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So since Fallout Frontier turned out to be such a shitshow and Kiwis have had quite a field day this week from modding drama and lolcows, I decided to do some digging on the Beyond Skyrim modding team.

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For those who don't know what Beyond Skyrim is, it is a "massive" scale Skyrim mod project that aims to recreate the whole world of Tamriel for TESV: Skyrim and the autists working on it have been at it for over 10 years, due to many believing it was due to a lot of hard work and attention to detail, but in actuality half of the delays are more of a result of aimless autists unable to stay focused and constantly having to redo things from scratch due to nitpicking or artsy and woke directors with too much creative freedom and whatnot who want the project to be more like their visions or fetishes.

Anyway, a lot of drama got exposed on /v/ which ended with the BS member who leaked the whole mess getting banned from their Discord for "bigotry". The banned modder shared info, screencaps, and private details about the community's tism, and after getting banned he even leaked all of BS's assets (models and textures) along with the SE-Cyrodiil esp, which is still missing some things but has a fully explorable Cyrodiil with NPCs and creatures.

From what I've learned, a lot of furries, trannies and niche fetishists are on the BS team but were mainly confined to the Black Marsh and Morrowind projects where they're putting a strong focus on genderfluid lizards and unconventional sexual situations (sounds like Frontier already), however recent development on the Discord seems to be encouraging them to work elsewhere to 'spite the bigots' which will no doubt set this mod back by even more years. He also said that one of the directors of the project and several others are groomers who've been seducing and/or troonifying younger members. This may have been going on in the team for years but it seems it only got worse after Bruma, their first release back in 2017 made them popular, attracting many new recruits, most of which were opportunists, manipulators and a suspiciously large amount of trannies. Some older users have also been driven out of the project by the drama going on within the community, which involves woketards getting angry at senior members after they tried to calm their tits. Elsewhere in other parts of the project like Atmora (which is not as plagued as the rest of the BS project since they joined late) still has a degree of gossip hounds and infighting with everyone to knock their own directors down a peg.

The most notable weirdo of the team is Rabaedo, the creative director for the Morrowind project who encourages trans-themed quests involving pissing off bigoted dark elves with trans rights paintings or even converting some to the gay/tranny side.
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Here are some of the /v/ threads I could find that catalogued the shitshow and the BS discord screencaps along with the leaks:

/v/ - Video Games » Thread #542297928

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/v/ - Video Games » Thread #542337421

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/v/ - Video Games » Thread #542358401

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/v/ - Video Games » Thread #494498686

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/vg/ - Video Game Generals » Thread #322893990

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The jannies on /v/ have been purging most threads discussing it and the BS team have apparently been trying to send 4chan a DMCA over the leaks.
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The Skyrim Special Edition version of the Cyrodiil mod:
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The first's LOD files:
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The meshes and textures used for all of the projects so far:
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Also more esps of the projects like Illiac Bay and Elsweyr were also leaked but their download links no longer work.

Some notable Discord screencaps.
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Also some of the "Easter Eggs" in the game are "trans and gay rights" messages hidden about, along with other weird messages and lame outdated memes that break the fourth wall.
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I'll try and post more threads and Discord screencaps as I find them.

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BS are a bunch of useless incapable tards. Other people made mods for entire provinces as a single person and released them on the Nexus, but BS had them taken down or harassed the creators until they took them down as if they had a monopoly on other provinces mods. They are so useless BS won't be released until TES6 is at which point no one will care anymore.
 
The lesson to be learned; when starting a mod, ensure that it isn’t community based, have an appointed head and agreed on vision, assemble a team of trusted committers, remove all politics and sexual fetishism, and actually work on the mod.
 
Skyrim mod authors are already huge crybaby bitches in general, add idpol bullshit into the equation and it's no wonder shit like this happens.
What all these big mod projects need is capable tard wranglers.
 
Anyone that can wrangle tards probably has a real job doing it.

Remember Falskar? One dude got a whole original continent made in like a year or two and got a job in the industry. So the fact all an entire team managed was Bruma in a decade means of course they're made up of untalented tron allies.
 
Wawalian said:
BS are a bunch of useless incapable tards. Other people made mods for entire provinces as a single person and released them on the Nexus, but BS had them taken down or harassed the creators until they took them down as if they had a monopoly on other provinces mods. They are so useless BS won't be released until TES6 is at which point no one will care anymore.
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And the only way to be able to create content without having BS breathing down their necks was to join their retarded team with the promises of "more resources" and "more creatives to help with their project". And when any new blood joined, they got little to no help in finishing their own projects and were instead sent to work exclusively on some other jackass's faggy project because BS can't even make decent normalmaps by themselves while new recruits have little to no freedom on what they could do.

Its a fucking ego-fueled scam and all they have to show for it after 10 years is one small area of a province and a mess that will never be finished because of tards being wrangled only by other tards with too much "creativity" on their hands who are unwilling to allow the use of freely available resources out of some sort of weird sense of pride. Meanwhile other big scale world mods got made in less than 3 or 2 years, and a few even in 1 year, by people with way less original resources and help than BS did.
www.nexusmods.com

Falskaar

A DLC sized new lands mod that adds 20+ hours of fully voiced lore friendly (But not canon) quests, dungeons, and more.
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Admiral Mantoid said:
And the only way to be able to create content without having BS breathing down their necks was to be forced to join their retarded team with the promises of "more resources" and "more creatives to help with their project". And when any new blood joined, they got little to no help in finishing their own projects and were instead sent to work exclusively on some other jackass's faggy project because BS can't even make decent normalmaps by themselves while new recruits have little to no freedom on what they could do.
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I need to ask, why do they obey these orders? Why don't they say "Fuck you guys!", block their accounts, and do their own thing?
 
Admiral -> Yup, and I've got all of these mods they forced the creators to take down in my NMM folder, Blackmarsh, Summerset, Vvardenfell, etc... so many of them for OG Skyrim and Special Edition. I really want to upload them somewhere for anyone to download but then I'm sure that BS have my links taken down too since they seem to be spending more time skimming the internet to do just that than actually working on their own mod, unless someone can suggest a file hosting service with at least 20Go of space that doesn't actually care about strikes.
 
Mnutu said:
The lesson to be learned; when starting a mod, ensure that it isn’t community based, have an appointed head and agreed on vision, assemble a team of trusted committers, remove all politics and sexual fetishism, and actually work on the mod.
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This is the exact opposite impression I got from these communities. The latest trend in r/skyrimmods is this 'Cathedral vs Parlor' mentality they keep harping on about to the point where it feels like an actual religion with people zealously in favour of community based mods. It needs to be emphasised how much they spout the virtues of making mods (not truly) open source. They never discuss any of the downsides and yet there's petty drama over it every now and then.

Admiral Mantoid said:
From what I've learned, a lot of furries, trannies and niche fetishists are on the BS team
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This is really disheartening to hear. PL I'm interested in working with visual assets professionally. Volunteering for projects such as BS sounded like a good idea for someone self-taught to build a portfolio and I wasn't cynical enough to think it was already infested with current year discord trannies. With two X chromosomes I want no part of that creepy shit and it's dawning on me that anything technical is dominated by these types. Guess I'll stick to cooking and weaving at a fucking loom then, right???(:_(
 
Got farther in Morrowind than I ever have before. Probably because I played the Xbox version originally and would always give up trying to understand half the shit or what I was even supposed to be doing probably because I was young and the only other RPG I had played at the time was KOTOR and Paper Mario. I am really enjoying it but I have to say whoever designed Vivec City and decided to make it a clusterfuck to even get out of deserves a beating. I spent a good 30 minutes just trying to get out because everywhere in it looks the same and my character cannot jump over the railing on the outside despite like 60 Acrobatics.
 
Titos said:
Got farther in Morrowind than I ever have before. Probably because I played the Xbox version originally and would always give up trying to understand half the shit or what I was even supposed to be doing probably because I was young and the only other RPG I had played at the time was KOTOR and Paper Mario. I am really enjoying it but I have to say whoever designed Vivec City and decided to make it a clusterfuck to even get out of deserves a beating. I spent a good 30 minutes just trying to get out because everywhere in it looks the same and my character cannot jump over the railing on the outside despite like 60 Acrobatics.
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vivec is confusing at first, but soon you will get the hang of it
 
BroccoliBrain said:
This is really disheartening to hear. PL I'm interested in working with visual assets professionally. Volunteering for projects such as BS sounded like a good idea for someone self-taught to build a portfolio and I wasn't cynical enough to think it was already infested with current year discord trannies. With two X chromosomes I want no part of that creepy shit and it's dawning on me that anything technical is dominated by these types. Guess I'll stick to cooking and weaving at a fucking loom then, right???(:_(
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you only want something like BS as exposure, and it comes with it's own tripmines. if you apply somewhere it doesn't really matter where your portfolio comes from, just how good it is. and nothing keeps you from doing your own mods or outright unity/unreal stuff (latter has the advantage you're already familiar with part of the pipeline). also reduces the chance your stuff gets stolen or gets drowned out by all the other shit - imagine you're part of fallout frontier, not necessarily something you'd want to advertise.

if you just want to focus on art there's plenty of free stuff done while still getting feedback and works as a portfolio just as well. if you want to make money unreal/unity asset store and others exist too, there's not necessarily a need to go balls deep into gamedev (which depending who you ask sucks anyway).
 
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