of Windhelm have lost loved ones in. The war they hope they lose is a war to preserve Nord culture from the Empire (something they should relate to.) They refuse to assist in said war. They instead would rather stew in bitterness and resentment at the people who took them in. Moreover, there are plenty of examples of Nords in Windhelm working with other races that the nords are polite and friendly to.

It's actually a quite an interesting representation of refugees and host nations and would probably not occur in the current year. It's not just "Big mean racists bad, little refugees good."

P.S. I will take the autism stickers.

 

[Tri-Tachyon'sClown]

*Snip*

Excellent write-up. This flies over so many people's heads, hell even I missed a few things that you wrote down (mainly because I haven't touched Skyrim in ages) so well done. Also, ain't that something, the darker race is given space by the supposed racist whiter race but still refuse to work for them or repay them in any capacity, any of the darker race that does work for the whiter is ostracized, and thus the whiter race dislikes the freeloaders who hate them, yet the freeloaders complain about how much they're hated "just because they're different." That's hilariously familiar eh? On topic though, people...don't seem to know or even understand that the Dunmer aren't exactly nice people culturally at any point in time. They worship either Daedric Princes such as the Daedra Prince of Cruelty and Torture and the Daedric Prince of Murder, Lies, Deception, Sex and secrets, or mortal-turned-Gods that betrayed and murdered two of their closest friends for power (even eachother in the case of Almalexia killing Sotha Sil, among other wild shit they got up to), that's not even mentioning their slavery shinanigans and the shit the houses got up to. Not to say every Dunmer is like that, but this "high and mighty" attitude combined with their history is enough to make anyone be weary of them, yet normies just see it as a black and white case with no nuonce.

 

[Microplastics In My Blood]

Excellent write-up. This flies over so many people's heads, hell even I missed a few things that you wrote down (mainly because I haven't touched Skyrim in ages) so well done. Also, ain't that something, the darker race is given space by the supposed racist whiter race but still refuse to work for them or repay them in any capacity, any of the darker race that does work for the whiter is ostracized, and thus the whiter race dislikes the freeloaders who hate them, yet the freeloaders complain about how much they're hated "just because they're different." That's hilariously familiar eh? On topic though, people...don't seem to know or even understand that the Dunmer aren't exactly nice people culturally at any point in time. They worship either Daedric Princes such as the Daedra Prince of Cruelty and Torture and the Daedric Prince of Murder, Lies, Deception, Sex and secrets, or mortal-turned-Gods that betrayed and murdered two of their closest friends for power (even eachother in the case of Almalexia killing Sotha Sil, among other wild shit they got up to), that's not even mentioning their slavery shinanigans and the shit the houses got up to. Not to say every Dunmer is like that, but this "high and mighty" attitude combined with their history is enough to make anyone be weary of them, yet normies just see it as a black and white case with no nuonce.

Yea to me the Grey Quater was meant to evoke a sense of a proud people brought low through tragedy that they contributed to. I feel like the player is meant to raise an eyebrow the moment they hear "The Dark Elves are complaining about racism". This is a people that argued that slavery was a fundamental cornerstone and right of their culture and who would spit on any Outlander breathing the same air as them and now that they have hit hard times they are complaining "the Nords aren't very nice to us and ignore our plights"

95% of them would happily watch beastfolk being whipped on their salt rice plantation from their villa if they had the chance.

 

[dick brain]

The most unrealistic part of Skyrim's portrayal of refugees in Windhelm is that they're not the ones commiting the murders.

 

[Troonos]

Did the Dwemer acknowledge that they were elves, or did they consider themselves something entirely different as dwarves in other fantasy settings usually don't get along with elves?

 

[God of Nothing]

Did the Dwemer acknowledge that they were elves, or did they consider themselves something entirely different as dwarves in other fantasy settings usually don't get along with elves?

They were elves. Literally in the name Dwe-Mer.

 

[Lone Wandering Courier]

Excellent write-up. This flies over so many people's heads,

It's probably because they never played morrowind.