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Much like with the FBI's report on the handling of the Clinton Email investigation, I don't care what the mainstream outlets will have to say about the FISA Report. This report is over 400 pages long and not a word of it leaked to the press ahead of time, and on top of that they're all window-licking idiots so I couldn't give half of a rat's ass what they have to say about it. I'm sure that at some point one of them will manage to push out a good article about it, but I want this thread to be a repository and a page-by-page examination of the report and its contents independent from journalistic vomit.

If you need a primer on what exactly FISA surveillance even means, there's an excellent primer for it over here, and the same author also wrote a long article concerning the oddities in Carter Page's FISA warrant over here. In the event that you're just curious about how we got to this point or want an overall history of the entire debacle, there's a summary for all of that over here.

The gist of it is that FISA Title I and Title III surveillance require there be probable cause to believe the proposed target is a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power. They're explicitly designed for foreign spies. These warrants are not supposed to be used against U.S. citizens without a goddamned good reason, and yet that's exactly what happened, and it happened multiple times. It also conveniently just happened to be people in Trump's campaign that were campaign managers who got hit with these FISA warrants, meaning that because of the Three-Hop Rule, the Obama administration was essentially given free reign to spy on literally everyone in Trump's campaign, including Trump himself.

If you were wondering why Horowitz' investigation had to dip so far back to the point where it completely predated all of the Russiagate crap then congratulations, you're asking yourself a smart question. It all had to be rewound to the very beginning because at the very start of this, the entire Trump-Russia collusion narrative was predicated on a hoax, and then everything that came after that hoax just piled onto the lies. Every breathless second the media screamed about Russian collusion, every politician screaming about impeaching "Trump, the Russian Asset", all of it was built on top of this one, original lie, and without it the entire house of cards just falls to pieces.

The reason that Horowitz dug all the way back into the FISA warrants is because one man proved beyond any shadow of any doubt that these warrants could not have been obtained legally. Mueller's Special Counsel proved beyond a doubt that the entire Trump-Russia collusion story was nothing more than a wild conspiracy theory. There has never been evidence put forward to prove that a word of it was real, and because of that, there clearly was not probable cause to allow for FISA warrants to be obtained against Trump campaign members. Despite what so many people were expecting Mueller to do, the only thing that Mueller's S.C. succeeded at doing was stripping away the cover story for the spying on the Trump campaign.

Whether or not that was intentional is anyone's guess and you're likely never going to be able to prove the Mueller "White hat/Black hat" theory one way or the other anyways, so it's a bit of a moot point. The fact remains that at the very end of his investigation, it was proven that there was no definitive evidence or probable cause to assume that the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia. Now you know why it was Rod Rosenstein's job to give these frantic, desperate bloodhounds the wider and ever-widening scope they kept asking of him. At the end of this, when Mueller himself was going to be forced to admit he couldn't find any evidence, it was game over for the Collusion Narrative.

Thank you, Robert Mueller.

The only real questions left are as to how the Steele Dossier (Remember that one? It's been awhile.) wound up being shoved ass-first into these FISA warrants even though the Steele Dossier was a remarkably flawed piece of opposition research, and how the FISA warrants were renewed four times in the absence of any legitimate evidence. I'm expecting to hear quite a bit about Rudolph Contreras and the FISC court somewhere in this report, because there were a lot of questions surrounding that whole mess that are in desperate need of an answer.

Either way, I don't want to write a preamble longer than the fucking report itself, so let's see how idiotic our government was with the FISA warrants.
 
Baptise me in machine oil and cleanse me of ignorance. Now is the time of reckoning, the peal of the trumpets announce the breaking of the seal.

I am ready, I've been waiting weeks for this. I can hardly stand not being able to do a deep read right now.
 
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what kind of timeline are we in where kiwifarms is the place to get rational discussion over world news

Unfortunately, a clown world where the world news is completely controlled, manufactured, bought and paid for by the media left. This IS truly the only place I've seen rational discussion of events and not hysterical reeeeEEEEEEEING at each other.

Good job, Farmers! :winner:

I am hoping this report dick slaps a lot of the bad actors involved in this FISA abuse right in the face. And leaves a mark.
 
I know the world is not nearly so convenient, but I was really hoping the report would come with a pithy abstract that can boil all this down to something the common man can digest. Only a few pages in though, and the tone of this sentence alone is all I needed to hear:
Our review found that FBI personnel fell far short of the requirement in FBI policy that they ensure that all factual statements in a FISA application are "scrupulously accurate." (pg.viii)
 
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So right out of the gate they're laying out the Steele Dossier as being the only form of evidence that was procured for the launch of Crossfire Hurricane. They're not saying it outright, but that's the only bit of information I can think of off the top of my head that would apply in that paragraph, and then they go on to make sure that everyone understands that there needs to be an actual, legitimate purpose associated with the investigation.

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I also find it very interesting that apparently at no point during the opening of Crossfire Hurricane did the FBI see fit to inform any other departments of the pending investigation. So far it's looking as though it all kicked off under Strzok/Comey/McCabe without any outside input from any other departments involved. I can't say that I'm surprised.

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We're only six pages in and they're already starting to draw attention to how flimsy the Steele Dossier was as a legitimate piece of evidence, and how the investigation's team completely failed to inform the FISC of the conflicting or inaccurate information in the dossier.
 
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Oh would you look at that, it's official now. Even though the FBI cut Steele loose because he "valued his employers more than the FBI", they still continued to make use of him through the Ohrs. It's been a long time since we heard a peep from Nellie and Bruce Ohr. I look forward to seeing them popping up in this report.

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Oh, really? The heavily Democrat-aligned opposition research firm only wanted this research for politically-motivated purposes? You don't fucking say.

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The FBI apparently was also not the slightest bit interested in who was actually funding Steele's reporting. Given that all of his funding was coming from Fusion GPS--an incredibly biased source--you would think that would be important. Somehow, they weren't curious.
 
I give it ten to one odds that despite all this information saying the FBI fucked up, the report will say they couldn't find it was the result of political bias.

Without that explicit statemen that political bias played a part, all of this is useless.
You're virtually never going to come across evidence where-in someone says, "I'm going to botch this entire investigation purely because I hate Trump." It would be an absolutely golden piece of evidence, but that's never going to happen. Political biases are still inherent in someone's decisions even if they don't state it outright, though. Just look at all of the shit that got heaped on Strzok and Page and McCabe, right before they wound up getting fired.

They said that none of their decisions were "influenced by political biases" in the last report, too. It didn't stop them from getting shit-canned and now from being shat on in this next report.

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That sure is an awful lot of omitted information, isn't it? Once or maybe even twice I could just shrug it off and go, "Fair enough, they just forgot to include it." When you omit information to your benefit seven times in a row in a way that allows you to go through with exactly what you wanted to happen? Nah, I don't believe it's a mistake anymore. Now it's a pattern.

They were only able to obtain a FISA warrant against Carter Page because they lied their fucking asses off.
 
I give it ten to one odds that despite all this information saying the FBI fucked up, the report will say they couldn't find it was the result of political bias.

Without that explicit statemen that political bias played a part, all of this is useless.
Of course it does. But you can read that yourself.

Heres your summary:
The FBI did a shockingly terrible job. Even more shocking, they're legally allowed to be this terrible. The rules should be changed to make the FBI less terrible.

There was no documentary or testimonial evidence of bias. Aka nobody said "I am explicitly doing this solely out of bias".

I think Horowitz did the best we could expect from a career buerocrat with a limited scope. Durham said that he has more information and disagrees with some of Horowitz's conclusions.

Edit: here's the important question. When will the Dems start sliming Durham? They've already said Barr is just Trump's lackey.
 
You're virtually never going to come across evidence where-in someone says, "I'm going to botch this entire investigation purely because I hate Trump." It would be an absolutely golden piece of evidence, but that's never going to happen. Political biases are still inherent in someone's decisions even if they don't state it outright, though. Just look at all of the shit that got heaped on Strzok and Page and McCabe, right before they wound up getting fired.

They said that none of their decisions were "influenced by political biases" in the last report, too. It didn't stop them from getting shit-canned and now from being shat on in this next report.

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That sure is an awful lot of omitted information, isn't it? Once or maybe even twice I could just shrug it off and go, "Fair enough, they just forgot to include it." When you omit information to your benefit seven times in a row in a way that allows you to go through with exactly what you wanted to happen? Nah, I don't believe it's a mistake anymore. Now it's a pattern.

They were only able to obtain a FISA warrant against Carter Page because they lied their fucking asses off.
Ommited information relevant to the reliability of Person 1... Stele himself told members of the Crossfire Hurricane team that Person 1 was a "boaster" and an "egoist" and "may engage in some embellishment"...
Everything about this passage screams like somebody no self-respecting investigator would touch without a Himalayan mountain's worth of salt, but at the same time I can't help but wonder if Person 1 in question happens to be Trump himself in a domino mask.
 
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